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Tips for the Hayfever Sufferers

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  • Registered Users Posts: 10 tietambrown


    Hayfever has been really bad lately, worst in years. Constant runny nose, eyes itchy and sneezing. I used to only get it a handful of times over a summer, but I've had it nearly every day for 2 or 3 weeks now. Tried cetirizine when it started and it didn't really work at all. Friend gave me a big bottle diphenhydramine 25mg tablets he got in the states last year and they work well for 4/5 hours, but they make me really tired and drowsy unfortunately. Anyone recommend a tablet that doesn't dope you up so much?


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,305 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Hayfever has been really bad lately, worst in years. Constant runny nose, eyes itchy and sneezing. I used to only get it a handful of times over a summer, but I've had it nearly every day for 2 or 3 weeks now. Tried cetirizine when it started and it didn't really work at all. Friend gave me a big bottle diphenhydramine 25mg tablets he got in the states last year and they work well for 4/5 hours, but they make me really tired and drowsy unfortunately. Anyone recommend a tablet that doesn't dope you up so much?

    How long did you take the cetirizine for? It takes a while (up to a few weeks) for it to work optimally.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭deadanonymau5


    I had it real bad for years. Someone said load up on honey, so I have been taking honey for months and the hayfever has been grand nothing like it used to be hardly bothering me at all. I was also told that if your immune system is topped up to maximum levels with vit C that this helps a lot also.

    Its a tough one...

    The old wives tale is using local honey
    I use Beconase nasal spray and I take a cetrizine tablet daily from about mid-May until September. And I use eye drops if needed. They are an effective solution to my hayfever because I take them constantly over a number of months. Not just when the pollen count is high.

    I wouldn't worry too much about the steroid content in nasal sprays, as the dosage is significantly lower than the Kenalog injection. Plus you take it over a long period of time compared to the injection.

    I have tried the 'barrier' type nasal sprays, but I don't like them. They just end up blocking my nose so what's the point!!

    How often do you use Beconase? I read after 3 weeks usage there are negative effects. Cant remember what they were atm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,305 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    How often do you use Beconase? I read after 3 weeks usage there are negative effects. Cant remember what they were atm.

    It's not 3 weeks. The recommendation is not to take it continuously for longer than three months without consulting a doctor.

    The dosage on the packaging is two sprays into each nostril twice a day (morning and evening). But I only take one spray into each nostril twice a day (morning and evening). And I use it from about mid-May to late August/early September (I have consulted a doctor about this). If I am out cycling, running, playing sport on grass, or if the pollen count is really high, I might take a couple of extra sprays. But then there are days when I don't take any dose because I've forgotten or the bottle is empty.

    I know with some nasal sprays such as Sudafed and Vicks Sinex, you are not meant to take it for longer than 7 consecutive days as it may cause rebound congestion (i.e. your nose gets blocked when you stop using it). But that isn't the case with Beconase.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭deadanonymau5


    It's not 3 weeks. The recommendation is not to take it continuously for longer than three months without consulting a doctor.

    The dosage on the packaging is two sprays into each nostril twice a day (morning and evening). But I only take one spray into each nostril twice a day (morning and evening). And I use it from about mid-May to late August/early September (I have consulted a doctor about this). If I am out cycling, running, playing sport on grass, or if the pollen count is really high, I might take a couple of extra sprays. But then there are days when I don't take any dose because I've forgotten or the bottle is empty.

    I know with some nasal sprays such as Sudafed and Vicks Sinex, you are not meant to take it for longer than 7 consecutive days as it may cause rebound congestion (i.e. your nose gets blocked when you stop using it). But that isn't the case with Beconase.

    Sorry, I meant 3 weeks for steroid nasal sprays (Flixonase). Not sure about beconase.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,305 ✭✭✭✭dastardly00


    Sorry, I meant 3 weeks for steroid nasal sprays (Flixonase). Not sure about beconase.

    Beconase is a steroid nasal spray as well. It contains beclometasone dipropionate which is a corticosteroid. Flixonase contains a different corticosteroid.

    Is Flixonase now known as Pirinase in Ireland?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,143 ✭✭✭locum-motion


    ...Is Flixonase now known as Pirinase in Ireland?

    No, still Flixonase.

    Both Beconase and Flixonase were available in a prescription-only one month's supply pack or in an over-the-counter 15 day's supply pack.

    Then their patents ran out, and generic versions of the prescription-only versions became available for a fraction of the price. The generics are called Nasobec and Nasofan respectively.

    Then the original manufacturers discontinued the larger prescription-only packs.

