Getting stomped at first oblivion gate.

Winning Hand

Hey all, recently started playing this game as thief with a focus on archery and one handed weapons. Am currently at level two after going through the dungeon place immediatly opposite the sewers you come out of. Anyway I went to the monastery immediatly afterwards and then to the first oblivion gate. Needless to say i am getting my ass handed to me every step of the way. Takes about 2 minutes to kill one of those little feckers so by the time i entered the castle i was out of arrows. Once in the castle i am dead in the space of a minute.

Am I doing something majorly wrong here? Should i leave the gate and level up before going back? Or is the game just this tough

Kiith

i think i was level 4 when i went through the first gate, after having levelled my blade and magic skills up a bit. it wasnt too bad then. just run around and find a few dungeons before going to kvatch. you should be grand then.

chamlis

Well leveling up would be a good idea. But for oblivion itself, it is a fire type place, so fire resistance and cold offensive spells/weapon enchants would be your friend. Sneak where possible, as you're a thief your skill should be alright, and snipe from a distance with your archery. If you get a sneak attack there is a bonus multiplier too.

ShiverinEskimo

It might be an idea to do a few side quests - especially the arena to build up some combat skills. also - as your a thief go steal stuff and sell it and then find a trainer and pay them to level you up on some combat stuff - blade, armour, marksman etc. I made the mistake of not knowing about trainers til late on - I'd have leveled much quicker with them.

funky penguin

As said already, use sneak. I'm a thief aswell and I only use bow as a weapon. I can't count the amount of areas/missions i've bean through without actually killing anyone.

If you have to kill, do it from far away (zoom comes in handy later) and beside a pillar or some solid structure in the dark. Fire, then duck behind the structure. Most of the time, the enemy will not see you.

Repeat a couple of times, or maybe change location if they begin searching the area your in (and they usually will). This way, you will consistantly get your sneak attack bonus. If they see you, run and hide. This is my method of attacking and its so effective, I'm on level 20 and my light armour is level 45, while every thing else is about 80 or so.

Anyway, main thing to remember, Sneak is your friend.

Of course, there is no shame in turning the difficulty down a tad. The meter is VERY sensitive.

Duras

I think I was level 6 when I did this mission. It was very difficult for my character to do it still, I got all the allies killed and I barely finished it.

Zillah

funky penguin wrote:

As said already, use sneak. I'm a thief aswell and I only use bow as a weapon. I can't count the amount of areas/missions i've bean through without actually killing anyone.

Rofl. See, thats the difference between a thief and a ninja. You left no one dead, I left no one alive...

funky penguin

Being a thief is hard.

We're branded evil, but we're kicked out of the guild if we kill anyone.

tba

you are evil...

Us Spellswords would never steal....

On a non role playing note being a thief is supposed to be hard because of the fringe benfits from developed skills.

superfly

i'm only level two battlemage and i've just found a nice magic totem which kills goblins with one strike
are these common around the place?

funky penguin

Did you get that in a side quest involving warring goblin factions?

superfly

no i just found it in a cave with a lot of goblins protecting it
actually i found 2, maybe i'll get it as a quest later on and i've already done it

Vodka Junkie

Don't leave it too late. I left that first quest til level 15 or 16 as I like to do eveything else first, in the castle I had to face off against 5 daedroths and 2 clannfears AT THE SAME TIME!!! thank god for inaccessable crevices and fireballs is all I can say.

superfly

ignore this

Vodka Junkie

superfly wrote:

ignore this

that battle took me a half hour while hidoing up by the gate lever. Preobly only survived coz they all tried to rush up at once and got in each others way most of the time. The pile of corpses at the end was worth it though

Vegeta

Vodka Junkie wrote:

that battle took me a half hour while hidoing up by the gate lever. Preobly only survived coz they all tried to rush up at once and got in each others way most of the time. The pile of corpses at the end was worth it though

Yeah level a bit but don't be crazy and wait til you'relike level twenty as the enemies will also have scaled and it will be tough but do-able

superfly

whats the story with levelling as i have about 20 hours up on the game but i'm only at level 3 whereas a guy who only started playing it yesterday as a Mage is at level 8 already?

