ITV 3 &4 removed from ROI EPG

jabarrett35

I just noticed that ITV 3 & 4 have been removed from the ROI epg does anyone know why? I assume money may be a reason.

Aquos76

I have also just noticed this. Some how I cant see UTV appearing on the EPG now

Chong

This is annoying very annoying what the hell are sky at.

Mossy Monk

wtf. why remove them now? tbh nothing really surprises me about this sham that is the RoI EPG. is ITV3 still on the ntl EPG?

TVDX

It looks like they have taken advantage of our comfort zone.
When ITV 4 was added to the line up, it was a surprise(ITV 3 had only arrived in place of PLUS) and many on the boards believed it might not last.
It looks like they were right.

Maybe ITV refused to pay for EPG placement in Ireland or perhaps TV3 had them removed through court action.
Either way, this is very strange and the Sky platform has taken two steps backwards in Ireland.

FREEBBC

get a NI sky card or bid a freesat card on Ebay

Aquos76

FREEBBC wrote:

get a NI sky card

Thanks for your input there freebbc

Mossy Monk

FREEBBC wrote:

get a NI sky card or bid a freesat card on Ebay

wow, is it as simple as that to get the Sky+ recording on these channels back

Charles Slane

Mossy Monk wrote:

wow, is it as simple as that to get the Sky+ recording on these channels back

A freesat card won't get Sky+ recording facilities.

why have they been taken off ?? i'll miss Due South now tonight :mad:

Gregor Samsa

Charles Slane wrote:

A freesat card won't get Sky+ recording facilities.

I think you need to re-calibrate your sarcasm detector.

Mayo Exile

why have they been taken off ?? i'll miss Due South now tonight

No you won't. They are FTA anyway. Tune them in as "other channels" on a Digibox using the above Charles Slane's guide available at:

http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=318569

channelsurfer

well that decides it then. I was gonna ring sky and cancel as My half price comeback to sky offer is over on feb 28th and with the 30 days notice thingy I will be ringing them and re inserting my uk ftv card.. so long sly. It is a bad move on their behalf.

Charles Slane

Hmmm... there are big things happening at the moment with the sale of CanWest's TV3 shares.

TV3 are taking court action against ITV for going Free to Air (even though they are part-owned by ITV. Maybe they've pushed ITV to remove them (how, I don't know).

Maybe ITV weren't aware they were even on the Irish EPG and have just looked at the bill (stranger things have happened).

Maybe ITV are expecting to take full control of TV3. In which case TV3 would effectively become ITV Ireland and ITV2, 3 and 4 might be added to the EPG in a few weeks in a blaze of publicity and cross-promotion.

Maybe UTV have forced their hand. UTV are also in with shout for the CanWest shares. If ITV don't buy the CanWest shares they have to offer them for sale, in which case UTV could buy all the shares and TV3 would effectively become UTV South. UTV don't really have anything to gain by ITV 2, 3,and 4 being on the EPG (they're owned by ITV).

The possible combinations of the outcome of the CanWest sale are many and varied, but all of them have implications for the availability of any of the ITV channels on the Irish EPG.

Interestingly UTV also own TalkSport and it went free-to-air yesterday for the first time.

Things are happening in the backkground which will affect what channels we see and what programmes we see on them.

Interesting times.....

Charles Slane

phutyle wrote:

I think you need to re-calibrate your sarcasm detector.

I got it okay, I just thought some people who know less about it might not have understood.

Gonzo

well thats fekin bs, thats after really annoying me now

Gregor Samsa

hellboy99 wrote:

why have they been taken off ?? i'll miss Due South now tonight :mad:

You can tune them in so they're available in Other Channels. You'll miss out on a lot of features (Sky+, personal planner, etc), but at least you'll be able to view them.

ITV 3: 10906V SR 22000 FEC 5/6
ITV 4: 10758V SR 22000 FEC 5/6

Full instructions here: http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=318569

watty

It makes FTA PVR boxes (With satellite tuners, not the analog kind in currys) and FTA receivers look attractive for those spare connections on a Sky+ LNB

channelsurfer

well just cancelled. she asked why and I told her it was because they removed itv3 and 4 and my half price offer was up. she spent nearly 10 minutes offering me everything except half price so when she finally asked again did I really want to cancel I said yes seeing as sky had removed itv3 and 4 without any notice..

