T-maxx 3.3

Plug

I saw that new T-maxx 3.3 a while ago and thought it looks good. Does anyone know if the transmission will fit the t-maxx 2.5(its the tranny from the revo) and will the drive shafts fit it(same as the revo).
www.traxxas.com/products/nitro/maxx/tmaxx33/trx_tmaxx33.htm

vectra

As far as I know there is a kit available for the T-Maxx 2.5 if you are converting it to a 3.3
sooooooooooo..!!
I would assume that you could just put the upgrade kit on without changing the engine..
Alternatively..
Get rid of the T-Maxx and Buy a Revo

Plug

I would think the new t-maxx3.3 is better than the revo2.5

vectra

Plug wrote:

I would think the new t-maxx3.3 is better than the revo2.5

So would I,
But i assumed you were asking about wether or not you could fit the parts from a 3.3 to your own T-Maxx... That is why I said sell it and buy a revo... Save you the bother.

tallus

I have to say I was tempted looking at the videos for the new TMaxx models, but they seem to be a tad overpriced imo.
Am I missing anything ?

g5hn710m4xpdwy

yeah, it a nirto model they are generaly always overpriced imo

Plug

500 for the t maxx and its more for new revo

vectra

500...!!
I assume you mean Euro ?
Revo 3.3 £479

Plug

No $500 thats about e440 from tower hobbies.

coolwings

Do you mean 440 + freight + vat + duty?

goldwing

coolwings wrote:

Do you mean 440 + freight + vat + duty?

no thats not including VAT, duty etc.

tallus

I think he knew that

goldwing

tallus wrote:

I think he knew that

aye

g5hn710m4xpdwy

indeed;)

Plug

It will still work out cheaper than getting it from uk:cool:

coolwings

Plug wrote:

It will still work out cheaper than getting it from uk:cool:

Freight: China -to - US - to - UK - to - Irl (=about the circumferance of planet Earth!)
Currency: Riminbi - US dollars - Sterling - Euros ( = more like the biz of a forex dealer than an RC modeller)

That is because you (by choosing this particular US product, and this particular UK supplier to compare with) added 1 x middleman, 2 x extra freightings to uk and back, and 2 x currency exchanges into the chain of delivery.

I am sure if you check out Irish stew, leprechaun hats, or Shamrocks or Guinness in Japan, or Siberia, or Antartica, you will find that the shop over there (seems to be a ripoff too) compared with the shop across the road.

Of course when you develop this shopping style to it's Nth degree, you will no doubt be getting your cornflakes mail order direct from Kelloggs, models from china, and will probably also be confused as to why there is no shops in your area selling anything, not even model fuel to put in aforesaid models!
BTW you and your family will also be unemployed because there will be no jobs left in Kilkenny, by then, since the shops and factories have closed down.
So no problem, since you have no money, your need to buy models will be shelved (as feeding yourself is a far more important priority) and you will not have to worry about saving the last cent on the model stuff any more. !

goldwing

coolwings wrote:

Freight: China -to - US - to - UK - to - Irl (=about the circumferance of planet Earth!)
Currency: Riminbi - US dollars - Sterling - Euros ( = more like the biz of a forex dealer than an RC modeller)

That is because you (by choosing this particular US product, and this particular UK supplier to compare with) added 1 x middleman, 2 x extra freightings to uk and back, and 2 x currency exchanges into the chain of delivery.

I am sure if you check out Irish stew, leprechaun hats, or Shamrocks or Guinness in Japan, or Siberia, or Antartica, you will find that the shop over there (seems to be a ripoff too) compared with the shop across the road.

Of course when you develop this shopping style to it's Nth degree, you will no doubt be getting your cornflakes mail order direct from Kelloggs, models from china, and will probably also be confused as to why there is no shops in your area selling anything, not even model fuel to put in aforesaid models!
BTW you and your family will also be unemployed because there will be no jobs left in Kilkenny, by then, since the shops and factories have closed down.
So no problem, since you have no money, your need to buy models will be shelved (as feeding yourself is a far more important priority) and you will not have to worry about saving the last cent on the model stuff any more. !

who said anything about china, and yes you can buy model fuel in kilkenny:p Its just everybody who knows this person hates him because hes a con-man and its not that big a deal going to the nearst model shop in waterford its only an hour, hour & a half drive down:p

Plug

YEAH:rolleyes: sounds like double dutch, no offense:D

coolwings

goldwing wrote:

....you can buy model fuel in kilkenny:p Its just everybody who knows this person hates him because hes a con-man and its not that big a deal going to the nearst model shop in waterford its only an hour, hour & a half drive down:p

I have heard interesting stories myself too so I sympathise .... but remember the "guy you prefer" in Waterford will not be there for long if he has to live on the proceeds of a few gallons of model fuel a year. Your big items (if you stopped personal impoorting from outside EU completely!) might not even be enough to keep him in existence.
The way it is with a local hobby shop is - "use it or lose it".