    Upshot of it all:
    1. if you want to buy them OTC, ask for Beconase or Flixonase.
    2. if you want the larger packs, ask your doctor to prescribe Nasobec of Flixonase.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Knine


    Absolutely in bits today. Is there anything new I can try? It is my eyes that are worst affected. I can't even go outside right now. Strongly considering the injection this year. I have tried all the usual


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,293 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    Today's bad alright - had my first sneezing attack on Saturday. On great medication but there are always a few days during the summer when it does little good!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Knine


    Tomorrow's count is to be very high. Dreading it


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭deadanonymau5


    Knine wrote: »
    Absolutely in bits today. Is there anything new I can try? It is my eyes that are worst affected. I can't even go outside right now. Strongly considering the injection this year. I have tried all the usual

    Its too late for the injection IIRC. Mine was bad as well. Try Optrex Actiimist 16E in Boots. Flixonase is good imo.
    ionapaul wrote: »
    Today's bad alright - had my first sneezing attack on Saturday. On great medication but there are always a few days during the summer when it does little good!

    What are you on?


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,293 ✭✭✭ionapaul


    What are you on?

    Wal-Fex, a generic but powerful antihistamine available from Walgreen's in the States. Visit about once a year and stock up a year's worth then. Usually very effective but the pollen is running riot at the moment!


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Knine


    Optrex Actiimist, is that for the eyes?


  • Registered Users Posts: 668 ✭✭✭Coopaloop


    I'm taking flixonase spray first thing in morning, plus piriton, I like piriton as you can take them every 4 hours or so. I find the once a day tablets just wear off.
    Eyes very bad today too. I get the optrix pollen drops and to sooth my eyes I just get water wipes a gently dab my eyes with them, really cools them down,especially if you keep the pack in the fridge. It help a bit anyway.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭deadanonymau5


    Knine wrote: »
    Optrex Actiimist, is that for the eyes?

    Yeah spray on the eye lids. Works for me as Im shi* with eye drops. Expensive enough but its available from Boots for 16 beans.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,373 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Knine wrote: »
    Is there anything new I can try?
    I have mentioned the light treatment many times, still working for me.

    http://www.lloydspharmacy.ie/health-und-wellbeing/electrical-health/lloydspharmacy-allergy-reliever

    can be got cheaper elsewhere online.


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Knine


    rubadub wrote: »
    I have mentioned the light treatment many times, still working for me.

    http://www.lloydspharmacy.ie/health-und-wellbeing/electrical-health/lloydspharmacy-allergy-reliever

    can be got cheaper elsewhere online.

    Thanks never actually heard of this. Will give it a try. How exactly does this work?

    The spray for the eyelids sounds great, my daughter also suffers with it & no chance of getting drops near her.


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,373 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Knine wrote: »
    Thanks never actually heard of this. Will give it a try. How exactly does this work?.
    If shines a light up your nose and the wavelength of the light causes some effect on histamines. I am very skeptical in general but it worked for me, there are loads of studies done on it too. I know others who have used them with success.

    It would be ideal for kids too as its not a drug and you cannot really overdose on it.

    this is a similar device, they used to cost a lot more.



    This is the one I have, if you spend over £25 post should be free
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kinetik-Medical-AR1-Allergy-Reliever/dp/B004MZMYPS/ref=sr_1_23_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1466620024&sr=8-23&keywords=allergy+light


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,875 ✭✭✭deadanonymau5


    rubadub wrote: »
    If shines a light up your nose and the wavelength of the light causes some effect on histamines. I am very skeptical in general but it worked for me, there are loads of studies done on it too. I know others who have used them with success.

    It would be ideal for kids too as its not a drug and you cannot really overdose on it.

    this is a similar device, they used to cost a lot more.



    This is the one I have, if you spend over £25 post should be free
    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Kinetik-Medical-AR1-Allergy-Reliever/dp/B004MZMYPS/ref=sr_1_23_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1466620024&sr=8-23&keywords=allergy+light


    Thanks for the link. I was having trouble with the Paypal/Lloyds Pharmacy :mad:


  • Registered Users Posts: 32,373 ✭✭✭✭rubadub


    Thanks for the link. I was having trouble with the Paypal/Lloyds Pharmacy :mad:
    there are lloyds pharmacies in Ireland nowadays. Argos used to even stock these devices but I see none now. Not sure if the regular lloyds stores have them but here is a list
    stores have them but here is a list

    http://www.lloydspharmacy.ie/customer-service/store-locator

    of course they might be in other pharmacies but make sure not to pay over the odds.

    some devices allow you to buy spare LED light things, so 2 people can use the base unit and have separate nose devices.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,761 ✭✭✭Knine


    Thank you, definitely gonna give this a try.


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