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Oblivion - What are you?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    You're much better off not picking those two as class skills and just running and jumping about while playing - there are more useful skills to pick as class skills.

    Why is everyone so anti acrobatics and athletics? I dont care if you dont think they're useful, for my character it was essential in my mind that he be ultra mobile, so getting those skills up to high levels quickly was very important. So why exactly do you feel its appropriate to tell me what I should and shouldn't do with my character?

    For one you don't know what my priorities are, and secondly you don't realise the benefits of it. Which do you think is more useful for my master marksman, being good with a blade or having a bunch of spells, or being so fast and agile that no opponent can catch him before he fills them with arrows?


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Timans


    I beg to differ actually, I originally thought this. i created a few char's but now i am 100% happy with my latest guy. I found picking Athletics and Aerobatics are very good especially as an assasin kinda guy.

    I chose as major skills :

    Athletics
    Aerobatics
    Illusion
    Blade
    Marksman
    Sneak
    Security

    I love being able to jump high, makes assasinating people easy. :D

    Totally agree with you Zillah and i think our guys would get a long swimmingly, in fact, lets start a guild. :D


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 18,115 ✭✭✭✭ShiverinEskimo


    Zillah wrote:
    Why is everyone so anti acrobatics and athletics? I dont care if you dont think they're useful

    Noted. Keep your hair on. Its a discussion forum - I'm discussing it. Do what you like with your character.
    IN MY OPINION I'd rather be able to do more damage, take more damage and steal more stuff than run faster and jump farther from the start considering that will happen naturally sooner or later. If we start arguing over what to say or do in an open ended 200hr+ RPG this thread will go on and on.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Timans wrote:
    I chose as major skills :

    Athletics
    Aerobatics
    Illusion
    Blade
    Marksman
    Sneak
    Security

    I love being able to jump high, makes assasinating people easy. :D

    Totally agree with you Zillah and i think our guys would get a long swimmingly, in fact, lets start a guild. :D

    Dude! :
    Zillah wrote:
    I love my ninja. Blade, Marksman, Athletics, Acrobatics, Sneak, Security and Illusion.

    We're like, ninja-twins.
    If we start arguing over what to say or do in an open ended 200hr+ RPG this thread will go on and on.

    You're the one that was telling me that I made the wrong choice. I appreciate the addition of "in my opinion" and thats fine, but thats not what you said in the first place, hence my reaction.


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 9,689 Mod ✭✭✭✭stevenmu


    Zillah wrote:
    ?!!? How can you have a ninja that isn't able to zip around and leap onto rooftops?
    No one told me there'd be jumping onto rooftops :(


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,653 ✭✭✭steviec


    You people are making me rethink my choice now! I've put too many hours into him to go back now. I also thought Acrobatics was useless. In fact I considered it at first but then I read the manual and all it said was it would let me attack while jumping and fall longer distances, not jump higher!

    Also Marksman seemed like it sucked in the tutorial dungeon(I originally had a ninja type character in mind and ended up opting for magic user with sneak and security) so I dropped it cos fireballs seemed a more reliable ranged choice. But I'd see how super useful it would be on rooftops hmmmmm.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,685 ✭✭✭✭BlitzKrieg


    here are a few pics of myself with my skills on display.

    this is from last night though. so i'm up to level 12 now and i have almost 90 in my speed skills. and i am a expert sneak now. also i am now a vampire...


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,145 ✭✭✭_CreeD_


    One train of thought against Acrobatics/Athletics as majors is that with the levelling system revamp in Oblivion you will level quickly with modifiers in those areas to the point where the enemies you face completely overwhelm your attack/defense skills. It happened to me early on and I had to lower the slider for a while and refocus on my marksman and light armour skills. Still I like both, for one I hate being too slow.
    My guy's a Dark Elf custom class, now Expert marksman and Sneak. other majors are Light Armour, Security,Blade, Athletics.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    _CreeD_ wrote:
    One train of thought against Acrobatics/Athletics as majors is that with the levelling system revamp in Oblivion you will level quickly with modifiers in those areas to the point where the enemies you face completely overwhelm your attack/defense skills.

    Didn't happen me :)


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    stevenmu wrote:
    No one told me there'd be jumping onto rooftops :(

    Well for you there wont be...sucker :)

    I've started again with a wizardly character, just for the hell of it. I'll probably swap between them for a while.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Smellyirishman


    You only level once all your majors have raised though, and since enemies level with you I really don't see how it would cause a disparity, maybe I am missing something. I like my A & A (athletics and acrobatics) because it enables my ranger to get out of a situation when needed (which can be often against the mage of a cave) and lets me strafe guys easily. Just yesterday I was fighting a mage who was tossing fireballs and silences at me, but because of my A & A I could jump over any fireballs and quickly sideste any other crap coming at me, all this while pinning him with arrows *while* I jumped.

    It's especially useful outside when a wolf is on your case (or something worse) and you can just bound onto the nearest rock formation to saftey.

    Also, each to his own, there is no right/wrong, it's all about what you want.


  • Registered Users Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    You only level once all your majors have raised though

    Not true, you level up once you've increased any of your class skills enough times. You can level each one once, or just one of them ten times or whatever. If you spend all your time using, say, alchemy, and nothing else, you'll level up without increasing any other skills.


