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Engine trouble

  • 04-05-2006 4:28pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭


    I tryed to start my engine a while back and it would not start, I assumed it was a problem with the fuel. Then yesterday I noticed there was no compression, I saw wd40 coming out from the edge of the piston and down the slieve. Thats a no no:(
    Then I stripped my engine down and removed the piston and slieve to check if there was a tight seal between the pair but their wasnt:eek: I put the piston in the slieve and put it into the light and I could see light coming through the sides, I was gutted so I read the manual and it said the slieve and piston expands when the engine is hot, but how can it expand when I can,t start it.
    Does anyone have any idea what to do? Any help appreciated:)


Comments

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭goldwing


    would you not replace the piston and the slieve?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    Piston and slieve=E70
    New engine=E130
    I think it would be better in the long run to get the engine.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Plug wrote:
    Piston and slieve=E70
    New engine=E130
    I think it would be better in the long run to get the engine.

    Vectra to the Rescue...!!

    Maybe this could be sorted.. :D

    40 Minutes Left



    I can also get you a brand new trx 2.5r ( Revo engine)
    easier to tune etc.

    €125 plus postage (from Ireland)
    you might even be able to drive to mee this guy.;)

    let me know


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    Plug wrote:
    ... be better in the long run to get the engine.
    But you don't need one.
    Do you need the other parts?

    Remember - until you figure out how not to peen your piston-liner set, you must assume this will happen to all new engines you use.

    But if you have worries about the other engine parts being also worn, then you may be right to replace the lot.

    Seeing it has been run at extreme hot temps, on low lubrication at the same time, you should take a look at your conrod.
    The crankshaft bearing boss in the lower end (of the conrod) may possibly have become oval in shape and a little loose.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    The bearings and conrod are fine, Its just that piston and slieve:mad: Will the slieve expand when it is hot to stop any airleaks:confused: Thanks:)

    Vectra, thanks for that offer (great one to), but i,m on a tight budget........ infact i,m skint:( I,ll have bum some money from the mother, but it,ll be a good while. Thanks again:)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Plug wrote:
    Vectra, thanks for that offer (great one to), but i,m on a tight budget........ infact i,m skint:( I,ll have bum some money from the mother, but it,ll be a good while. Thanks again:)

    Tell her that you will clean her windows for the whole summer if she subsadises (spelling:D ) you for it.
    It come NEW with Carb. complete ezstart etc. ;)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    Plug wrote:
    ..Will the slieve expand when it is hot to stop any airleaks...
    Not enough to get your compression back.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    coolwings wrote:
    Not enough to get your compression back.
    I thought it might as its a very small gap, the only way you can see it is using
    light. What if I baked it in the oven for a while, would it expand then?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭g5hn710m4xpdwy


    may get dmaegged, fuel may go on fire but it probably will expand :)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    All you can do is put extra oil in the fuel to seal the gaps.
    A bit more nitro to raise the compression more.
    Maybe a hotter glowplug to help raise compression too.

    But these tricks won't provide a cure for long. Then it's back to the big "how to fix it" question again.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    I got a news letter in the post from towerhobbies with a E20 discount, so I got the trx2.5r for E90:) Thank fu*k says me as I probably would have nothing to drive in the summer. Thanks for the help and thanks for the offers anyway;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Plug wrote:
    I got a news letter in the post from towerhobbies with a E20 discount, so I got the trx2.5r for E90:)

    Is that Plus delivery?
    what does the whole thing come to and how did you get the discount? :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    vectra wrote:
    Is that Plus delivery?
    what does the whole thing come to and how did you get the discount? :D
    Yeah that E90 includes delivery and I got that discount through the newsletter that comes every month. Here,s the ad number to use 011h9.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭g5hn710m4xpdwy


    very nice - they couldnt of had a better time :p


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    I forgot to say, I also got 2 spur gears with that E90 aswel as the engine:)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,324 ✭✭✭tallus


    that sounds like a good deal


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    My engine came on monday just a week waiting and no vat. Anyway I have screwed on the ez start on the engine, so tight I can only get 1 of the 3 screws out. The allenkey keeps slipping and I cant get at it with a pliers or a vicesripes:confused: Any ideas please, its not nessessery to take them out, its just for future maintanace.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Plug wrote:
    Anyway I have screwed on the ez start on the engine, so tight I can only get 1 of the 3 screws out. The allenkey keeps slipping and I cant get at it with a pliers or a vicesripes:confused: Any ideas please, its not nessessery to take them out, its just for future maintanace.


