Lifting Gloves

joejoem

My gloves have run off with some socks it seems, all odd ones too.

Anyway I was going to buy one of the pairs from Argos, has anyone bought these? Any comments on them?

Dragan

I'm not a gloves person. Then again, i don't use wraps, straps or belts either.

I just don't see the need for them at the weight i'm moving, and i don't feel any discomfort at all on most lifts. That said, as my deadlift grows i will maybe need straps for my last set soon enough.

I assume you just want to make sure the gloves are pretty thin, and fit well so as not to impeed your grip?

g'em

I use the World Gym gloves you can get from workout world and they're really comfortable- good stretch, lots of movement, secure. Never seen/ used Argos ones so can't comment on those.

Dragan wrote:

I'm not a gloves person. Then again, i don't use wraps, straps or belts either.

well I'm a big girly girl and I don't like having hands full of callouses

joejoem

g'em wrote:

well I'm a big girly girl and I don't like having hands full of callouses

Me too


I also find they give me a feeling of strenth

Ph3n0m

I bought these

http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=30001&langId=-1&catalogId=4501&productId=245132&clickfrom=name

They give me a good grip when I am doing my workout (as my hands get very sweaty during my routine), although for the size of my hands, they are a tad tight (is that good or bad?)

Dragan

Hey , i'm not trying to be tough or anything, i'm a country bumkin remember, manual labour as a child will toughen up your hands!!!

joejoem

Ph3n0m wrote:

I bought these

http://www.argos.ie/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?storeId=30001&langId=-1&catalogId=4501&productId=245132&clickfrom=name

They give me a good grip when I am doing my workout (as my hands get very sweaty during my routine), although for the size of my hands, they are a tad tight (is that good or bad?)

Thats what worries me, I was going to buy the york ones that are size 9 - 9 1/2, but I have massive hands. I'm worried that they wont fit

joejoem

Dragan wrote:

Hey , i'm not trying to be tough or anything, i'm a country bumkin remember, manual labour as a child will toughen up your hands!!!

Go shovel some shíte macho man

AngryBadger

I haven't used gloves in years. As I understand it lifting without them improves the strength of your grip, (presuming this is to do with more work being done by your wrists - can anyone confirm/deny?).

I also never use a belt these days, but then I usually only used a belt for squats when I was using it at all. Generally I focused on making sure my form was correct, that way there was no damage done, and i got maximal benefit from any lifting.

Maybe someone can shred my irresponsibility for me if I'm taking a ridiculous risk there.

Ph3n0m

joejoem wrote:

Thats what worries me, I was going to buy the york ones that are size 9 - 9 1/2, but I have massive hands. I'm worried that they wont fit

TBH, go to a sport store and see if you can try on any of their gloves - you wont know until you try them on first whether it will be comfortable or not

g'em

AngryBadger wrote:

Maybe someone can shred my irresponsibility for me if I'm taking a ridiculous risk there.

you're not don't worry!!! I used to use a belt for heavy squatting but have stopped now and concentrate on good form instead, as was advised by some of the others here and after I read up about it. And you're right about the gloves and wraps preventing wrist strength too. But for me, there's absolutely no way I'd be able to deadlift the weight I do without them, so I sacrifice wrist strength for the benefits of a heavy-assed compound lift.

zAbbo

Saw a snazzy pair of nike lifting gloves in a sports shop in liverpool recently, I was thinking if only i had them, then i'd be pro.

Would it be so wrong to wear them and just use weight machines(shoulder/chest press, lat pull down etc.)

Dragan

g'em wrote:

But for me, there's absolutely no way I'd be able to deadlift the weight I do without them, so I sacrifice wrist strength for the benefits of a heavy-assed compound lift.

Spot on, and so you should. I would place back development from a heavy deadlift over the development my grip would get anyday. If my grip can't hold it, then where's the benefit to it?

You should change your sig to "a healthy mind in a stong as hell body" by the way.

