Election Results (so far)

ilovemybrick

Referendum is passed
Denise Keogh elected welfare officer
Rob elected Education.
the contentious ones are to come. shane has a frightening percentage of these two races and could really have an affect on the presidential count.

Plunky

Thanks for that!

Thirdfox

I voted Shane for pres (as no. 3 choice... )

What was the referendum about (actually what was the constitution about?) I didn't know anything about it and in times of doubt preserve the status quo (I voted no...) But now that's it's passed I would like to know what saying yes meant...

Plunky

www.tcdsu.org and follow the links...?

foxybrowne

ilovemybrick wrote:

Referendum is passed
Denise Keogh elected welfare officer
Rob elected Education.
the contentious ones are to come. shane has a frightening percentage of these two races and could really have an affect on the presidential count.

Is Shane playing the Ralph Nader?

Thirdfox

Plunky wrote:

www.tcdsu.org and follow the links...?

Doesn't seem to work when I search for either referendum or constitution... do you have a link to the actual article discussing it?

foxybrowne

ilovemybrick wrote:

Referendum is passed
Denise Keogh elected welfare officer
Rob elected Education.

Fair play Denise Keogh, Rob and Ross for the Referendum.

baldur0300

Well done to those elected. Any news on the other elections yet. Anybody see piranha. I'm not exactly easily shocked but I was shocked by that yoke from cover to cover. It wasn't funny just abusive.

foxybrowne

abusive to the maxxx

Plunky

@Thirdfox: http://su.netsoc.tcd.ie/crg/constitutionwithchanges.pdf

pCiaran

that murph the smurf beat Jane Cassidy to Ents by 66 votes
pCiaran

Plunky

really? wow...

foxybrowne

Jaysus

Rredwell

Do the results actually get announced?

ApeXaviour

"Dónal McCormack to relocate college creche down pants"

baldur0300 wrote:

It wasn't funny just abusive.

Ah dont be so sensitive, it's hilarious tbh. Need to get your desensitisation on

Nietzschean

ApeXaviour wrote:

Ah dont be so sensitive, it's hilarious tbh. Need to get your desensitisation on

Some of it was funny, but i'd agree quite alot of it was plain abusive with random **** thrown in at the end to make it look 'non personal'

osd

Dave is ahead of Harmon by 18 votes but there's a recount!

The constitution was low key because it basically boiled down to a tiny campaign team.
I am really sorry if you didn't hear about it Thirdfox but there is only so much I could do.
Go to www.tcdsu.org/crg to find out more...
I'll do a postering campaign at least to promote the headlining changes in coming weeks!
A notable change is that any 10 students of the college (ie non-class reps) can bring motions to SU Council. Also Disability has been added to the Union's non-discrimination policy. Changes to the exec were also made.
Ross

ApeXaviour

Nietzschean wrote:

Some of it was funny, but i'd agree quite alot of it was plain abusive with random **** thrown in at the end to make it look 'non personal'

Just what might you be alluding to?

osd

Also Simon Hall definitely won dep pres.

To sum up:

Prez: Dave Quinn (recount in progress & Harmon has made up 10 votes in the first re-round)
Dep Prez: Simon Hall
Education: Rob Kearns
Welfare: Denise Keogh
Ents: Barry Murphy (recount in progress)
Referendum: Yes

Nietzschean

ApeXaviour wrote:

Just what might you be alluding to?

well the piece on denise seemed just harsh. didn't read the entire thing, but the first paragraph was a blatant attack , the next section was a complete tangent i guess to make some sort of disassociation....


o and for those that don't know, dec managed to soil himself on his ballot paper

Pet

o and for those that don't know, dec managed to soil himself on his ballot paper

Yeh woh?

ApeXaviour

Nietzschean wrote:

well the piece on denise seemed just harsh. didn't read the entire thing, but the first paragraph was a blatant attack , the next section was a complete tangent i guess to make some sort of disassociation....

