hurt on the luas

dbnavan

I was on the Luas today when someone walked out in front of it and it had to jam on very suddenly. I fell forward onto a railing and sprained my finger(I know its a sprain having been a goalkeeper and had it several times i know the feeling), the driver asked was anyone hurt and I was only one.

He wanted to know if I wanted to report it or go to the hospital and I said no its ok, no point in claiming for a sprained finger very very sore but if i would have loved to claim off someone it was the idiot that walked out infront of the tram.

Very sore finger tonight straped it up myself, but question is would everyone have reacted the same way, I can hardly hold to company or driver to blame for avoiding killing someone even if they were an idiot. People have claimed for less.

Draupnir

You should have gone to the hospital or at least mad a complaint to the driver. If your finger is mangled now then you have no comeback since you made no complaint or report.

lodgepole

dbnavan wrote:

Very sore finger tonight straped it up myself, but question is would everyone have reacted the same way, I can hardly hold to company or driver to blame for avoiding killing someone even if they were an idiot. People have claimed for less.

Fair play to you, most people wouldn't have the decency to accept it as an accident. I don't know if drivers have to report incidents like that, but it may have been worthwhile asking him to make note of it officially.

dbnavan

Draupnir wrote:

You should have gone to the hospital or at least mad a complaint to the driver. If your finger is mangled now then you have no comeback since you made no complaint or report.

Complain over what? The fact that he hurt my finger over instead of kill someone? Gone to hospital to add to the 337 tonight in our causulty wards and maybe wait 6/7 to do something i could do myself?

projectmayhem

dbnavan wrote:

Complain over what? The fact that he hurt my finger over instead of kill someone? Gone to hospital to add to the 337 tonight in our causulty wards and maybe wait 6/7 to do something i could do myself?

you did the right thing. like you said, it was put up or add another person to the hospital queue and try and earn a quick buck off someone elses stupidity

junkyard

Fair play to you for not making a big deal out of it. Not being from Dublin or having seen the Luas close up only what I've seen on T.V. I'm surprised there hasn't been more accidents than there have been. Does it have seat belts? Do you have to stand if there are no seats available? If this is the case there could be safety implications.

jd

junkyard wrote:

Does it have seat belts? Do you have to stand if there are no seats available? If this is the case there could be safety implications.

just like any light-rail commuter system in the world, really.:rolleyes:

Dave!

yeah fair play to you. there's too many people who sue because they can (as opposed to because they need to).

Guy:Incognito

junkyard wrote:

Fair play to you for not making a big deal out of it. Not being from Dublin or having seen the Luas close up only what I've seen on T.V. I'm surprised there hasn't been more accidents than there have been. Does it have seat belts? Do you have to stand if there are no seats available? If this is the case there could be safety implications.

Ho so? Full size trains dont have seatbelts and go faster, busses dont and as pointed out above, other light rail around the world dont either.


Oh, to OP, fair play for the reaction (or lack of).

jonny68

I fell to the floor 2 years ago on the LUAS when the driver had to brake suddendly in order to avoid hitting some junkie scumbag who was so out of his head nr Heuston Statiion he didn't realise just how close he came to death,i wouldn't mind it was my 2nd ever time to use the LUAS :eek: thankfully since then apart from the odd driver braking a bit hard there have been no incidents.

JohnCleary

I wouldnt have filed against the LUAS tbh, the driver braked to avoid killing someone.

However, if you got your hands on the person that jumped out infront of the LUAS... :mad:

TomTom

I too have fallen on the luas but never hurt myself. One day though on the green line the driver had to break suddenly coming into beechwood as some asshole broke the lights and drove out in front of it. Being a true muppet he stoped when he saw the luas but if he kept going the luas would not have had to stop. The luas had to grind to a halt as the tosser sat on the track staring at it for a few moments. The bad thing was, a guy in his late 50's early 60's was walking to the door to get off and when the luas broke he fell. he banged his head and was bleeding a bit. The driver came out and kept apologising and called an ambulance. The guy did not want an ambulance but as he banged his head the driver insisted on it. The guy told the driver it was not his fault and not to worry about it. He was only doing his job. He was lucky we were pulling into a station and the luas was going slow enough as i'd say if it was going full speed he would have broke himself up alltogether off the drivers door, along with a few other people.

I think the luas is great but some people out there need to have darwins theory forcefully applied to them.

Slutmonkey57b

I think it should be illegal for luas drivers to brake for pedestrians. Anyone stupid enough to hop out in front of a tram to save themselves 30 seconds deserves whatever they get. It's not like the extra 30 seconds is going to be spent shagging supermodels, is it?

funk-you

Slutmonkey57b wrote:

It's not like the extra 30 seconds is going to be spent shagging supermodels, is it?