(( sorry bout that, mean in ))

joejoem

Dragan wrote:

You should change your sig to "a healthy mind is a stonger as hell body" by the way.

and then "me no speak english nice"

Patto

Yeah, bought a pair of york gloves in Arnotts last week. They were about €13. I just need them for the narrow grip (palms facing in) lat pull down. I can't do more that 5 reps after the first set of 8 before my fingers start killing me. I end up doing one set of 8 and 4 sets of 4. Is this a bad idea?:o I also have large hands (size 11 in football gloves). The pair I bought were XL they fit but are a little tight. The fingers could do with being 1/2 a cm longer and the black dye runs a little when you sweat (I assume thats because they are new). Overall for €13 they were just about worth the purchace.

because_I_can

gloves and belts are the worst things ever brought into a gym.

if your hands or lower back arent strong enough to lift a certain weight maybe thats telling you something.

straps are ok sometimes

g'em

sorry, posted twice. see below.

g'em

because_I_can wrote:

gloves and belts are the worst things ever brought into a gym.

if your hands or lower back arent strong enough to lift a certain weight maybe thats telling you something.

straps are ok sometimes

absolute rubbish as far as gloves and wraps are concerned

while I wouldn't advocate using gloves and straps all the time, they have their place for heavy lifting when used properly. For aesthetic reasons I use straps or gloves to protect my hands for certain exercises as I don't want my hands to get ripped to shreds and develop unsightly callouses. I'm not going to apologise for that, I like having feminine hands.

Like most women I don't have particulalry strong wrists. I have however, through hard work and determination, developed a very strong back. I would not have been able to dvelop this strength without the aid of straps to allow me to lift extremely heavy weight for someone of my size and sex.

Dragan

because_I_can wrote:

gloves and belts are the worst things ever brought into a gym.

if your hands or lower back arent strong enough to lift a certain weight maybe thats telling you something.

straps are ok sometimes

I find it funny that you knock gloves for one thing, but say that straps are acceptable when do the the same thing, maybe even provide more of a benefit to holding a weight than gloves???

Patto

because_I_can wrote:

gloves and belts are the worst things ever brought into a gym.

if your hands or lower back arent strong enough to lift a certain weight maybe thats telling you something.

straps are ok sometimes

If your hands are not strong enough it means you hands are weak relative to the primary muscles being worked. I don't see the harm in using gloves to allow you the comfort to get a few more reps in as long as your form is ok. How else are you going to target the primary muscles? Your hands will adapt in time anyway.

because_I_can

g'em wrote:

absolute rubbish as far as gloves and wraps are concerned

while I wouldn't advocate using gloves and straps all the time, they have their place for heavy lifting when used properly. For aesthetic reasons I use straps or gloves to protect my hands for certain exercises as I don't want my hands to get ripped to shreds and develop unsightly callouses. I'm not going to apologise for that, I like having feminine hands.

Like most women I don't have particulalry strong wrists. I have however, through hard work and determination, developed a very strong back. I would not have been able to dvelop this strength without the aid of straps to allow me to lift extremely heavy weight for someone of my size and sex. The reasoning behind why I want such a strong back is two-fold- 1) I want to improve my posture and strengthen the muscles that cushion my back, reduce the risk of osteoporosis later in life... the general health benefits are numerous 2) as a scuba instructor I regulalry carry very heavy gear on my back which I do not have to lift using my wrists, I sit into it in the water and it gets carried like a backpack, therefore wrist strength is not part of the equation.

maybe you will read a post before you start typing?

where did i mention wraps?
you'll also find that i said straps are ok sometimes which you also said.
other than that you're gone off on a tangent

because_I_can

Dragan wrote:

I find it funny that you knock gloves for one thing, but say that straps are acceptable when do the the same thing, maybe even provide more of a benefit to holding a weight than gloves???

nothing funny about it at all.
Use straps occasionally when going for heavy sets.
But only occasionally. Whats the point your legs and back getting ahead of your grip/forearms? You're only as strong as your weakest link.


And as for the idea of gloves helping you at all. Well thats just a myth. They'll add not a single ounce onto your 1rm. Its called a placebo!! A pair of sunglasses might be a better help

g'em

because_I_can wrote:

maybe you will read a post before you start typing?

where did i mention wraps?
you'll also find that i said straps are ok sometimes which you also said.
other than that you're gone off on a tangent

would a packet of sweets help curb that tantrum you're throwing?

because_I_can wrote:

And as for the idea of gloves helping you at all. Well thats just a myth

why so? I know plenty of people who suffer from very sweaty hands who like to use gloves to help their grip. Nothing to do with lack of strength.

