Immoral Holiday Sex?

LegacyUser

Hi.

I'm a regular Boards user but went unregged for this.

My friends and I have planned a sun holiday at the end of June/ start of July. It's a guys holiday, so it could be pretty crazy.

One thing that is on my mind lately is the eagerness of my friends to have sex with girls there that will be celebrating finishing their Leaving Cert. They claim that they're going to try and "ride a load of them", planning on us having a league table of the amount of LC girls we score with, and having a prize for first place.

Don't get me wrong, I have no prob at all with casual sex, but I feel there is something wrong with guys that are 23 or 24, who are finished University and in full-time employment, scoring with girls that are just finished secondary school.

So do ye feel it's a little immoral or just part of the holiday fun?

Oryx

UnregHolGuy wrote:

They claim that they're going to try and "ride a load of them", planning on us having a league table of the amount of LC girls we score with, and having a prize for first place.

I think its pretty awful. Calculating and deliberate. Without even getting into the whole STD problem... But hey, if theres girls out there who are up for it, who am I to judge? Possibly theyre out to see how many college graduates they can score But in answer to your question, it would be way off my moral radar.

uncle ernie

UnregHolGuy wrote:

Hi.

planning on us having a league table of the amount of LC girls we score with, and having a prize for first place.

What they should do is have a table of who got the girl with the highest points in the leaving, the rationale being that these more intelligent girls would have been more difficult to bull**** into bed. Not that im condoning this sort of thing

Asiaprod

UnregHolGuy wrote:

planning on us having a league table of the amount of LC girls we score with, and having a prize for first place.

How pathetic. This is one of those occasions that makes me feel ashamed of being a man. What is the prize?, a months free supply of condoms! Sound like a worthy prize for a bunch of idiots. So much for respect. Oh well, reap what you sow.

randomname

Asiaprod wrote:

How pathetic. This is one of those occasions that makes me feel ashamed of being a man. What is the prize?, a months free supply of condoms! Sound like a worthy prize for a bunch of idiots. So much for respect. Oh well, reap what you sow.

I think the prize is several STDs.

Beruthiel

UnregHolGuy wrote:

but I feel there is something wrong with guys that are 23 or 24, who are finished University and in full-time employment, scoring with girls that are just finished secondary school.

24 going on 5 then..
perhaps when they grow up they might be able to find a woman instead of going after kids.
I'm sure this kind of thing goes on all the time, but that doesn't make it any less sad or pathetic.
I hope you at least have the balls to opt out of the league table :rolleyes:

Tar.Aldarion

Beruthiel wrote:

24 going on 5 then..
perhaps when they grow up they might be able to find a woman instead of going after kids.
I'm sure this kind of thing goes on all the time, but that doesn't make it any less sad or pathetic.
I hope you at least have the balls to opt out of the league table :rolleyes:

...and into some girl.

Anyway, Tbh, they sound like idiots. To be going and aiming for sex is fine with me, age doesn't matter too much although it wouldn't be my scene.
The league table is just ridiculous. Watching too much of that **** sky one show where they have a sex table...
The table expressed above is funny, comparing the LC points too.

DOLEMAN

I would agree that the age factor is a problem. 17 year olds are still kids (although they don't think that themselves of course )

If they were only going to be sleeping with girls their own age, well then, that's their own business and not up to us to judge!

However, something makes me think your friends will all return to Ireland still virgins

See my age thread in AH and give an opinion
IMO its ok if the girl is over 18:D

Zombrex

UnregHolGuy wrote:

Don't get me wrong, I have no prob at all with casual sex, but I feel there is something wrong with guys that are 23 or 24, who are finished University and in full-time employment, scoring with girls that are just finished secondary school.

Yeah it does sound a bit dodgy, as well as being rather pathetic. They seem a bit old to be so desperate for a shag that they pick on drunk naieve secondary school girls. I would tell your friends to grow up.

Mimikyu

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armitage_skanks

I fall into that age group. If one of my mates came out with something like that, the rest of us would probably give him a good hiding, some of us would have sisters that age. Deliberately targeting drunk schoolgirls when you should have more sense than that is pretty disgusting.