They said shane obrien looks like a pre-op autistic tranny. That mcguirk looks like a pig. I don't see you shouting about them? The first paragraph apparently isn't even in reference to her, the latter ones are. In the general tone of the mag you gotta expect this kinda thing though. Put yourself in the public, what do you expect a satirical mag such as this to do? It's gonna tear you apart, find any apparent faults and exploit them.

That's why I think they actually supported shane o brien somewhat. He really put himself out there and doesn't seem to care whatsoever.

Nietzschean wrote:

o and for those that don't know, dec managed to soil himself on his ballot paper

Needs explanation tbh

Dec says:
I poo'd on my ballot paper before submitting it

xeduCat

Too tired to add formatting. Maybe in the morning.

Constitutional Referendum

Votes cast: 2602
Spoiled: 424
Valid poll: 2178

Yes: 1631
No: 547

Referendum carried

President (after two recounts)

Votes cast: 2720
Spoiled: 55
Valid poll: 2665
Quota: 1333

First count

McGoldrick 101
McGuirk 351
Murtagh 826
O'Brien 78
Quinn 841
Treacy 348
RON 120

McGoldrick, O'Brien and RON eliminated

Second count

McGuirk + 23 = 374
Murtagh + 59 = 885
Quinn + 38 = 879
Tracey + 33 = 381
Non transferable = 146

McGuirk and Tracey eliminated

Third count

Murtagh + 225 = 1110
Quinn + 248 = 1127

Quinn elected without reaching the quota

Deputy President

Votes cast: 2681
Spoiled: 180
Valid poll: 2501
Quota: 1251

First count

Flaherty 309
Hall 1185
Mallon 431
O'Brien 349
RON 227

RON eliminated

Second count

Flaherty + 12 = 321
Hall + 24 = 1209
Mallon + 9 = 440
O'Brien + 12 = 361
Non transferable = 170

Flaherty eliminated

Third count

Hall + 117 = 1326
Mallon + 65 = 505
O'Brien + 21 = 382
Non transferable = 118

Simon Hall elected on passing the quota

Education Officer

Votes cast: 2663
Spoiled: 155
Valid poll: 2508
Quota: 1255

First count

Bennison 369
Kearns 1467
O'Brien 413
RON 259

Robert Kearns elected on passing the quota

Welfare Officer

Votes cast: 2694
Spoiled: 144
Valid poll: 2550
Quota: 1276

First count

Keogh 1918
O'Brien 362
RON 270

Denise Keogh elected on passing the quota

Ents Officer

Votes cast: 2738
Spoiled: 49
Valid poll: 2689
Quota: 1345

First count

Cassidy 899
Mulcahy 454
Murphy 959
O'Brien 67
O'Neill 265
RON 45

O'Brien, O'Neill and RON eliminated

Second count

Cassidy + 68 = 967
Mulcahy + 57 = 511
Murphy + 70 = 1029
Non transferable = 182

Mulcahy eliminated

Third count

Cassidy + 177 = 1144
Murphy + 183 = 1212
Non transferable = 151

Murphy elected without reaching the quota

Nietzschean

ApeXaviour wrote:

They said shane obrien looks like a pre-op autistic tranny. That mcguirk looks like a pig. I don't see you shouting about them?

1) I was only shown the page with her on it, haven't read the thing cover to cover
2) I know denise, so really i'm not going to care about people i don't know...

The first paragraph apparently isn't even in reference to her,

Thats rather irrlevent, it wasn't funny, it was just some stupid idiot having a go at people. Its one thing for parana to make a joke out of crap, but that really is a whole other matter.

the latter ones are. In the general tone of the mag you gotta expect this kinda thing though.

The latter ones if i recall correctly have only one thing to do with denise, which is where she's from, it could be a random paragraph taken from anything from what i can tell. just the locality substituted in. It wasn't comedy, those were just bizzare...