Dragan

because_I_can wrote:

straps are ok sometimes

And that is what Gem is talking about. In case you are unsure as to our interpretation of straps then you can just click the below. Wow, G'em messed up and called them wraps, which many other people also call them. Lots of people do little more than just wrap some cloth between the second to last knuckle and the palm of the hand. chill out.

http://www.net2fitness.com/weight_lifting_straps.htm

Once again, just wondering why you would rate straps/wraps over gloves? Any particular reason, have you noticed then can take less from the grip in your own training?

BrianD3

I lift quite heavy weights and never use gloves, yet there's no sign of my hands getting "ripped to shreds" or calloused. Also do weighted chin ups out of a rough wooden rafter, if anything should tear the skin that should. All I get is a very slight roughness on the skin where I grip the bar it's not even noticable.

because_I_can

here lady you did jump on me first. i didnt mean to use size 6, just wanted to bold it.

of course gloves take away from your grip.
I dont know why you're all giving out to me. You'd swear you were all gods or something?

g'em

BrianD3 wrote:

I lift quite heavy weights and never use gloves, yet there's no sign of my hands getting "ripped to shreds" or calloused. Also do weighted chin ups out of a rough wooden rafter, if anything should tear the skin that should. All I get is a very slight roughness on the skin where I grip the bar it's not even noticable.

well, each to their own. But I still stand by using gloves and wraps/ straps, whatever you want to call them, when they're needed.

because I can wrote:

here lady you did jump on me first. i didnt mean to use size 6, just wanted to bold it.

of course gloves take away from your grip.
I dont know why you're all giving out to me. You'd swear you were all gods or something?

please don't take that tone with me. your post came across as abusive. And we're not giving out, its a difference of opinion. Chill out.

Dragan

Crikey, i'm not giving out to you at all, i'm asking why you rate straps over gloves for the "sometimes" that you referred to in your post is all.

And of course gloves detract from your grip, so do straps but why do you prefer straps, is it just the feel of it or what dude???? I'm just asking a question here.

joejoem

BrianD3 wrote:

I lift quite heavy weights and never use gloves, yet there's no sign of my hands getting "ripped to shreds" or calloused. Also do weighted chin ups out of a rough wooden rafter, if anything should tear the skin that should. All I get is a very slight roughness on the skin where I grip the bar it's not even noticable.

Different folks different strokes. I did kayaking for years and developed huge calouses as a result. I didnt use gloves in the gym before and developed the calouses again, peoples hands react differently.

Patto

g'em wrote:

would a packet of sweets help curb that tantrum you're throwing?


why so? I know plenty of people who suffer from very sweaty hands who like to use gloves to help their grip. Nothing to do with lack of strength.

Sounds like he hasn't got laid in six months:eek: And his hair is falling out:v: Man, I'd be mad too:rolleyes:

g'em

Patto wrote:

Sounds like he hasn't got laid in six months:eek: And his hair is falling out:v: Man, I'd be mad too:rolleyes:

I love it...

because_I_can

im an olympic lifter. gloves cant help in a clean or snatch. short straps can.

straps can help progress your grip in clean deads or clean snatches.

To me gloves are Bodybuilding domain and i detest that passtime.

because_I_can

Ha Ha Ha.
I've been had so bad here.

joejoem

This is what happens when its quiet in the fitness forum......

All that testosterone, and nowhere to use it....

g'em

because_I_can wrote:

im an olympic lifter. gloves cant help in a clean or snatch. short straps can.

straps can help progress your grip in clean deads or clean snatches.

To me gloves are Bodybuilding domain and i detest that passtime.

well by that thinking there's plenty of BB's here so you'll detest the lot of us. Please give all posters here the respect they deserve.

take some advice from your own post...

because I can wrote:

Anything you'd like to say? : no. i hate talking

Dragan

because_I_can wrote:

im an olympic lifter. gloves cant help in a clean or snatch. short straps can.

straps can help progress your grip in clean deads or clean snatches.

