Muslim cartoon

MarinoMark

Where can I view this muslim cartoon that is causing mayhem in the muslim world..Believe me I have looked...anyone got a link...Thanks...M

Basq

Take your pick..!

The one with the bomb in the hat seems to be the most prominantly referenced!

MarinoMark

thanks....M

Oriel

The only next step is to dress somebody up as Mo and get him to take part in a porno...

JohnCleary

Whats the big deal?

Oriel

JohnCleary wrote:

Whats the big deal?

I guess it's the same as some dirty greasy Iraqi bastard drawing a picture of Jesus being f***ed in the ass by Osama Bin Laden.

Pinch of salt, and all that...

JohnCleary

sinecurea wrote:

I guess it's the same as some dirty greasy Iraqi bastard drawing a picture of Jesus being f***ed in the ass by Osama Bin Laden.

Pinch of salt, and all that...

Don't think you'd see the pope offering someone $20,000 to kill the author though

Piste

There's a Muslim Imam offering $20,000 to kill the cartoonist(s)?

Supercell

Piste wrote:

There's a Muslim Imam offering $20,000 to kill the cartoonist(s)?

He's offering this to kill the cartoonist (seems to be unaware there are several cartoon drawers).

The Muslim faith is done no favors by this idiocy.

David19

In the paper today it said there's a £1 million($2 million) bounty on his head from a Pakistani cleric.

Sam Vimes

David19 wrote:

In the paper today it said there's a £1 million($2 million) bounty on his head from a Pakistani cleric.

i can't quite get the point of being violent to protest a cartoon showing mohammad as violent

Gary ITR

>>>just for the folks who haven't seen this in the humour section

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2054891117

Supercell

Cool sig, -1 for the linky tho.

Ivan

Commander Vimes wrote:

i can't quite get the point of being violent to protest a cartoon showing mohammad as violent

You sir, are a genius. What a beautiful and inescapable point.

Terry

i saw a picture somewhere (i'll link if i can remember where) of someone at one of the london protests. he had a banner saying that "a war on terror is a war on islam". thought it was pretty funny.

has anyone actually seen any women at these protests?
just wondering because i haven't.

Ri_Nollaig

Commander Vimes wrote:

i can't quite get the point of being violent to protest a cartoon showing mohammad as violent

that really does just sum it all up

julep wrote:

i saw a picture somewhere (i'll link if i can remember where) of someone at one of the london protests. he had a banner saying that "a war on terror is a war on islam". thought it was pretty funny.

has anyone actually seen any women at these protests?
just wondering because i haven't.

i saw one of the protestors in london dressed up a sucide bomber on sky news
cause thats smart... would have been much funnier if he did it in isreal :v:

ChicoMendez

its a little uncalled for to attack hitler and anne frank ey?

http://www.themuhammadcartoons.com/

Kojak

sinecurea wrote:

The only next step is to dress somebody up as Mo and get him to take part in a porno...

Jesus, that would go down well. :rolleyes:

HelterSkelter

julep wrote:

has anyone actually seen any women at these protests?
just wondering because i haven't.

Yup, there were pleanty of women. They interviewed some of them on BBC news. What protest were you looking at?

robinph

They are mostly annoyed with the fact that someone dared to draw a picture that is suposedly of Mohammed aren't they?

He's supposed to be so perfect that it would be impossible for anyone to draw him, or something along those lines from a dodgy translation of one line from the koran which different branches of Islam take to mean different things.

popinfresh

lol tbh.

HelterSkelter

robinph wrote:

They are mostly annoyed with the fact that someone dared to draw a picture that is suposedly of Mohammed aren't they?

Nope, there are pleanty of drawings of Mohammed around and nobody bats an eyelid. The reason they are annoyed is the particular cartoon was suggesting that muslims are terrorists and Islam is a terrorist religion.

robinph wrote:

He's supposed to be so perfect that it would be impossible for anyone to draw him, or something along those lines from a dodgy translation of one line from the koran which different branches of Islam take to mean different things.