    Hold on.
    You screwed the screews into which engine?
    The old one or the new one?

    If it is in the old one just drill the heads off them..
    Maybe you could dremel a slot on the heads of them and remove them with a screwdriver?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    Its the new one.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭g5hn710m4xpdwy


    yeah if you can get a dremel and a cutting disc with it, cut a line across the head like a flat head screwdriver, then use the screw driver to unscrew it, make it as deep as you can for more grip


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Flunked wrote:
    make it as deep as you can for more grip


    But not too deep as it would weaken the head of the screw. ;)


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭g5hn710m4xpdwy


    good point, or if its too deep it will cut into the engine :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    I don,t have a dreamel tool:(


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Plug wrote:
    I don,t have a dreamel tool:(

    How about a small hacksaw blade and lots of patience.. :rolleyes:

    OR
    When you have the Allen Key inserted..Gently tap the back of the allen key with a hammer or something solid while keeping it pressed hard into the head of the screw and turning it out at the same time. ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 476 ✭✭no leaf clover


    -IDEA OF THE WEEK-
    put allen key in......squeeze glue in.....let it stick....then turn!!!! or put the allen key in and heat it till it expands, i dont know its s.h.c.
    but hopefully for ya its low!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭g5hn710m4xpdwy


    never thought of that :) good wan


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 3,455 Mod ✭✭✭✭coolwings


    All of the above.
    BUT
    First get yourself a new allen key. the old one is bound to be rounded off by now.
    You need a fresh allen key with sharp, precise edges if you are to have the best chance of shifting that bolt.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,763 ✭✭✭g5hn710m4xpdwy


    the only one i wouldnt recomend is drilling it out, dont ask me why as i cant explain and i am certain you are gonna ask now:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Flunked wrote:
    the only one i wouldnt recomend is drilling it out, dont ask me why as i cant explain and i am certain you are gonna ask now:D


    I can
    you are afraid in case he drills too far and makes a F*KKup:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    vectra wrote:
    I can
    you are afraid in case he drills too far and makes a F*KKup:D
    eh..bad word, I,m going to tell fobia:D Ah no, thanks for the tips I,ll have a shot at them during the week. I,m still waiting to break it in since monday, it is constintly sh!t weather in Kilkenny:mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Plug wrote:
    it is constintly sh!t weather in Kilkenny:mad:

    Now I'mTelling Fobia :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    I,m sorry:( ;)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭Fobia


    You...you do all realise that I read every post here, right? :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    uh oh:o


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,626 ✭✭✭✭vectra


    Fobia wrote:
    You...you do all realise that I read every post here, right? :)

    Sorry boss.. :D


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,467 ✭✭✭bushy...


    ...couple of ways to help get out an allen-key type bolt that might be handy to ye (may not be of much use on tiny sizes and you need to be careful ) , either put key into the bolt then get a centre punch and put 6 punch marks on the bolt on the top of the head opposite each "flat" about halfway between the outer edge of the bolt and the outer of the hole in the centre
    ...other way is get a spline/torx bit a tiny bit larger than the hex hole and tap it into the hole , it should grip it well enough to remove the bolt ( don't tap too hard you'll damage something)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,324 ✭✭✭tallus


    Fobia wrote:
    You...you do all realise that I read every post here, right? :)
    Big brother is watching :D
    Can you effect weather changes Fobia? we need dry weather !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,958 ✭✭✭Fobia


    tallus wrote:
    Big brother is watching :D
    Can you effect weather changes Fobia? we need dry weather !

    Hehe, not big brother, just, I'm not gonna miss stuff. ;)

    And of course I can, I just happen to love gale force winds and lashing rain, it makes me happy. :p

    I mean, back on topic!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,324 ✭✭✭tallus


    Fobia wrote:
    Hehe, not big brother, just, I'm not gonna miss stuff. ;)

    And of course I can, I just happen to love gale force winds and lashing rain, it makes me happy. :p

    I mean, back on topic!
    Damn you and your Gale force winds !!!:D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    I blame RTE for the bad weather:mad:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,324 ✭✭✭tallus


    I blame them for everything else too !


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    Exactly;) The only good thing ever to come from RTE were podge and rodge!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,324 ✭✭✭tallus


    and reelin' in the years is ok.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    I finally got the engine broke in, it ran perfect with no hicup's:) I let the engine cool down at one stage, then I primed it and it started with no glow igniter:confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,324 ✭✭✭tallus


    weather is to be good for the rest of the week :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,248 ✭✭✭Plug


    Thank fu(k for that then, we're going bashing later:D


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