Youre mates sound like idiots.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

It's called "being Irsih". Grow up.

The_B_Man

sorry, whats the problem?

OfflerCrocGod

Ditto what The_B_Man said.

Jonny Arson

tbh OP, if shagging drunk school leavers isn't your idea of a holiday then would you not consider not going on the holiday? It's inevitable that you'll come under considerable pressure to conform to their ways.

Your mates sound like complete lowlifes anyway that they have to prey on drunk teenagers in order to get some action. You'd expect that from 18-20 year olds but from 23/24 year old blokes with degrees and full-time jobs? Yes actually, they are lowlifes.

I'd happily bet that not one of them will get any action anyway as they sound that pathetic!

The_B_Man

yes, its a well known fact that once u get a degree and a fullk time job u are not allowed have one night stands! every girl u meet, u must go through a full and complete courting process, culminating in asking their father for the hand of their beloved daughter.

stop being naive. this is what all fellas are like, regardless of age or educational qualifications. at the risk of sounding childish - if u think what these fellas are doin is wrong, then you probably cant get a girl yourself.

sex is good. whats wrong with wanting to get as much of it as you can?

um7y1h83ge06nx

The_B_Man wrote:

sex is good. whats wrong with wanting to get as much of it as you can?

True, true. In the end of the day it's all okay as long as the other person is willing and is of legal age.

And come on, i'm sure a lot of people that posted already wouldn't mind having some fit, nubile 18 year old that's gagging for, despite what they say.

In the end of the day, it's your choice what you do, but I know what (or who) I would be doing.

HappyCrackHead

The_B_Man wrote:

yes, its a well known fact that once u get a degree and a fullk time job u are not allowed have one night stands! every girl u meet, u must go through a full and complete courting process, culminating in asking their father for the hand of their beloved daughter.

stop being naive. this is what all fellas are like, regardless of age or educational qualifications. at the risk of sounding childish - if u think what these fellas are doin is wrong, then you probably cant get a girl yourself.

sex is good. whats wrong with wanting to get as much of it as you can?

i think your missing the point. sure go have sex with as many people as you want and more power to u. but if ur 24 and having sex with a 17 year old, that should raise eyebrows. especially if she's pished out of her head and you and ur mates "planned" this.

cant u see the lack of morallity there?

One thing i notice is, cant these guys find girls closer to their own age?

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

The_B_Man wrote:

stop being naive. this is what all fellas are like, regardless of age or educational qualifications. at the risk of sounding childish - if u think what these fellas are doin is wrong, then you probably cant get a girl yourself.

sex is good. whats wrong with wanting to get as much of it as you can?

We are....? ****ing hell, something wrong with me then. Don't get me wrong, I like sex as much as anyone else, but not with the first pissed 18yo with God knows what down below, in a Spanish alleyway.

Maybe it's the fact that I have the strength to stand up and be mature rather than a sheep.

Surely, thinking that these fellas are RIGHT is the sign of not being able to get a girl yourself? Although it could all boil down to what you actually want a girl for and how much of a 'challenge' rather than some sort of hassle.

If it's just an easy shag you want, pay for it. Or buy a doll...

LegacyUser

1. They're Irish so they're more then likely talking complete utter ****e. Irish people do that, we talk complete utter rubbish all the time.

2. Going on a shagging holiday is fine, may they all score till they're sick of it. The league table is just a stupid idea which i bet you is just bull**** talk.

Zombrex

The_B_Man wrote:

yes, its a well known fact that once u get a degree and a fullk time job u are not allowed have one night stands! every girl u meet, u must go through a full and complete courting process, culminating in asking their father for the hand of their beloved daughter.

No, they are just expected to be mature enough not to going holiday so they can trying to sleep with drunk secondary school girls just so they can boost to their mates about how they can shag drunk secondary school girls ... anyone think that is unreasonable?

It sounds pathetic to me, it would sound a pathetic thing for a 17 year old to be doing, but you could put that down to geniune immaturity. But someone in their mid-20s? Thats just sad. They are probably trying to score secondary school girls because they are the naieve and stupid enought to let them, where as girls their own age aren't going near them.