Put yourself in the public, what do you expect a satirical mag such as this to do? It's gonna tear you apart, find any apparent faults and exploit them.

i'd expect a satirical mag, to well be funny. It really reeked of them having nothing interesting to say so just attack some candidates, if any of what i read was funny i really wouldn't have cared less what it said, its what the mags about, but last time i checked its goal wasn't to just go insult people to fill the page?

faults? you mean calling someone ugly in a mag is exploiting a fault?


And for the record, as to the other candidates, if the descriptions were of a similar vein I'd probally disagree with them also.........

Time Magazine

I'm stuck in town .

College won't let me in.

I just bought a night in a cybercafé :(:(.

Dónal wouldn't help me either! :(:(

Quinn definitely won. It was as close as 5 votes out of 2700 at one stage.

ilovemybrick

Angry Banana wrote:

I'm stuck in town .

College won't let me in.

I just bought a night in a cybercafé :(:(.

Dónal wouldn't help me either! :(:(

hahahahahahahhahah this guy kevin was looking for you.wouldnt say why though.

Time Magazine

Kev who?

Kev from boards? WTF?

melekalikimaka

ilovemybrick wrote:

hahahahahahahhahah this guy kevin was looking for you.wouldnt say why though.

he was looking for him for bad mouthing muph's team, watch your back, your a wanted man( no joke).


david quinn will destroy trinity... i pity the fools who voted for him( 1st and 2nd year arts people i think). this guy will...WILL destroy any reputation the college has, thank god simon got vice, great man, i hope he puts that quinn character in his place( a few hundred votes behind harman...). muph for ents.... enough said, the man deserved it

Time Magazine

Right. I gave Barry Murphy my number 2.

Fair enough.

melekalikimaka

good man, sure kevs a lovely guy really, he's just passionate bout the cause. possibly the 'winner' of pres might have peed the guy off to. i was there and there was some reporter acting the dick with him prevoking him and that lead onto you, he'd hear rumours of the boards bashing he recieved

Time Magazine

The dick reporter who walked away from him twice and apologised for causing him bother was me.

And if he'd like to return the notes he took from me that would be appreciated.

Search boards. I don't think I've said anything about any ents candidates, nevermind singling Murphy out.

TBH his mates were there were apologising to me for his behaviour. He took it up the wrong way. The chap clearly had a few on him and that's grand. I appreciate that, and I appreciate he wasn't happy when I told him I couldn't let him know who I was writing for.

I then told him and he still wasn't very happy. I asked the bloke what we wanted me to do and, quite frankly, he couldn't say what he wanted.

And as I said, if he'd like to return the notes that'd be nice of him.

osd

Here's some of the Photos From denise's from last night...

R

Agent Smith

and here be the Fall of trinity?

ilovemybrick

melekalikimaka wrote:

david quinn will destroy trinity...

these grapes they taste so sour. its over now. campaign teams are disbanded and all the election material has to be down by six. everybody has to accept the majority has spoken in an election that was recounted three times.

Crash

melekalikimaka wrote:

he was looking for him for bad mouthing muph's team, watch your back, your a wanted man( no joke).

yeah, Enda's the reporter and i'm the marked man - oh well. I never singled anyone out, i've talked to barry about this a number of times (and i quite like the guy) but that was a bit of a joke last night. i stepped in after he grabbed enda's collar and next thing he's in my face. Though in fairness, i'm really wondering how he knew i was "that guy from the internet" - thats some seriously impressive stalking right there

meh - like i'dve gotten involved in a fight anyhow - he's twice my size! i coulda got all my mates to hop in and it would've been a deadly buzz - deadly lads. mass scrap in the earl of kildare.


...deadly.


melekalikimaka, i was chatting to yourself outside the bathroom last night wasnt i?

ilovemybrick

melekalikimaka wrote:

watch your back, your a wanted man( no joke).

it is 4 o clock when he posted that so its just funny. its such a ridiculously childish thing to have said.

melekalikimaka

i agree kev dragged it out bit, but it was by no means unfounded. on a lighter note he was carrying those notes around in his first cursing the ground you walk on. murphs nothing to do with the whle thing in fairness to him. upon reflection it was childish, but in his own intrest i wouldnt start asking him for quotes then not telling him what your using them for a little while, that was just bent

Agent Smith

i think your all idiots....


except you melekalikimaka, you rule....