ShaneOC

Ah bugger!

Wonder what will happen with my new favourites setting though. I had ITV3 and ITV4 as favourites. Will have to check if they appear now when I select TV guide and press the blue button.

djpaul

Anyone call sky for an explaination?? (I know, might be worth a try) Damn, can't sky + dave letterman:mad:

Mossy Monk

wonder no more as they are gone from that too

ITV 3 and 4 gone from the favourites menu that is

Johnny Storm

djpaul wrote:

Anyone call sky for an explaination?? (I know, might be worth a try) Damn, can't sky + dave letterman:mad:

I just phoned them and the automated system said I would be waiting about 18 mins to speak to a sub-human so I am venting my spleen here instead.
:v:

channelsurfer

maybe canwest are using their muscle and getting back at granada/itv for going fta or not buying their stake in tv3. I would imagine behind the scenes there is very bad feeling between the two of them.

Tony

i'm finding it hard to understand why guys are upset over this as ITV no longer pay for an EPG placement so it was to be expected that this would happen at some point

Charles Slane

Curiouser and curiouser ...

From today's Irish Times TV Listings -

"HTV - The Irish Times can no longer list HTV programming as ITV plc advise that certain ITV Regional Variations will only be made available to UK publications."

Looks like somebody is playing hardball !!!

andrew3

Im gonna cancel my half price sub too and tell them its cause of loosing itv 3+4 --- I thought EU law states that any satellite reciever must have the capability of tuning in FTA channels! -Its high time that sky learnt that its other channels function is not inline with EU law.

DMC

Charles Slane wrote:

From today's Irish Times TV Listings -

"HTV - The Irish Times can no longer list HTV programming as ITV plc advise that certain ITV Regional Variations will only be made available to UK publications."

WTF??

Gregor Samsa

andrew3 wrote:

Im gonna cancel my half price sub too and tell them its cause of loosing itv 3+4 --- I thought EU law states that any satellite reciever must have the capability of tuning in FTA channels!

You can still tune them in. They're just not on the EPG.

bazzer

Charles Slane wrote:

Curiouser and curiouser ...

From today's Irish Times TV Listings -

"HTV - The Irish Times can no longer list HTV programming as ITV plc advise that certain ITV Regional Variations will only be made available to UK publications."

Looks like somebody is playing hardball !!!

AHA! This might explain why listings for ITV 2 and 3 have also disappeared from the Metro newspaper!

DMC

phutyle wrote:

You can still tune them in. They're just not on the EPG.

As pointed out earlier, a severe inconvience to those with Sky+.

DMC

A call to Sky early in the morning will occur, me feels. Queues before 9am are normally non existant. 0818 719 819.

DMC

Just thinking of this some more.... I think this is the groundwork for ITV's complete takeover of TV3....

channelsurfer

Tony wrote:

i'm finding it hard to understand why guys are upset over this as ITV no longer pay for an EPG placement so it was to be expected that this would happen at some point

if this is the case then why havent they been removed from the uk epg as they are not must carry public service channels? only itv1 comes close to that.

andrew3

If we get a few cancellations we'll get the "negotiations speeded up" say stuff like the cable companys offering more! -Its a bit ridiculous to have this have cast system! - Its dearer than NTL and it doesn't have Channel 4! -- The output from the terrestrials is very good lately - nice to see they're finally getting their acts together! --

NTL could beat them if they just got a decent developer in on their EPG!

Execelent move

I shall be phoning tomorroww to cancel my sky subscription and citing this as an excuse...

byte

It really is a strange move. I had expected ITV4 not to stay, especially with Champions League games coming up, but ITV3 was less important.

I was more surprised with the Irish Times/HTV article! That WAS very strange!

I guess we'll see some major changes on TV over 2006, especially ITV and (I)TV3.

Charles Slane

If ITV end up with sole ownership of TV3, it's quite possible that they'd put an ITV1 region other than UTV (say.. ITV London) and ITV2, 3 and 4 onto the Irish EPG. That would severely scupper UTV's southern expansion plans.