The_B_Man wrote:

stop being naive. this is what all fellas are like, regardless of age or educational qualifications. at the risk of sounding childish - if u think what these fellas are doin is wrong, then you probably cant get a girl yourself.

You're right it makes you sound childish ... well not childish, more like a college kid who thinks he knows everything about everything but really knows f**k all about anything

But I could be wrong :rolleyes:

I would say that if your experience with men is that all "fellas" are like that you might want to question what guys you hang around with. Because if all your mates are in their mid to late 20s but go on holiday just so they can score 17 year olds I think they might have serious emotional problems.

Jonny Arson

The_B_Man wrote:

stop being naive. this is what all fellas are like, regardless of age or educational qualifications. at the risk of sounding childish - if u think what these fellas are doin is wrong, then you probably cant get a girl yourself.

sex is good. whats wrong with wanting to get as much of it as you can?

- showing a total lack of respect for women
- preying on girls for a shag on the sole basis that they'll be more vulnerable since they'll be ''pissshed'' of their heads on holiday
- aiming to ''shag'' girls only from a specific age group
- aiming to have multiple sexual partners in a short time period (have you ever heard of STDs?)
- drawing up a ****ing league table for **** sake

Sorry those blokes are absolute lowlifes and what they plan to do is wrong. Even if they don't go ahead with their ''plan'' it still shows what pathetic individuals they are. They have no cop on, they are obviously sexually starved which shows their lack of ability towards the opposite sex... these blokes have issues end of.

The_Minister

Where are you going, I might join you.
(joking)


I think its all that American tv stuff making league tables and stuff. (Will it be one point per girl or will they be marked on hotness?) Whatever way you do it its just stealing from tv. A gentlemen never boasts. All your friends will know how many you scored and do the maths in their heads. That way you get to win and keep your dignity.


PS. If you're going for excited girls, do it. If you just want drunken ones then you will just have to decide yourself.

The_B_Man

so everyone here whos gone away to spain or canaries or wherever has gone, not for the drinkin and women, but for the sites? get real. even RTE had a big report on how Leaving Cert Students go over to get shagged silly! its known. the blokes in question could easily be forgiven for thinkin "oh, hot 18 year old females lookin for a shag. sounds good to me!". plus, u have a better chance of meeting a girl with a hot body if shes 18 than if shes older. can u not see that a higher proportion of these girls are hotter than women in their mid twenties? they're more fun also, and have less hang-ups. just all round better. everyone who goes over is aware of these leaving cert students. those girls are gonna get shagged either way.

Faith

Sounds like your friends have been reading too much Ross O' Carroll Kelly tbh. They must have pretty low standards too!

Jonny Arson

The_B_Man wrote:

so everyone here whos gone away to spain or canaries or wherever has gone, not for the drinkin and women, but for the sites? get real. even RTE had a big report on how Leaving Cert Students go over to get shagged silly! its known. the blokes in question could easily be forgiven for thinkin "oh, hot 18 year old females lookin for a shag. sounds good to me!". plus, u have a better chance of meeting a girl with a hot body if shes 18 than if shes older. can u not see that a higher proportion of these girls are hotter than women in their mid twenties? they're more fun also, and have less hang-ups. just all round better. everyone who goes over is aware of these leaving cert students. those girls are gonna get shagged either way.

The last sentence in your post is a tone behind this thread that has not been discussed as of yet but for which I've no doubt is a concern to the people who have posted here about the OP's friends attitudes towards women.

honru

Jaysus B_Man, are you one of these lads?

UnregHolGuy wrote:

They claim that they're going to try and "ride a load of them", planning on us having a league table of the amount of LC girls we score with, and having a prize for first place.

That's pretty fucking funny.

Honestly, they can do what they like, as long as they're not doing anything illegal.

But really... a league table?

Hilarious.

The_B_Man

The_B_Man wrote:

those girls are gonna get shagged either way.

I very, very much hope you are talking about with full consent.