Thanks for finally answering my question. and i definitely agree with you about the gloves not helping with cleans.

because_I_can wrote:

To me gloves are Bodybuilding domain and i detest that passtime.

To be honest dude, you shouldn't really be detesting anything. I know and have trained with many "powerlifters" and i know and have trained with many "bodybuilders" everyone seems to get one okay if you ask me.

because_I_can

i didnt say i hate bodybuilders. i said bodybuilding.

g'em

because_I_can wrote:

i didnt say i hate bodybuilders. i said bodybuilding.

so you don't hate us, just what we do???!??

Dragan

because_I_can wrote:

i didnt say i hate bodybuilders. i said bodybuilding.

Dude, you can't really knock someone's favourite passtime and expect them not to get a little bit annoyed about it.

Lets just let things tapper of here before poor Jak has to end up barring have the forum users..... maybe start a different thread if you want the old bodybuilding vs powerlifting debate (( both of which are beaten by strongman and grip training anway !!! ))

g'em

Dragan wrote:

Lets just let things tapper of here before poor Jak has to end up barring have the forum users.....

you've taken all the fun out of it now...

Dragan

Yeah i know, but i like talking to all you guys on a daily, wouldn't like to see people being put on time out if things get too personnal.

g'em

ah ye big softie!!!!

amazingemmet

Missed all this, there's only one way to settle it, its very manly so g'em you can be an honorary man for it (you do deadlift like one), Pistols at dawn for the honour of accessories or with out.

As for the whole grip thing personally i find grip one of the easiest things to build up so unless your going for record breaking lifts give it a bit of training 3 days a week and it'll catch up in no time. Another trick for grip is to use rosin instead of chalk it'll give you just a bit more of an edge.

As for callouses get a pumice stone and sand em down when your in the bath bit of moisturiser and you'll (joejoem) be the belle of the ball.

because_I_can

ok, so whats the story with everyone being so obnoxious here?

amazingemmet

because_I_can wrote:

ok, so whats the story with everyone being so obnoxious here?

Build up of test and doing the manly thing of competing for the only womans attention. Seriously you just got the wrong idea everys nice here. :v: especially Dragan he's a big softy

Dragan

amazingemmet wrote:

especially Dragan he's a big softy

No i'm not. I'm harder than a hard thing me.

g'em

amazingemmet wrote:

Missed all this, there's only one way to settle it, its very manly so g'em you can be an honorary man for it (you do deadlift like one)

I'm taking this as a compliment... I think...

And..

because I can wrote:

so whats the story with everyone being so obnoxious here?

..we're not, but when you make comments like 'I detest bodybuilding' in a Fitness forum that's predominated by lifters it doesn't exactly win you any friends!! There's people from all sorts of athletic backgrounds around here, and so you can't go around saying you hate one method of training over another. You just came across kind of aggressively in some of your posts, and then to further go on and call us 'obnoxious'... it's not the nicest way to present your argument on a public forum really :rolleyes:

no offense was intended towards you, but just maybe take a little care before you start to slag off your fellow posters?

g'em

amazingemmet wrote:

Build up of test and doing the manly thing of competing for the only womans attention.

ah so NOW I'm a woman again am I?

or did you just mean joejoem and his soft girly hands?

Dragan wrote:

No i'm not. I'm harder than a hard thing me.

Pfft. you're one big lump of softness, in a teddy-bear-Ronnie-Coleman kind of way

joejoem

g'em wrote:

ah so NOW I'm a woman again am I?

or did you just mean joejoem and his soft girly hands?


Pfft. you're one big lump of softness, in a teddy-bear-Ronnie-Coleman kind of way

ok, now everyone is offended :mad:


kidding, I'm proud to be pretty

amazingemmet

I'm not gonna answer this as i think joejoem is in the army and might shoot me if i do

because_I_can

g'em wrote:

just maybe take a little care before you start to slag off your fellow posters?

people in glass houses....

g'em wrote:

absolute rubbish

i think the above is fairly provocative especially when you then went on and agreed with my point about straps?? It seems like you jumped on me out of habit / need to be better.