I'm told the reason they are not allowed to draw him (or God) is it encourges people to worship idols (photos, statues, etc).

ravenhead

It's complete madness, & they can't understand why most of the world conciders them terrorists,they're not doing anything to help change peoples view of them

HelterSkelter

ravenhead wrote:

It's complete madness, & they can't understand why most of the world conciders them terrorists,they're not doing anything to help change peoples view of them

Cop on would ya. Going by your logic all Christians are terrorists because George Bush killed so many people in Iraq, and he's a Christian.

robinph

I'd be more inclined to belive that there was justification in them being p*ssed off with the cartoons if they had started complaining about them 6 months ago when they were actually published though, and there was only a couple of the pictures that were ever published in the Danish papers. The rest have only come about after they have started complaing about them.

Binomate

I'm offering a prize of €2,000 for anyone who kills someone who offers a reward for the death of the cartoonist.

Terry

HelterSkelter wrote:

Yup, there were pleanty of women. They interviewed some of them on BBC news. What protest were you looking at?

haven't seen much on the tv news, mostly pictures in the papers. didn't see any women in the pictures i saw. i'm not saying there were not women present, just asking if they were there.

shuushh

I'm offering a prize of €2,000 for anyone who kills someone who offers a reward for the death of the cartoonist.

Indian minister said offering $10m for beheading cartoonist
By Haaretz Service
Last update - 08:38 19/02/2006

An Indian state minister has offered a reward of more than $10 million and a prospective killer's weight in gold to anyone who beheads one of the cartoonists who angered Muslims by depcting the Prophet Mohammed in a Danish newspaper, the London Sunday Times reported this week.

The offer follows a Pakistani cleric's reward of $1 million and a car for the killing of one of the cartoonists.

The new, larger reward was announced by Yaqoob Qureshi, minister of minority welfare in the Indian state of Uttar Pradesh, in a speech to constituents in Meerit, northeast of Delhi.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1581571/posts

your gonna have to up that offer a bit i think binomate

Binomate

shuushh wrote:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1581571/posts

your gonna have to up that offer a bit i think binomate

Fair enough. €2 million and sure I'll throw in a free muhammed t-shirt as well. I'm planning on winning the euromillions you see, so I can afford this. The head of the death wisher should be presented to me on a silver plate, prefferably with an apple in his/her mouth.

Sauron

robinph wrote:

I'd be more inclined to belive that there was justification in them being p*ssed off with the cartoons if they had started complaining about them 6 months ago when they were actually published though, and there was only a couple of the pictures that were ever published in the Danish papers. The rest have only come about after they have started complaing about them.

Apparently they did complain initially... but they were effectively ignored. When they were republished in other countries, that's when it all kicked off..

I think one of the main reasons they were published was that some Danish person (not exactly sure who, but obviously someone relatively prominent) was assasinated by terrorists. I think I read it somewhere anyway, not 100% sure.

Muslims, on the whole are uber-sensitive about their religion. In fairness, I believe the one showing mohammad with a bomb on his turban should have never appeared; the religion is, at the most fundamental level, a peaceful one.

It's just that it's very, very strict, and anyone insulting it, especially westerners, would really anger them.

How it came to be that there has been such a dramatic and somewhat violent reaction (i.e: to the extent that anything associated with Denmark is banned), I'll never know.

It's mad , when you put it in a wider perspective, it's a bloody cartoon, by a small number of random journalists. But maybe a lot of it is who made them.

For example, we may be able to slag ourselves, and take the piss out of Irish society, but then if a group of English Journalists published cartoons portraying Irish people as complete drunks among other things, and talked about free speech, we might get pretty pissed off. Obviously not to a huge extent, but it makes you think.

Binomate

Sauron wrote:

For example, we may be able to slag ourselves, and take the piss out of Irish society, but then if a group of English Journalists published cartoons portraying Irish people as complete drunks among other things, and talked about free speech, we might get pretty pissed off. Obviously not to a huge extent, but it makes you think.

You mean the way the Simpsons and Family Guy have done so? Or Father Ted?

Sauron

Binomate wrote:

You mean the way the Simpsons and Family Guy have done so? Or Father Ted?

First of all,

Father Ted = Irish
Family Guy, (Seth MacFarlane) = Irish catholic

I realise that it's a rough connection with the American shows, but on the one hand, you could say that we've become so "westernised", that these shows, sort of fit in with our culture, so they aren't so foreign.