I'm with zane - these guys are morons. To be frank.
There's nothing wrong with being out and seeing someone hot you want to take to bed.
Planning before you go on a holiday to take advantage of barely legal completely wasted girls several years your junior and make a competition out of it is pathetic, to say the least.
Talk about not being able to get laid normally :rolleyes:

simu

Whether this behaviour can be deemed immoral or not depends very much on a person's own system of morality so only you can answer the question, really. The fact that you asked it in the first place suggests that it doesn't quite fit in with your morals, though.

Zombrex

The_B_Man wrote:

so everyone here whos gone away to spain or canaries or wherever has gone, not for the drinkin and women, but for the sites? get real. even RTE had a big report on how Leaving Cert Students go over to get shagged silly! its known. the blokes in question could easily be forgiven for thinkin "oh, hot 18 year old females lookin for a shag. sounds good to me!". plus, u have a better chance of meeting a girl with a hot body if shes 18 than if shes older. can u not see that a higher proportion of these girls are hotter than women in their mid twenties? they're more fun also, and have less hang-ups. just all round better. everyone who goes over is aware of these leaving cert students. those girls are gonna get shagged either way.

Sure why stop there B_Man, why aren't these 26 year old men targetting the 15/16 years olds who have just completed their Junior Cert ... I'm sure they have even hotter bodies than the 17/18 year olds who have just done their Leaving Cert

Seriously how old are you?

The_B_Man

15/16 yr olds wont be in spain or whereever
15/16 yr olds havent got fully developed bodies
15/16 yr olds are idiots
15/16 yr olds wont go all the way
15/16 yr olds are off limits coz some law person said so
15/16 yr olds are also off limits coz society says so

<--- note the smiley

Fanny Cradock

Wicknight wrote:

Seriously how old are you?

i'd guess about 23, but with the maturity of a 17 year old.

melekalikimaka

how have people not heard of this, people go away every year i know with these sort of plans, 3 a4 pages on differnt points
ie. if you wear 'the glove of love during sex'( a gloves passed around the guys), if they speak english -1 point, don't kiss them +4, if they make breakfast for the house the next moring +10 and the dreaded minus 15 for a COCKBLOCK(ruin a guys chance of bedding in anyway)

Agent Smith

If you dont want to partisapate, then dont, theres nobody with a gun to your head saying " shag this Girl" is there?

melekalikimaka

agent smith wrote:

If you dont want to partisapate, then dont, theres nobody with a gun to your head saying " shag this Girl" is there?

if you go over 2 weeks there pretty much is...

The_B_Man

Fanny Cradock wrote:

i'd guess about 23, but with the maturity of a 17 year old.

most likely. but what u call maturity, i'd probably call a mix between lack of a sense of humour and bein uptight.

the point in question here is that everyone is sayin that its wrong for fellas to go over on holiday with the intention of having sex with hot girls! fact is, everyone goes over with the intention of gettin a ride! we'll have the pedants on here sayin that "not everyone does" so fine, lets say 90%. thats not 90% of fellas, thats 90% of people. it may shock and amaze you but females like a bitta sex too!!

also, people are sayin "omfg they're targetin a specific type of girl". YEAH! THEY'RE TARGETING HOT GIRLS!!! whats gona hbappen is, they;re gona go overon their holiday they've paid lots for, they're gonna have fun, they're gonna joke about it, and YES, they're gonna try get sex! QUICK, SOMEONE CALL THE POLICE!!!

The_B_Man

The_B_Man wrote:

YEAH! THEY'RE TARGETING HOT GIRLS!!!

No, they're targetting vulnerable girls. I doubt that they'd give a damn how hot they were if they were easy to get into bed.

melekalikimaka

bluewolf wrote:

No, they're targetting vulnerable girls. I doubt that they'd give a damn how hot they were if they were easy to get into bed.

no no, you lose points if ya tap the 'minger keg'... unless...well there are clauses for certain girls and certain acts

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

He's a culchie living in Tallaght. Says it all really....

so everyone here whos gone away to spain or canaries or wherever has gone, not for the drinkin and women, but for the sites? get real. even RTE had a big report on how Leaving Cert Students go over to get shagged silly!

The question is: has EVERYONE upon finishing the leaving gotten on the first plane to wherever and shagged everything available...? Or just the immature few (who's reasons for going aren't really in doubt)

And, in this RTE report you swear by, did they condone or condemn it?

