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The Hazards of Belief

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭SebBerkovich


    Screaming Antisemitism on everyone who disagrees with them really undermines any legitimate discourse with Israel about their politics.

    Worse still it lessons the impact of Israels claims against actual Antisemitism.

    Fair play to the school for doing something to help more unfortunate folk.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,219 ✭✭✭maximoose


    For 40 Years, This Russian Family Was Cut Off From All Human Contact, Unaware of World War II
    http://www.smithsonianmag.com/history-archaeology/For-40-Years-This-Russian-Family-Was-Cut-Off-From-Human-Contact-Unaware-of-World-War-II-188843001.html
    A long story - could also be labelled the hazards of totalitarianism.

    A family belonging to a fundamentalist Russian Orthodox sect, worshiping in a style unchanged since the 17th century, fled the purges of the 1930s and lived in the wilderness for 40 years before some Soviet geologists spotted them from a helicopter.

    That is a great story, good find!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,035 ✭✭✭Banbh


    I love the guy commenting on the JP article that wants Israel to ask the Vatican to tell Irish to stop supporting the Palestinians.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,880 ✭✭✭Canis Lupus


    lulz John o Connor was my teacher back before Colaiste days.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    Sort of good news, following on this
    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=82925944&postcount=2995
    (Reuters) - The majority of Timbuktu's ancient manuscripts appear to be safe and undamaged after the Saharan city's 10-month occupation by Islamist rebel fighters, experts said on Wednesday, rejecting some media reports of their widespread destruction.

    Denying accounts that told of tens of thousands of priceless papers being burned or stolen by the fleeing rebels, they said the bulk of the Timbuktu texts had been safely hidden well before the city's liberation by French forces on Sunday.
    http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/01/31/us-mali-rebels-manuscripts-idUSBRE90T0F020130131


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,624 ✭✭✭SebBerkovich


    Thats good news alright, how did the media get it so wrong?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 Hourglass Shrugged


    "Islamophobia" is another nonsensical term thrown about too much. Islam, like all religions, is merely an idea. So if you're labelled an "Islamophobe", another way to put it would be "You're afraid of an idea", or "You're challenging an idea, therefore you should be stopped/censored".

    What makes it even more of a stupid term is that some elements of Islam are about as intolerant as you can get. If you're gay, how can you tolerate something that doesn't wish to tolerates you and advocate your imprisonment or execution? In the "Religion of Peace", it's alright if you're sexist or homophobic, but Islamophobic, that's a big no no.

    Some Imams in Scotland a while back were labeling gay marriage as "Islamophobic" because it contravened Islamic teachings. Nonsense.

    A similar nonsensical term is Christophobia or Christianophobia.

    Next doublethink will become a thought crime.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,626 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    Perhaps Muslimophobic would more accurately describe some people's negative attitudes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 33 Hourglass Shrugged


    Dades wrote: »
    Perhaps Muslimophobic would more accurately describe some people's negative attitudes.

    Not even "Muslimophobia", that's like saying "I fear the person with those ideas". It's like saying "Republicanophobia" or "Socialistophobia".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,540 ✭✭✭joseph brand


    Brazilian Pastor convinced followers his penis contained HOLY MILK.
    “This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of “sacred milk”. This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that “the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit” and, of course, he had to release it in order to “evangelize”. “He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that’s why he would do what he did”. Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation”.

    I don't know how he got away with this. Believers are usually so cynical and certainly not easily fooled.

    They were all waiting for the second coming. :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,775 ✭✭✭✭Gbear


    I suppose there needs to be a distinction made because I have certainly been guilty at times of generalising and being a bit bigoted about muslims based not on their teaching but on the actions of some of their members.

    It's possible to be both anti-islam and not anti-muslims, or at least not anti all muslims.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,745 ✭✭✭✭kylith


    Brazilian Pastor convinced followers his penis contained HOLY MILK.
    “This criminal pastor claimed that the Holy Spirit would secrete from his penis in the form of “sacred milk”. This pastor said that his penis was blessed and that “the Lord had consecrated him with divine milk of the Holy Spirit” and, of course, he had to release it in order to “evangelize”. “He has convinced us that only God could come into our lives through our mouth and that’s why he would do what he did”. Often, after worship, pastor Valdeci would take us to the where the funds were kept at the back of the Church and asked us to have Oral sex with him until the Holy Spirit would come through ejaculation”.


    I don't know how he got away with this. Believers are usually so cynical and certainly not easily fooled.

    They were all waiting for the second coming. :pac:
    Seriously? SERIOUSLY??? People bought this?! Grown adults ACTUALLY BOUGHT THIS???!!!

    I'm sorry, but sometimes there comes a point when people have to be held culpable for their own stupidity.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 7,891 ✭✭✭Calibos


    Makes the communion wafers like pancakes....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    robindch wrote: »

    It leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.

    *gag*


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    kylith wrote: »
    Seriously? SERIOUSLY??? People bought this?! Grown adults ACTUALLY BOUGHT THIS???!!!

    I'm sorry, but sometimes there comes a point when people have to be held culpable for their own stupidity.
    Unfortunately these small groups tend to attract people who might not be all there. They're then taken advantage of. Normally, by being "encouraged" to hand over large sums of money. This is a whole other level of messed up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,438 ✭✭✭TwoShedsJackson


    robindch wrote: »
    It leaves a bitter taste in the mouth.

    Depends how much celery he'd eaten recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Depends how much celery he'd eaten recently.

    :eek:

    NOOO!

    Really????

    :eek:




    hate celery.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Depends how much celery he'd eaten recently.
    Celery? Satan's vegetable.