On the other, we don't exactly have any sort of Predjudice against the shows or the creators of the shows, i.e., we don't really have many negative feelings towards Matt Groening, or Seth MacFarlane. Most of us think they're pretty damn funny, so we respect them... and they do rip the piss out of american culture too.

And, there is a profoundly anti-western sentiment in countries like Saudi Arabia. Who worse to be insulted by than those who you view as below you?

I was just trying to alter the view point a bit, I still think it's insane to react so violently.

InFront

robinph wrote:

They are mostly annoyed with the fact that someone dared to draw a picture that is suposedly of Mohammed aren't they?

no:rolleyes: most people are annoyed about the depiction of islam, while nobody likes it, the drawing of Muhammad is not the bigger concern here, it's the insinuations that are made by these cartoons that is causing most people to protest.

robinph

This page seems to give a run down of what happened when:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4708216.stm

BBC News wrote:

On 17 October, a curious thing happened. Six of the cartoons were prominently reprinted in an Egyptian newspaper, al-Fagr. The paper said they were racist and would insult Muslims everywhere and predicted an outcry. However, at this stage, nothing happened on the streets. There was no public outcry.

But then someone added a photo of the winner of a pig-squealing contest from France to the collection of cartoons and it all started to kick off properly then.

Hagar

An Indian state minister has offered a reward of more than $10 million and a prospective killer's weight in gold

Bathtubgirl FTW

@ Infront I like your sig. Who's the other one?

*Tripper*

I thought it was ment to be a picture off someone taking a hit off a bong?????

Capt'n Midnight

robinph wrote:

This page seems to give a run down of what happened when:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4708216.stm



But then someone added a photo of the winner of a pig-squealing contest from France to the collection of cartoons and it all started to kick off properly then.

The 'non-cartoons'

The three extra drawings were said to have been sent to Muslims in Denmark as insults. However one of them, apparently showing the prophet with the face of a pig, has been traced to a photo of the winner of a pig-squealing contest in the French Pyrenees last summer.

It remains unclear as to how this last picture, a grey photocopy, came to such prominence but it does seem to have played a role in the raising of the temperature.


The crisis has exposed the fragility of relations between the West and Muslim countries
The delegation spokesman, Ahmed Akkari, said they pointed out the status of the different pictures on their travels but the "pigface" photocopy was later filmed in Gaza at the end of January when gunmen took over EU offices, and s

It would be interesting to find out who associated that picture with the others. As that could be the real incitement rather than the original ones that seemed to have passed with too much notice before.

Binomate

I've just been threathned with a lawsuit from some angry muslim because I have one of the cartoons hosted on my college webspace linked to my blog, LOL! I don't think I'll be removing it any time soon.

Terry

Sauron wrote:

Family Guy, (Seth MacFarlane) = Irish catholic

no. seth mcfarlane is american. he's about as Irish as margaret thatcher.

Indian minister said offering $10m for beheading cartoonist

exactly what i would expect of a peaceful and benevolent religion. [/sarcasm]

i don't know if anyone has seen it, but there is a filler show on the paramount comedy channel. it has these two english guys walking the streets and offering £1 for a good joke.
two of the jokes shown are completely racist because they make the Irish people out to be complete idiots. they have been airing for well over a year now and if enough people complained, they wouldn't be shown again.
i couldn't give a damn about them though. for one, they are crap jokes and secondly, they really make those telling them look stupid.
i don't see Irish people going to ballsbridge and burning down the british embassey over them though.

one last thing. i'll start taking these so called peaceful muslims seriously when they protest outside the palestinian embassies the next time a suicide bomber kills israeli's in the name of islam.

HelterSkelter

julep wrote:

haven't seen much on the tv news, mostly pictures in the papers. didn't see any women in the pictures i saw. i'm not saying there were not women present, just asking if they were there.

Well I happen to know two women who were at the protest. I also saw the coverage on BBC News 24 and they interviewed two women and a couple of men. What is your point anyway?