Speak for yourself.

-Funk

The Real B-man

Fair play its people like you that stop Ireland turning into & Suing Nation for small accidents the like the usa "i broke a nail im Suing your ass"

Fighting Irish

Lodgepole wrote:

Fair play to you, most people wouldn't have the decency to accept it as an accident. I don't know if drivers have to report incidents like that, but it may have been worthwhile asking him to make note of it officially.

:rolleyes: he should have at least being brought to the hospital

Fighting Irish

Slutmonkey57b wrote:

I think it should be illegal for luas drivers to brake for pedestrians. Anyone stupid enough to hop out in front of a tram to save themselves 30 seconds deserves whatever they get. It's not like the extra 30 seconds is going to be spent shagging supermodels, is it?

I only read the bolded part and didn't read anymore :rolleyes:

Nietzschean

Fighting Irish wrote:

:rolleyes: he should have at least being brought to the hospital

Why? he obviously didn't feel the need......... As pointed out they are a bit on the over-crowded side already...

I only read the bolded part and didn't read anymore

Short attention span?

It might be somewhat OTT(and intentionally so) , but the sentiment is right, certainly should be some sort of offence legally to be doing it.

WhiteWashMan

you should have gone to hospital.

lodgepole

Why should he have gone to hospital? Even if he had broken his finger, a broken finger isn't worth taking up a place in a the A&E for.

And the over the top statement about running over pedestrians is nonsense, even the sentiment. Accidents happen. There's a thousand different reasons why somebody may find themselves accidentally in front of a car or LUAS.

Fighting Irish

Nietzschean wrote:

Why? he obviously didn't feel the need......... As pointed out they are a bit on the over-crowded side already...

Very sore finger tonight straped it up myself

And it obviously must be serious enough if he has to ask us about it

Nietzschean wrote:

Short attention span?

It might be somewhat OTT(and intentionally so) , but the sentiment is right, certainly should be some sort of offence legally to be doing it.

I think it should be illegal for luas drivers to brake for pedestrians

Illegal for a lus driver to brake for pedestrians!!!!
Would you be happy if it was made ILLEGAL for car drivers to brake for pedestrians?

Fighting Irish

Lodgepole wrote:

Why should he have gone to hospital? Even if he had broken his finger, a broken finger isn't worth taking up a place in a the A&E for.

And the over the top statement about running over pedestrians is nonsense, even the sentiment. Accidents happen. There's a thousand different reasons why somebody may find themselves accidentally in front of a car or LUAS.

Welll maybe not a hospital considering the state they are in, but maybe a doctors or something?

WhiteWashMan

Lodgepole wrote:

Why should he have gone to hospital? Even if he had broken his finger, a broken finger isn't worth taking up a place in a the A&E for. .

if i was injured in an accident, i would go to the hospital.
what you feel is right or wrong has nothing to do with it.

if theres an injury, why wouldnt you get it looked at? at what point do you consider an injury serious enough to warrant a wait in A&E?

id it the point of too much blood loss?
is it the point that you have fainted?
is it after being crushed by falling masonry?

i would consider a broken finger worth taking up a place in A&E by the way.
especially if it is caused by someone else.

Gurgle

WhiteWashMan wrote:

i would consider a broken finger worth taking up a place in A&E by the way.
especially if it is caused by someone else.

Worth the place as in you're entitled to the place? Of course
Worth hanging around and wasting 7-8 hours of your life for no medical treatment ? Maybe not

dbnavan

A few years back while teaching in a school I decided to play soccer with some of the lads in PE to even up the team, during this I injured my wrist, bad sprain and because it was a work related injury I had to go the hospital for insurance purposes. I sat from 2.30 til 9 that night waiting for a doctor to look at an xray which was taken about say 5.30.

He eventually told me yes its just a sprain, wrap it up nothing we can do, only reason I went on this occasion as I said, it was work related. Wasn't going to take up another casualty spot yesterday just for the sake of it, IMO even if I had broken my arm or whatever, why should LUAS be responsible they didn't intend to see me hurt, the driver did nothing wrong, the whole meaning of accident seems to be forgotten in society when there might be a chance of a claim.

I remember years ago my grandfather was knocked down because he was standing in the middle of a road and crossing over when he stepped backwards to let a car by and was hit from a car behind. anyway the driver accepted responsibility and by grandfather said "don't be silly man, it was my own bloody fault, i don't want your money". If more people took this attitude insurance costs would be so much lower.