Tar.Aldarion

Depends on what you do. You could jump around and sneak a lot to get points up fast etc. It just depends on how you play. I started yesterday, level one.
Go on the woodelfs!(I'm a sexy one at that)

tba

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Go on the woodelfs!(I'm a sexy one at that)

Most wood elves in the game appear to be crazy....

Tar.Aldarion

I'm a welcome addition to them then. I'm ****ing people over. \o/

I thought your PC would not run it?

funky penguin

He moochs off my one.

Tar.Aldarion

So he said.
I hope you get sechks fot that, mmm incest sechks, the best kind.

funky penguin

You know it.

But I also like the insect sechks, mind.

Tar.Aldarion

Man the first gate is a bitch. Ther at level eleven. Fighting four clannfears and several mages/scamps at the same time!
I have to stand back and let martin pulverise all. Basically, I run in circles screaming.

Vodka Junkie

Tar.Aldarion wrote:

Man the first gate is a bitch. Ther at level eleven. Fighting four clannfears and several mages/scamps at the same time!
I have to stand back and let martin pulverise all. Basically, I run in circles screaming.

Ahh Martin, Bless his immortal heart.

funky penguin

Martin in first gate...?

Wha..?

tba

The dope that keeps running into the lava on me...

funky penguin

Thats not martin!

Martin's the emperors heir....

Tar.Aldarion

Ya, I brought martin to the first gate, he did all the work. Then I brought him round the map for a few days, killing things.
so...immortal.

funky penguin

Really? You brought him round to tha ma? Lucky woman!

Tar.Aldarion

What! Where are my false teeth?!



I just serenaded you In TCN, less mamma jokes!

funky penguin

*checks*

Man..thats too cool! I saw the ...sheep bit!

But my favourite is "philosimuphy". Poetry in motion!

Tar.Aldarion

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.....philosimuphy?

:P

Cuddlesworth

Hi hate to bring up an old thread but I just completed this mission at lvl2 for my mage. Now when I remove the stone and go get the guards at the front to clear out the city so the Emperors son will go with me, the head guy runs off and the other two guards attack and slaughter me. Is this supposed to happen. I'v been trying to kill them for 3 hours. When I finally did, just before the second guard died some other one saw me and killed me. Wtf is going on in this ****y game? Is everybody going to try to kill me?

Roen

Probably for your constant stream of CSS tk's Krazy. It's amazing how silicon dudes have formed a union and gone out on sympathy strike. Ah well evolution for ya

Duras

Did anyone close other Obllivion gate except this first one?

Roen

Duras wrote:

Did anyone close other Obllivion gate except this first one?

I've done about a dozen now, some of them are neccessary to advance the plot and some of them I do just to get the sigil stones so I can make stupidly named swords.

Roen

krazy_8s wrote:

Hi hate to bring up an old thread but I just completed this mission at lvl2 for my mage. Now when I remove the stone and go get the guards at the front to clear out the city so the Emperors son will go with me, the head guy runs off and the other two guards attack and slaughter me. Is this supposed to happen. I'v been trying to kill them for 3 hours. When I finally did, just before the second guard died some other one saw me and killed me. Wtf is going on in this ****y game? Is everybody going to try to kill me?

When I did this quest I managed to kill one of the guards by accident. This wasn't spotted by the rest of them so it wasn't a problem. Could it be that you've committed some crime somewhere or murdered someone and you've been found out? Check your Fame V's Infamy rating, if your Infamy is higher chances are you've been a bad boy and the guards are reacting to this.

Cuddlesworth

My fame is slightly higher, and the submit thing I was told to do isnt working. I think I will go back to Css.

Roen

Looks like you'll have to revert to a previous save unfortunately.

Cuddlesworth

Do you know how long it takes to do that oblivion gate at lvl2? Not a chance im doing that againn.

funky penguin

Have you tried yielding to them?

While blocking, press the interact button.

Cuddlesworth

Didnt work so I ran away from them and am off doing other things now. Also I was lvl 1 not 2 since I didnt know what sleeping was.

Vegeta

Check your bounty, that is the first indication that you have committed a crime

funky penguin

Try putting the difficulty down to zero, kick their asses, then put it back to normal.

Vegeta

funky penguin wrote:

Try putting the difficulty down to zero, kick their asses, then put it back to normal.

good call, never even thought of that