Crash

so you've explained what happened with enda - care to explain what happened with me?

melekalikimaka

agent smith wrote:

i think your all idiots....


except you melekalikimaka, you rule....

thank you smith but our young tp friend with the low jeans managed to 'console' one of the canidates...tis all very funny, especially when the guy passed out after, outside by a fire escape

Andrew 83

I have to say it's a lot easier being in that room when you're not up for election yourself!

The Presidential battle was insanely tense and tight. When it went down to 5 votes after the first recount it was unbelievable.

Fair play to both candidates. It's very unusual to see a race where one candidate is top after the first count, the other after the first set of transfers, and then the first again after the second!

ApeXaviour

Nietzschean wrote:

1) I was only shown the page with her on it, haven't read the thing cover to cover
2) I know denise, so really i'm not going to care about people i don't know...

I figured that. It's too close to home. If you were a mother who's sons name was james who's in a wheelchair, you wouldn't appreciate this joke "Little Jimmy's in a wheelchair. What did he get for christmas?

Cancer

Granted that particular article wasn't exactly stitch-burstingly funny. I'll definitely give you that. If it had been genuinely funny then maybe do you think you could grant them some reprieve under the "it's not insulting if it's funny" rule?

The latter ones if i recall correctly have only one thing to do with denise, which is where she's from, it could be a random paragraph taken from anything from what i can tell. just the locality substituted in. It wasn't comedy, those were just bizzare...

The latter paragraphs were completely random and specified they were about denise, they were nothing to be offended by. And if I'm gonna be a pedant then the former specified that it wasnt even about denise so...

i'd expect a satirical mag, to well be funny.

Did you read the rest of it? Do like.. It's not just one writer. The very last bit in small text about somebody calling into the joe duffy show to complain about pirhana is actually quite impressively written. Genius even I'd call it. Top quality humour. The writer of the section on the candidates wasn't up to par with the rest of the mag, but (s)he did shine in parts. If ya take anything from it don't be prudish and let that be offense (it's pirhana for gods sake!), if there was a bit that wasn't funny, ok so it wasn't funny and shame on them for that..

faults? you mean calling someone ugly in a mag is exploiting a fault?

Jeeze dude chill will ya. I said "apparent", this means it does not necessarily constitute my opinion, rather their twisted satirical mag opinion. So don't drag out this line of questioning as I'll chose to ignore it.

Andrew 83

osd wrote:

Here's some of the Photos From denise's from last night...

R

Hi Ross I just emailed you to the osd account if you could check it

Thirdfox

osd wrote:

Dave is ahead of Harmon by 18 votes but there's a recount!

The constitution was low key because it basically boiled down to a tiny campaign team.
I am really sorry if you didn't hear about it Thirdfox but there is only so much I could do.
Go to www.tcdsu.org/crg to find out more...
I'll do a postering campaign at least to promote the headlining changes in coming weeks!
A notable change is that any 10 students of the college (ie non-class reps) can bring motions to SU Council. Also Disability has been added to the Union's non-discrimination policy. Changes to the exec were also made.
Ross

No need to apologise... and having read the proposals I'm glad that my vote didn't count and the new constitution was passed.

A poster campaign would be great!

osd

Thirdfox wrote:

No need to apologise... and having read the proposals I'm glad that my vote didn't count and the new constitution was passed.

A poster campaign would be great!

I'll work on it over the weekend, along with a dyslexia awareness drive, disability exam registration drive and marking some exam papers...

Seriously though... Thanks for the comment. It was nerve wracking last night and can only sympathise for all the candidates. Not looking forward to next year...

PS Shane got a few votes in the referendum too... :rolleyes:

wookie0

From a counter's perspective it was an up-and down night. We stormed through the first lot. Ents was double counted so it took about 3 times as long as the shortest. That one was close.