  • Registered Users Posts: 7,606 ✭✭✭Jumpy


    Redguard Spellsword under the Warrior.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,864 ✭✭✭uberpixie


    adventuer class of Imperial bastard.

    Major skills blade, armourer, block, marksman, stealth, security and speech.

    Speech actually levels up quite fast and the mini game for getting NPCs desposition up is quite easy once you get the hang of it.

    Have no magic to speak of and am slowly trying to bring my restoration up.

    Prob should have taken light armour as a skill: it seems to be going up fairly well though by it's self.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,370 ✭✭✭Timans


    Zillah wrote:
    Dude! :



    We're like, ninja-twins.



    You're the one that was telling me that I made the wrong choice. I appreciate the addition of "in my opinion" and thats fine, but thats not what you said in the first place, hence my reaction.
    lol, nice. Ninja Twins? Oh yeah. :D

    and _CreeD_, i don't think that will happen as the athletics and acrobatics are very hard to level up anyway even though you use them so often.

    Ninja's! BOOYA!


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,285 ✭✭✭Smellyirishman


    Zillah wrote:
    Not true, you level up once you've increased any of your class skills enough times....

    Ah, I see


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,145 ✭✭✭_CreeD_


    As for how they level up it depends on how you play (Same goes for whether you run into a skill disparity through levelling quickly). Personally I run everywhere, rarely use fast travel at all and tried a horse for about 30 mins just to see what they were like, hence athletics bosted quite often. I hit 100 speed around level 14 or so and having those nice big multipliers from all the running (It takes 10 level-ups in any major skill to provide a full character level up, the more you have used one of those major skills the greater the multiplier applied to it's governing skill when you up your character), which made my guy nice and zippy and usually capable of running rings around opponents, but if he got cornered at all or met something as fast (Like a mountain lion) he was toast. Focusing on my combat skills for a few levels evened the playing field again. This is a common experience if you have a gander at the official forums. Anyway, lvl 20 now, expert marksman and sneak and the guy's a terminator :).


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,130 ✭✭✭✭Karl Hungus


    I started again with a rather odd Dark Elf assassin/mage type combo. I think I might start off again, and see what I can come up with this time around. Half the fun of the game is creating characters, it seems.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    i ended up with a redguard warrior/thief. athletics is great as a major, the multiplier from it leveling up has boosted my speed loads, so now its 120, and im not even a vampire. I still haven't found anything that i cant move quicker than, even though im in heavy armour. The simplest way for me to kill enemies is to run up to them, then just run around them in circles swiping at them with my claymore. Since i'm so fast, they end up spending way too much time trying to turn to face me, and end up never getting a chance to hit back.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,580 ✭✭✭✭Sand


    Started with a Redguard, got about 3-4 hours in then restarted with a Wood Elf Archer using the sign of the Thief for max attribute benefit (sacrificed Endurance boost but worth it given Endurance is easy to raise fast and Luck isnt)- was actually messing with the character creator and just found the character more fun to play.

    Been going for the 30 Point Level Ups to raise Attributes by 15 points each level. Means I raise level slower (dont have Athletics major for that very reason, but I use it to get +5 point Speed every level) but Ill avoid any problems with levelling too fast anyway. Also means I have to keep track of which exact skills I raise - I cant use restoration anymore, if I do itll increase an fubar my perfect 15.

    My training regime includes finding Bandits and using them to train Block while shouting "Cmon, stop trying to hit me and hit me!" but Im still finding time to fit in the odd side quest and bit of exploration. Kinda like the Sims with edged implements right now.

    Im now musing about building a new Redguard....


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭chamlis


    Blowfish wrote:
    i ended up with a redguard warrior/thief. athletics is great as a major, the multiplier from it leveling up has boosted my speed loads, so now its 120, and im not even a vampire. I still haven't found anything that i cant move quicker than, even though im in heavy armour. The simplest way for me to kill enemies is to run up to them, then just run around them in circles swiping at them with my claymore. Since i'm so fast, they end up spending way too much time trying to turn to face me, and end up never getting a chance to hit back.

    Hehehe try a Mountain Lion. Those guys can move. The bane of my exploration of Crowhaven....
    He's got me pinned on top of a rock. I can't outrun him, arrows make tiny dents, and flare is the only ranged magic attack I have (which is a joke).


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,304 ✭✭✭✭koneko


    Yeah, when you first come across those mountain lions they're a royal pain. Really fast and they hit so hard. First time I saw one was in a dungeon (cave) and it ran at me and clawed me to death before I even saw what it was.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,175 ✭✭✭chamlis


    Yup sounds very familliar. I ran into a cave that was nearby, cleaned it out, and when I left the cave the lion was out of range. So I quick travelled the hell out of there before he blocked me.


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,112 ✭✭✭Blowfish


    yeah mountain lions were painful early on, did get butt kicked a couple of times with them. i did have one case when i was getting quicker where i was miles out from anywhere (near the border with morrowind), and one started following me. I could run from it, but it was about the same speed as me. damn thing followed me all the way to cheydinhal!


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