Plug

coolwings wrote:

The way it is with a local hobby shop is - "use it or lose it".

Agree, he is a sound man but hobby shops are far too dear for big products like cars and planes.e.g. 2 channell radio here e100, from america 2channell radio and a glider with everything e135. He sells cheap parts tough which is always a plus.

goldwing

coolwings wrote:

I have heard interesting stories myself too so I sympathise .... but remember the "guy you prefer" in Waterford will not be there for long if he has to live on the proceeds of a few gallons of model fuel a year. Your big items (if you stopped personal impoorting from outside EU completely!) might not even be enough to keep him in existence.
The way it is with a local hobby shop is - "use it or lose it".

He gets alot more customers than just the both of us now I assure you Ive even herd of people coming down from the just so perfect Dublin to get products that the cant get up there:p
"so yeah I'd say hes going out of business pretty rapidly"

coolwings

That's good.

goldwing

of coarse its good, so you should'nt really go in to these things if you don't know what your talking about:p

Plug

What is with all this bitching:mad:
FACE IT MODELS ARE CHEAPER AND BETTER FROM AMERICA:cool:

goldwing

Well said Plug well said:D

Plug

YEAH I KNOW

tallus

Plug wrote:

What is with all this bitching:mad:
FACE IT MODELS ARE CHEAPER AND BETTER FROM AMERICA:cool:

How can models be better if they are the exact same model? Am I going in to semantics here?
There is also the question of duty that has to be payed on anything imported from outside the E.U. 21% ? True you can get stuff marked as a gift to get past the tax, but if it gets damaged you're only covered for something less than 100 euro.
Also, if you have a problem with any imported model, you have to ship it off to wherever you bought it to have it repaired, and I'm speaking from experience here. It's a pain having to wait weeks for stuff to be shipped back to you.
So there are pros and cons.
Personally I buy a lot of stuff from the UK, but I do deal with one shop in particular in Dublin http://www.greenhobbymodel.com/ and have always found them to be extremly helpful, even with stuff I haven't purchased from them. They have a wealth of experience and aren't unwilling to share it.
I dont know of any other model shops like that, tho in fairness my experience is limited to Dublin shops.

coolwings

I'm not bitching. Are you?

I just think it's best if we have lots of modellers, lots of places to get model stuff and choices, and lots of places to use the models, clubs, tracks whatever.

I have NEVER seen a model supplier outside Ireland help, or sponsor, modelling here, set up a track, anything.
But our own shops, our own clubs DO ALL THIS AND MORE. They help beginners, run events, the lot. They put more into the hobby in Ireland than they take out. We just don't have enough of them.

That is not bitching - that is reality.

tallus

coolwings wrote:

I'm not bitching. Are you?

I just think it's best if we have lots of modellers, lots of places to get model stuff and choices, and lots of places to use the models, clubs, tracks whatever.

I have NEVER seen a model supplier outside Ireland help, or sponsor, modelling here, set up a track, anything.
But our own shops, our own clubs DO ALL THIS AND MORE. They help beginners, run events, the lot. They put more into the hobby in Ireland than they take out. We just don't have enough of them.

That is not bitching - that is reality.

well said coolwings

vectra

Plug wrote:

FACE IT MODELS ARE CHEAPER AND BETTER FROM AMERICA:cool:

You forgot to mention that they would be illegal as well in this country with their radio gear on 75Mhz..

I sadi it before and I will say it again

Cheapest option is to sell the T-Maxx and buy a Revo

Plug

There 27mhz aswel. I might sell the t-maxx and buy the new one, its better than the normal revo. HOw much would you think I should sell it for, theres only 3 gallons gone through it

Fobia

Guys, please, stop arguing, nothing wrong with some debate especially when one of those involved is one his own examples, but when ye start throwing around comments like

goldwing wrote:

of coarse its good, so you should'nt really go in to these things if you don't know what your talking about

You're only going to get personal.