The_B_Man

ye its aceceptable if she has a nice body ie if shes a butterface. then u get bonus points for using a "sex bag". also, fat chicks are unacceptable unless they cook breakfast or buy u or ur mates a drink.

hey bluewolf, vulnerable? the girls go over lookin for sex! how many times do ppl need to type it on here! vulenrable would be if they dont want any form of sex and go over wit ha mental chastity belt on. thats not whats goin on here! they are "targeting" the girls who are goin over lookin for sex! not the vulnerable ones! the ones looking for sex, just like all the fellas goin over there too! this stuff happens.

ikky_poo: so ur slaggin me coz im a culchie livin in tallght? ur sayin that coz im a culchie livin in tallaght then im expected to have these views? by the way, coláiste means college! im in college in the "country".

ps i highlighted the RTE report to show that this stuff in known. and it IS known. like i said, it happens! women have more power than u think when it comes to having sex!

melekalikimaka

hahaha butterface

you in ucd engineering by anychance, 3rd year?

this thing is common practice, don't be so nieve thinking its just a 'stupid few' and there is nothing wrong with it, better to be orcrastrated then random, safer that way

Fanny Cradock

The_B_Man wrote:

most likely. but what u call maturity, i'd probably call a mix between lack of a sense of humour and bein uptight.

good man, you can tell this from one sentence! though your right you know. when i think about it, it IS humorous to draw up league tables. ho ho!


minus 1 point for ginger mingers!

The_B_Man

haha gingers! i totally forgot about them! u get bonus points for retrieving a lock of their pubes though! i remember i was nearly blinded once the first time i saw ginger pubes! the sun was bright and they reflected the sun a bit too well! haha

and by the way, that league table is only like betting on a football match. it makes it more interesting. people are free to do what they want on holiday. if they wanna make a league table among a few close mates, so be it. not as if its against the law.

melekalikimaka

my mates went to south carolina, they sent weekly updates to all of us, kicked everyone else 'hows thing in ireland, americas great fun, saw a pick up truck' e mails lol.

and lets not forget the "wings"

red
white
brown
yellow
and so on so forth, oh the memories
(scurries for A4 pad)gonna start my summer planning

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

The_B_Man wrote:

ye its aceceptable if she has a nice body ie if shes a butterface. then u get bonus points for using a "sex bag". also, fat chicks are unacceptable unless they cook breakfast or buy u or ur mates a drink.

hey bluewolf, vulnerable? the girls go over lookin for sex! how many times do ppl need to type it on here! vulenrable would be if they dont want any form of sex and go over wit ha mental chastity belt on. thats not whats goin on here! they are "targeting" the girls who are goin over lookin for sex! not the vulnerable ones! the ones looking for sex, just like all the fellas goin over there too! this stuff happens.

ikky_poo: so ur slaggin me coz im a culchie livin in tallght? ur sayin that coz im a culchie livin in tallaght then im expected to have these views? by the way, coláiste means college! im in college in the "country".

ps i highlighted the RTE report to show that this stuff in known. and it IS known. like i said, it happens! women have more power than u think when it comes to having sex!

Like I give a flying fuck what collaiste means - seriosuly though, you're telling me you're post secondary? You're kidding, right?

And yes, you are exepcted to have these views. I think it comes from growing up in a retarded bog where there's feck all else to do!! Very limiting and mentally unchallenging as your psyche dictates.

Like I said earlier... if you want an easy shag, buy a doll!

Faith

Have I been leading a particularly sheltered life or something? None of my friends, either from school or from uni, would ever go on a holiday just to get shagged. That's just one step away from prostituting themselves.

Faith

Faith wrote:

Have I been leading a particularly sheltered life or something? None of my friends, either from school or from uni, would ever go on a holiday just to get shagged. That's just one step away from prostituting themselves.

Ditto.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock

Theory... just occured to me...


B'Man' is a lesbian...?


Discuss...

Tar.Aldarion

bluewolf wrote:

Ditto.

That just means yee are both girls tbh and not those girls. Also, girls are not as likely to admit it.

dudara

Guys, attack the post not the poster. That is all.