    I gather asparagus flavors things too. But I may be mixing my fluids at this point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,182 ✭✭✭Genghiz Cohen


    Well, we have gone off topic, haven't we?

    Haven't we?


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  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,626 Mod ✭✭✭✭Dades


    It seems it's a Hazard of Disbelief.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 39,866 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Calibos wrote: »
    Makes the communion wafers like pancakes....

    OK now I've a mental image of the soggy biscuit game with communion wafers. Will take a couple of beers at least to get rid of that. Thanks.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    A waitress in the US was fired after posting a photo of a note she got from a customer refusing to tip to Reddit. It said "I give God 10%, why do you get 18%?". She posted it to r/atheism as she thought it was funny.

    Turns out the customer is a Pastor. She kicked up a fuss and demanded that pretty much everyone that works at the restaurant, including managers, be fired.
    “When I posted this, I didn’t represent Applebee’s in a bad light,” Chelsea explained. “In fact, I didn’t represent them at all. I did my best to protect the identity of all parties involved. I didn’t break any specific guidelines in the company handbook — I checked.”
    “But because this person got embarrassed that their selfishness was made public, Applebee’s has made it clear that they would rather lose a dedicated employee than lose an angry customer. That’s a policy I can’t understand."

    It gets better. I didn't think she meant that she literally gives 10% to God. She donates it to her own, tax-free, church. Hello, tax evasion!
    Reddit user Wintercast Wait wait wait. The pastor has a 15 member church that she runs out of a store front. So, that is tax free. She then gives 10% of her income to her church, which is still her own business (really, lets me serious here). So she is just another piece of scum working the system.

    Edit to add, so she is just giving herself free money in the way she "donates" to her own church. 10% tax right off, church does not pay on those taxes, looks like a way of sheltering income to me.


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 19,485 CMod ✭✭✭✭The Black Oil


    "Islamophobia" is another nonsensical term thrown about too much. Islam, like all religions, is merely an idea. So if you're labelled an "Islamophobe", another way to put it would be "You're afraid of an idea", or "You're challenging an idea, therefore you should be stopped/censored".

    What makes it even more of a stupid term is that some elements of Islam are about as intolerant as you can get. If you're gay, how can you tolerate something that doesn't wish to tolerates you and advocate your imprisonment or execution? In the "Religion of Peace", it's alright if you're sexist or homophobic, but Islamophobic, that's a big no no.

    Some Imams in Scotland a while back were labeling gay marriage as "Islamophobic" because it contravened Islamic teachings. Nonsense.

    A similar nonsensical term is Christophobia or Christianophobia.

    Next doublethink will become a thought crime.

    I don't know, really. I think it's a legitimate term in one sense because there is a lot of hostility towards Islam in sections of the American right, based simply around the fact the religion even exists, as well as some more nutty objections. And I think the post Sept 11th world shows like 24 would have been perhaps a bit guilty of jumping on the 'Muslims = bad, mmkay?' bandwagon. Also look at how much nonsense and paranoia there is about POTUS being Barack Hussein Obama, a sleeper cell terrorist, etc. OK, maybe that's at the fringes, but sometimes it's not seen as unwelcome in the mainstream, Michelle Bachmann, hi, btw. As to the term being used in response to people voicing criticisms about the content of Islam, then yes, that's a bit silly. Same with the term anti-Catholic, though. The way some people throw it around you'd swear most of the churches in the land had been padlocked shut permanently.

    Have never heard of Christianophobia.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,850 ✭✭✭FouxDaFaFa


    A seemingly random "acid attack" carried out by a woman in a niqab in London. The victim, who is 20 and worked in Victoria's Secret (could that possibly be relevant?) has been left partially blind and permanently disfigured.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,522 ✭✭✭✭Gordon


    FouxDaFaFa wrote: »
    A waitress in the US was fired after posting a photo of a note she got from a customer refusing to tip to Reddit. It said "I give God 10%, why do you get 18%?". She posted it to r/atheism as she thought it was funny.

    Turns out the customer is a Pastor. She kicked up a fuss and demanded that pretty much everyone that works at the restaurant, including managers, be fired.



    It gets better. I didn't think she meant that she literally gives 10% to God. She donates it to her own, tax-free, church. Hello, tax evasion!

    Pastor apologises (and pimps books): http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documents/tipping-pastor-apologizes-687234


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 24,473 Mod ✭✭✭✭robindch


    Gordon wrote: »
    Pastor apologises (and pimps books):
    All the woman admitted to was having "brought embarrassment to my church and ministry" - a textbook unpology.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 46,938 ✭✭✭✭Nodin


    I am dissapoint. Very dissapoint.
    Sandwich shop chain Pret A Manger has withdrawn a new "Virgin Mary" brand of crisps following religious complaints.
    The firm, with about 350 shops in the UK, launched the spicy tomato crisps - based on the non-alcoholic version of a Bloody Mary cocktail - last week.
    This prompted complaints, including from Catholic groups, that it was an offensive reference to Jesus's mother.
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21306006

    There are few enough opportunities for somebody my age to get a mouth full of virgin.....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,192 ✭✭✭✭PopePalpatine


    Oh boy, if discrimination means what that bishop thinks it means, then they are certainly discriminating against gays.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,200 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    Oh, and here's one for the ladies: if you use birth control, did you know that your uterus is lined with little dead babies?
    Lovely.

    You are the type of what the age is searching for, and what it is afraid it has found. I am so glad that you have never done anything, never carved a statue, or painted a picture, or produced anything outside of yourself! Life has been your art. You have set yourself to music. Your days are your sonnets.

    ―Oscar Wilde predicting Social Media, in The Picture of Dorian Gray



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