Personally, I agree with coolwings here, though I will admit to having bought from the UK before, as there was no local modelshop and as such ordering in wasn't really a possibility..but if you can get it here, it's generally worth the extra few bucks.

I'm not gonna lock the thread or anything, it's a good debate that I'm always interested in - just try to keep it civil!

coolwings

The thing is .... hobby shops vary a lot.

There are "fly-by-night guys that sell over the odds,. Mind you the tuning prices I saw in this thread seem unbelievable ... almost. Some "delboys" seem to have no limit on how much they will gouge the innocent.

Next there are the "I want my hobby to pay for itself guys" who sell all their old stuff to pay for the new stuff. I think we all do a bit of that. But some fellows make an art of it - I have seen 2nd hand crap sold to a newbie for more than the cost of brand new stuff. These guys are no help either and put people who meet them off RC, when they're burned .

Then there is the small shop doing its best by selling RC beside (for example) bicycles - because these is not enough modellers living nearby to allow a full hobbyshop to survive. There is no way these guys can make the same prices as a big outfit. Don't expect them to do that. What they do, is get spare parts, fuel, and the rest into your area saving you driving many miles and much RC flying-driving-sailing time.
Can you afford to buy it all from the local guy? Maybe. Marbe not. But it is not fair to knock him in public. He is doing you a service at the best price he can. I think as we grow up, and see it all we tend to support these guys more than we did before.

Next there is the big hobbyshop in a small country. Better value, more variety, and often competitive with internet for many products. Don't expect them to beat (for example) the US on a US made part because theirs has been sent here already and their one has the freight already in the price. Often they have sourced another make that is better value and does the same job.
Usually if you talk with them they can compete with the biggest - provided they have a reason to and you are a regular customer that justifies it. The approach is - I saw it at this price, can you get close to or beat that because I plan to buy it soon".
This is where the biggest reservoir of expertise is to be found. they handle a lot of models and solve many problems learning a lot as they do so.

BTW for expertise the big clubs come next.

Finally, you get the international hobby shop - big adversisements - better prices on some items, but freight is no longer in the price. Neither is expert help. You are back to dealing with shop assistants - not modellers - who have little notion (or care little) about your success or failure as a modeller.
Here is the point - if you add in the freight, payment costs, etc the price difference is not so large as you expect. When you add in expert advice it rarely is. SO a beginner gets worse value (cos he needs advice) than an "experienced head".
My personal experience here was that I got good value on some stuff, but bad advice. This resulted in me making what I call "Buying errors" where I got the wrong bit, or missed out on a "short cut" that an expert could have given me like for example "you don't need to buy that temp guage - just put your thumb on it for 2 seconds, and if you can't keep it there for another second richen up the needle a tad".
Another gripe I have from this stage in my model career is that I was encourage to buy ten of the part in case I broke it again, and that would cause another 2 weeks waiting. Either that bit didn't break again cos I learned how not to, or, the model wore out before I used it up. So the long distance supplier causes you to accumulate a potful of unused spare parts for models you no longer have. You throw them in the bin years later when you wise up.

Truth is - we all move up the model learning curve - and we all disregard the advice we are given because "we know better" !

* * * *

As far as "America is better" ...... well what can I say?
Most world car races seem to be won by Japanese teenagers using Japanese cars.
The best engines seem to be East European, German or Italian.
In electric speed flight the Germans, Swiss, Austria regularly beat the US, and often offer US teams their equipment (and everybody their advice) so the competition will be fairer. Though the gap is closing - it is still a gulf the US try to bridge every year, and they still come 4th to 7th.
In RC yachting - it seems to be Australia.
Helicopters - made in far east or Germany.
Fibreglass and carbon composite aircraft - the best come from Czech Republic and Russia.

I have to admit - in each area above there is a US company that is the best in the US. I can give you a name if you insist on buying US made, despite that somewhere else does a better one.

So what are the US supreme at in RC?
Oh. Yes.
I've got it.
They make the best websites and web videos for their (chinese made) cars and trucks!

vectra

coolwings wrote:

So what are the US supreme at in RC?
Oh. Yes.
I've got it.
They make the best websites and web videos for their (chinese made) cars and trucks!