Pres was tough. Took ages the first time, and by the time of the second recount, everyone knew the result wasn't going to change, tempers frayed, commissioners swore and shouted, but it was done.

It only remains to hear the report to council.

Crash

*giggles gleefully* that'll be funny to see.

Wookie i hope i didnt heckle you

wookie0

wookie0 wrote:

From a counter's perspective it was an up-and down night. We stormed through the first lot. Ents was double counted so it took about 3 times as long as the shortest. That one was close.

Pres was tough. Took ages the first time, and by the time of the second recount, everyone knew the result wasn't going to change, tempers frayed, commissioners swore and shouted, but it was done.

It only remains to hear the report to council.

President was incredibly tough, especially at that time of night, but I'm glad that both candidates trusted the final count to be the final result.

Nietzschean

ApeXaviour wrote:

I figured that. It's too close to home. If you were a mother who's sons name was james who's in a wheelchair, you wouldn't appreciate this joke "Little Jimmy's in a wheelchair. What did he get for christmas?

Cancer

Granted that particular article wasn't exactly stitch-burstingly funny. I'll definitely give you that. If it had been genuinely funny then maybe do you think you could grant them some reprieve under the "it's not insulting if it's funny" rule?

Erm, i wouldn't say too close to home, there was quite a few people near me when i read that who wouldn't know denise and took the exact same view, its not a satire it was just a low personal attack.

The latter paragraphs were completely random and specified they were about denise, they were nothing to be offended by. And if I'm gonna be a pedant then the former specified that it wasnt even about denise so...

The latter paragraphs were under one train of thought, and could have been a template that they filled in the words denise and skerries to, that in no way says the first paragraph was of the same logic. As i've said before, they looked like some sort of random tangent to 'make it funny' or something.

Did you read the rest of it? Do like.. It's not just one writer.

I don't have a copy, i was only shown that.

If ya take anything from it don't be prudish and let that be offense (it's pirhana for gods sake!), if there was a bit that wasn't funny, ok so it wasn't funny and shame on them for that..

What a random arguement, some other write was funny so personal attacks are all ok? it might be pirhana , but as i've said its there to make a joke out of things, not to go insulting people as was clearly that writers intention. Shame on them? what sort of editor read that n said it was ok? did he get a laugh?

And i must say that is the first time i've ever been described as prudish, and tbh i don't feel its any form of an appropriate adajative, i object to non-funny personal attacks and i'm "One who is excessively concerned with being or appearing to be proper, modest, or righteous." ??

Jeeze dude chill will ya. I said "apparent", this means it does not necessarily constitute my opinion, rather their twisted satirical mag opinion. So don't drag out this line of questioning as I'll chose to ignore it.

i wasn't referring to that sentence, and where do you get this apparent from you keep referencing? how do you know the writer didn't intend it as a personal attack as you've stated several times? its not u is it dec?

Angry Banana

Angry Banana wrote:

Dónal wouldn't help me either! :(:(

Meh, at that stage I was ready to collapse and after kicking many, many people out of the count room I wasn't about to be charitable.

"Dónal McCormack to relocate college creche down pants"

Pity they spelled my name wrong.

shay_562

these grapes they taste so sour. its over now. campaign teams are disbanded and all the election material has to be down by six. everybody has to accept the majority has spoken in an election that was recounted three times.

So that means that we can't express dissatisfaction with the results or question the relative merits of the candidates who ended up winning? Winning the election doesn't place you above reproach.

And as for Pirahna - I've gotta say that I found it funny, even though I know it's incredibly infantile and mostly relies on pure insults rather than actual 'satire'. But if you're not going to let it go under the "If it's funny, it's alright" rule, what about the fact that everyone got equally insulted in it? If they had singled out a few candidates and picked on them, that would have been pretty crappy, but the fact that they gave **** to everyone makes it at least a bit more acceptable, to me anyway.