Binomate

Kudos to the guy threathning to sue me. He has procededin getting my account disabled. Can't wait to get it back up again since hosting the images was perfectly legal and in accordance with the rules of my colleges hosting policy.

robinph

The Times has a report on how the Catholics are now all starting to kick off in retaliation to Tom Hanks new film:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,22369-2049788,00.html

:v: :v:

madrab

Kojak wrote:

Jesus, that would go down well. :rolleyes:

jesus going down on muhammed?

interesting idea

Terry

HelterSkelter wrote:

Well I happen to know two women who were at the protest. I also saw the coverage on BBC News 24 and they interviewed two women and a couple of men. What is your point anyway?

no point really. just wondering if there were any women there.

ravenhead

HelterSkelter wrote:

Cop on would ya. Going by your logic all Christians are terrorists because George Bush killed so many people in Iraq, and he's a Christian.

???? How do you make that out? I said that they weren't doing themselves any favours by offering rewards to kill people?????

HelterSkelter

ravenhead wrote:

???? How do you make that out? I said that they weren't doing themselves any favours by offering rewards to kill people?????

You said

they can't understand why most of the world conciders them terrorists,they're not doing anything to help change peoples view of them

My point is just because one person of a particular religion does something wrong/crazy it doesn't mean every one in that religion is the same.

From the times article robinph linked to above

A Lyons priest today offered half a million euros and a top-of-the-line Toyota as a reward to anyone who killed Dan Brown or any executive of the Da Vinci Code publishers, Jonathan Cape. Speaking to a 1,000-strong crowd gathered after Mass outside the church of St Marie-la-Vierge, Fr Jules Monbiot announced that the offer was “a unanimous decision by all bishops that whoever insults the one true Church deserves to be killed, and whoever will take this insulting man to his end will get this prize”.

This doesn't mean all Christians are murderers no more than all muslims are murderers (or terrorists) just because a couple of crazy clerics call for the killing of the cartoonist.

ravenhead

HelterSkelter wrote:

You said


My point is just because one person of a particular religion does something wrong/crazy it doesn't mean every one in that religion is the same.

From the times article robinph linked to above


This doesn't mean all Christians are murderers no more than all muslims are murderers (or terrorists) just because a couple of crazy clerics call for the killing of the cartoonist.

Very good point, I have to completely agree with you, What I can't understand is that some Islamic people can't see why the world has this view of them. As you know Islamic people are protrayed a certain way in the media. What 'm saying is that they have done very little to change the way that they are being protrayed. I mean if the protests had been peaceful it would have shown them in a different light & maybe people would listen to them but speaking for myself I know that when I see scenes like that I the news I turn over because it's just another voilent Islamic thing, the same way that when all the troubles were going on up the north I turned over when it was on the news because I had seen it all before & there was nothing new ab out it, It's only since things calmed down a bit that i've listen to what's going on, there's just so much voilence you can look at in the news before people just turn over ... if their leaders had addressed this properly people would have listened

Terry

i can't be 100% sure, but i have a sneaking suspicion that the article was a bit satirical. just a bit.

HelterSkelter

ravenhead wrote:

Very good point, I have to completely agree with you, What I can't understand is that some Islamic people can't see why the world has this view of them. As you know Islamic people are protrayed a certain way in the media. What 'm saying is that they have done very little to change the way that they are being protrayed. I mean if the protests had been peaceful it would have shown them in a different light & maybe people would listen to them but speaking for myself I know that when I see scenes like that I the news I turn over because it's just another voilent Islamic thing

The thing is the media always focus in on any violence that Muslims are involved in. The protest in London was a peaceful protest, and apart from protesting about the cartoons another reason it was held was to protest against the Muslims who were involved in violent protests in other parts of the world. That protest didn't get a whole lot of media coverage. There are 1.6 million Muslims living in the UK. If it really was a violent religion I'm sure there would be a lot more trouble there and would be on Sky News every night.

HelterSkelter

julep wrote:

i can't be 100% sure, but i have a sneaking suspicion that the article was a bit satirical. just a bit.

Oops, that just destroyed part of my argument!

ravenhead

julep wrote:

i can't be 100% sure, but i have a sneaking suspicion that the article was a bit satirical. just a bit.

Yeah helterskelter!!!! Have you a better arguement than this???