Agreed

tallus

vectra wrote:

Agreed

I second that emotion

coolwings

To get back to the thread .... Has anyone put the Tmaxx 2.5 beside the 3.3 yet?

I am always curious can the footprint use the extra power, or is the 3.3 wheelspin & lose control time - with the older engine actually giving better handling? I am thinking not much else changed in the chassis-suspensions.

Or to put it another way - Is it just a "make more money" option and is Vectra right?

vectra

coolwings wrote:

Or to put it another way - Is it just a "make more money" option and is Vectra right?

Well,
To be honest about it.
I have a revo and run it on 20% nitro.
I would much prefer to run it on 25 or even 30% fuel and chance shortening the lifespan of my engine rather than throw out lots of dosh to come up a little in performance

Plug

The trasmission, shocks(same as the revo inside), drivshafts, brake, optidrive, .20engine, and a wheelie bar:cool: Better than the revo 2.5

vectra

Plug wrote:

Better than the revo 2.5

And you know this from experience ? :rolleyes:

Well,
If you want a 3.3 T-Maxx I have a buddy in the UK selling one..

Here is his advert

Hi all ,unfortunaltey i need to raise some cash so im selling my 2 week old T-MAXX 3.3 in black with box and all that came with it ,just run in (properly its my 3rd Taxxas)

These are not due in the uk till end of may and will retail at £429

Looking for £320

Here is a Pic of it

Plug

Thats E480, still a bit pricey:( I recon I can get it brand new rtr with everything except fuel for about E500. Is he selling it with a 6cell battery and charger do you know.

vectra wrote:

And you know this from experience ? :rolleyes:

No, but I read a good review that siad it would be better in terms of engine output and speed than a revo with an os18 tm:p

vectra

Plug wrote:

Thats E480, still a bit pricey:( I recon I can get it brand new rtr with everything except fuel for about E500. Is he selling it with a 6cell battery and charger do you know.

€480... well if you want the godds you have to pay for them
PLUS
This has been professionally run in ..(hence you dont have to go to the bother)

So if you want to wait to spend another €20 on top of that... PLUS Take a chance on thats what you finally end up paying for it.... PLUS the waiting time from the U.S. To maybe discover that it will be ridiculously priced and maybe not available... only to discover this one would be sold..

OH,
And if you have read up a lot about them.. then you will know what came with it.. as the advert says..

Dont worry bud.. I am only trying to help

Also...!!
As you can read from his advert... this is his THIRD T-Maxx...
I wonder why is it this one he is selling ??
Maybe the Reviews he read were not all they were made out to be.?? Maybe a bit dissapointed in the "HOW MUCH BETTER THIS ONE IS OVER THE OLD ONE" Hype? :rolleyes:

Plug

vectra wrote:

As you can read from his advert... this is his THIRD T-Maxx...
I wonder why is it this one he is selling ??
Maybe the Reviews he read were not all they were made out to be.?? Maybe a bit dissapointed in the "HOW MUCH BETTER THIS ONE IS OVER THE OLD ONE" Hype? :rolleyes:

HE needs to raise a bit of cash it says:rolleyes:

vectra

Plug wrote:

HE needs to raise a bit of cash it says:rolleyes:

ermm..
Yes.. i already knew that..
BUT
If the 3.3 is soooooooooooooo gooood..
Why would he not sell the older one and keep this one ?
Hmm. I wonder.

Plug

It dosent say nothing about an older one

vectra

OK,
Looks like all you want to do is prove a point.
So,
Suit yourself
Go make a fool of yourself and buy from the States.
Everything i try to do to help you ,all that happens is you come back with a silly remark..:mad:

Will an Admin please close this topic as somepeople cannot see for themselves that others are trying to help them out.

Plug

Yeah, what ever your into yourself!:rolleyes:

Fobia

Guys, please read the charter. I've warned already on this thread and yet this continues. I'm sure you both know it's not worth arguing over such a small issue. I've never had to ban any of ye before and I really don't want to, but if posts like

Plug wrote:

Yeah, what ever your into yourself!

Continue I'll be forced to.

Thread locked - there's no more discussion to be had here, unfortunately.

Plug: Please don't get personal.
Vectra: Please don't keep fighting when you know all you're going to do is aggravate the other. Really, what's the point?

Neither can win an arguement like this, and ye both know it.