Gonzo

if ITV end up owning TV3 they will prolly rebrand it with the ITV corporate identity just like the other proper ITV channels and just have Irish opt outs for news or local programmes, perhaps naming it ITV1 Ireland. UTV would still be its own seperate region. but that may never happen.

parents rang me up saying wheres ITV 3... its all my dad watched for all those crime drama's and movies and he's well annoyed.

Leesider

I just waited 20 minutes to talk to a muppet called Scott at Sky's customer service.

I asked him why I had lost 2 of my channels. He asked which ones, and when I replied, he had a prepared statement:

'ITV asked Sky to withdraw ITV3 & ITV4 from the ROI EPG earlier today. Any further queries should be directed to ITV'.

I asked to speak to his supervisor, and he relied that he'd only tell me the exact same thing, as they had lots of calls on the issue.

On a separate note, Ireland on Sundays listing magazine has dropped ITV 2 and ITV3 listings for several weeks, with a note stating 'ITV2 & 3 are no longer able to proved listings'.

Something's rotten in the state of ITV/TV3/UTV..........

What sort of people represent Sky and sales in ROI? Have they any balls (or brains??)

JohnC.

Why are some people blaming Sky for this? Seems like some people want Sky to keep the ITVs on the EPG even though ITV asked for them to be removed. Which would be silly. They are ITVs channels, not Skys. Sky can't arbitrarily decide to keep them after being told to remove them by the owners.

If you wish to complain, complain to ITV.

byte

I'd say these matters are outside the control of Sky's Irish representatives at the moment. The removal probably surprised them as much as everyone else!

Has anyone complained to ITV plc yet?

DMC

More people blame Sky, as they are the keyholders to the EPG, and make the distiction between a UK and Irish EPG, which allow ITV to make decisions like this.

I note Men and Motors is still there.

Mossy Monk

Kahless wrote:

If you wish to complain, complain to ITV.

yes this is true but the issue with Sky goes further than this. why isnt the subscription money being spent on providing these channels, the extra bbc's, Channel 4 and so on. Irish viewers are quite simply some extra revenue for Sky and nothing more

watty

Kahless wrote:

Why are some people blaming Sky for this? Seems like some people want Sky to keep the ITVs on the EPG even though ITV asked for them to be removed. Which would be silly. They are ITVs channels, not Skys. Sky can't arbitrarily decide to keep them after being told to remove them by the owners.

If you wish to complain, complain to ITV.

If Sky did not charge similar money for EPG placement to costs of Transponder carriage, for something that costs them very little, then more would on on Sky and all BBC & ITV *might* be on it (BBC won't pay a penny)

Sky Pays BBC for BBCNI on ROI epg! They could do same for ITV if it suited them.

Sparky

maybe they are off the epg for us because arnt the bbc and itv making their own satellite service?

But anyway fook this, i know i have a FTA card but fook this, ive no record now.

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andrew3

Leesider wrote:

Something's rotten in the state of ITV/TV3/UTV..........

What sort of people represent Sky and sales in ROI? Have they any balls (or brains??)

I agree, Why does'nt tv3 have a bone to pick with ntl????

sky should just drop tv3 - they dont broadcast in widescreen etc- at least with utv etc you can watch the shows in whatever format you want 4:3 or 16:9

Im gonna ring ITV and TV3 tomorrow too - Ill also send emails to tv3's advertisers registering my disgust! -(sure Im only in work -what else is there to do?)

Just a note itv3 is still on ntl along with bbc 3,4, news 24,etc....

Also ITV4 was supposed to be GRANADA PLUS rebranded! -so now we are now effectively loosing a channel that was in Our channel package.

NDS should be forced to release an official cam that way we could choose what stations we want instead of what someone else wants

I vote we should put Our money together and bid out RTE for the top positions in the program guide - I'd love to see andrew 1, 2,3,4,5 on top (all testcard channels - bet you I'd win the highest share of audiences!)

Tony

channelsurfer wrote:

if this is the case then why havent they been removed from the uk epg as they are not must carry public service channels? only itv1 comes close to that.

perhaps they will at some future date

byte

Well, ITV3 replaced G+, though of course, after ITV4 launched, it was to be the new male-orientated channel from ITV, same as G+ used to be.

Tony

andrew3 wrote:

sky should just drop tv3 -

They cant without breaching contract.