That is not to say I would never claim off someone but there would have to be a strong reason and a non beneficial financial gain.

Ruaidhri

Fighting Irish wrote:

Illegal for a lus driver to brake for pedestrians!!!!
Would you be happy if it was made ILLEGAL for car drivers to brake for pedestrians?

Quite happy! Actually, I'd invest in bull-bars.

Something from my childhood is coming back to me..something about looking left,right,left,right,forwards,backwards before attempting to cross a road.

It isn't that hard to get hit by a tram, they are almost silent, unlike cars, and usually run in random places. In Dublin at least there's an obvious track, but I nearly got hit in Amsterdam and I'm the most cautious person ever.

Civilian_Target

TomTom wrote:

I think the luas is great but some people out there need to have darwins theory forcefully applied to them.

I agree - education from the front end of a 100 ton tram would do some people the world of good.

Terry

dbnavan wrote:

A few years back while teaching in a school I decided to play soccer with some of the lads in PE to even up the team, during this I injured my wrist, bad sprain and because it was a work related injury I had to go the hospital for insurance purposes. I sat from 2.30 til 9 that night waiting for a doctor to look at an xray which was taken about say 5.30.

He eventually told me yes its just a sprain, wrap it up nothing we can do, only reason I went on this occasion as I said, it was work related. Wasn't going to take up another casualty spot yesterday just for the sake of it, IMO even if I had broken my arm or whatever, why should LUAS be responsible they didn't intend to see me hurt, the driver did nothing wrong, the whole meaning of accident seems to be forgotten in society when there might be a chance of a claim.

I remember years ago my grandfather was knocked down because he was standing in the middle of a road and crossing over when he stepped backwards to let a car by and was hit from a car behind. anyway the driver accepted responsibility and by grandfather said "don't be silly man, it was my own bloody fault, i don't want your money". If more people took this attitude insurance costs would be so much lower.

That is not to say I would never claim off someone but there would have to be a strong reason and a non beneficial financial gain.

damn right.
there is a family around the corner from me who have made a living from friviolous claims. it's a joke.
i've been knocked down and in three or four car crashes (no driving myself) and have never claimed. i wasn't seriously injured in any of these incidents, yet several people were baffled as to why i didn't claim.
the time i was knocked down (moped hit my bicycle as i crossed the road), i lay on the ground for about ten minutes. i jokingly told the driver of the moped that i was going to sue him for all he had. he started panicking, so i told him i was kidding. i then got up and hobbled home. i was fine a couple of days later.
people making ridiculous claims are the reason motor insurance is so high in this country.

lodgepole

WhiteWashMan wrote:

if i was injured in an accident, i would go to the hospital.
what you feel is right or wrong has nothing to do with it.

if theres an injury, why wouldnt you get it looked at? at what point do you consider an injury serious enough to warrant a wait in A&E?

The OP said that he knew it was a sprain, having had the injury before. I've been injured many times and not going to a hosptial or a doctor's office, it's all down to how you feel personally about it. If the OP didn't think he needed to go and made a judgement call in that manner, then there is no real reason why he should. I could understand if he had hit his head... That's the kind of injury that can go unnoticed until it's too late.

Ruaidhri wrote:

Quite happy! Actually, I'd invest in bull-bars.

Something from my childhood is coming back to me..something about looking left,right,left,right,forwards,backwards before attempting to cross a road.

The anonymous world of the internet is a wonderful place to make such statements. Utter ****e is what it is. As though every pedestrian killed in a road accident is killed as a result of their own misconduct on the road. Have you ever lost an aquaintance in such a way? If so, do you hold them in the same regard?

Ruaidhri

Lodgepole wrote:

The anonymous world of the internet is a wonderful place to make such statements.

Hmm,that's why I use my real first name. And also hint at my location. Not an assumed moniker...Perfect anonymity. I'd say the same thing in real life, except you might get the hint of a joke from it there...

Utter ****e is what it is. As though every pedestrian killed in a road accident is killed as a result of their own misconduct on the road. Have you ever lost an aquaintance in such a way? If so, do you hold them in the same regard?

No,I've not lost anybody to traffic accidents. Are you honestly suggesting that every pedestrian is careful?

And I've spend a LONG time as a pedestrian. I always check oncoming traffic if I'm crossing a road. I've never had an accident, I've never even had a close call. It could have something to do with not taking a risk when I'm a squishy bag of organs against a few hundred kilo's of hard metal with large momentum.

Imo, most accidents could be avoided with a little care. My original statement refers to removing careless people from the gene pool.

Yes genuine accidents do happen, but not so much as we're lead to believe.