different effects of different alcoholic drinks

redspider

Maybe its been said before.

The effect of alcoholic-based drinks on a person is all about two things The strength of the drink (% Vol) and the rate at which the person drinks it. The body works by absorbing the alcohol into the blood stream, it reaches the brain and creates "side-effects" and the body gets rid of it by processing it in the liver and perhaps other organs (this is not a full scientific treatise). The liver works at different rates in different people, but generally works at a certain "flat-out" rate. If your blood gets more alcohol (ethanol in this case CH3-COOH) than it can process, the effect on the brain is increased, etc.

Another factor is that if there is too much alcohol in your stomach, the body, which is treating it as a toxin, will naturally try and get rid of it, and the person can vomit, and lose a lot of alcohol as a result. (disgusting I know).

There are of course individual factors, how effective your body is at getting the alcohol from the stomach into the blood, the extent of the side-effects it causes on your various brain parts, the rate at which your liver processes the alcohol. There is body size and metabolism rates also as factors.

You often hear about people who can really hold their drink. With people who dont get so easily drunk, their bodies are just working in a way that prevents the alcohol from getting to the brain. In my book thats ineffeciency, at least if you are drinking to get the effect.

So, for those of you who want to get blotto, drink a pint of moonshine in 15 mins and you will probably go unconcious, that is if you dont get sick first. Whereas if you have a pint of beer in 4 hrs, your body will hardly notice a thing. Think concentration, and think rate.

redspider

toffeapple

Who ever thinks absinthe is the same as other alcohol has never had the real stuff...the only thing that is similar is taking Ketamine(its not as strong as this)...enter la la land..you dont feel drunk but know you are..you loose all you motor skills..but think its great!!

rubadub

Fajitas! wrote:

. Real absinthe (Not the bright green stuff you get in Spain mind) has mescaline in it, formed through the herbs,

no it doesnt, it has thujone from the plant wormwood. And in trace amounts in current bottles. The effect people have from absinthe now is since they usually knock it back straight and it is 70-80%. Strange things happen at higher % due to the fast intake to the blood stream. Mescaline is derived from various cacti, the usual myth is that tequila is brewed from psychoactive cacti (it is not)

rubadub

MorningStar wrote:

The reason there is no information on how different alcholic drinks affect you is becasue there is no difference other than alcohol content....
If anybody can find a scientific reason for these claims I'd love to see it.

You and others pointed out the main differences, which are %, sugar content, sytle of drinking, empty stomach, fizz etc.

The other "scientific" reason is that drinks do not just contain ethanol, they are made up of many complex compounds. Red wine and cider are very high in methanol, others will be high in ethyl acetate, cogeners fusel oils. Experience has told me that drinks full of crap will lead to more blackouts, and can indeed produce different highs. People are saying Jack Daniels turns them mental, it is a cheaply produced spirit (costs a lot due to ads, just like budweiser), this is why many drinks will lead to hangovers. Scotch whiskey is reknowned as being high in methanol due to its continuous still approach. Some of the crappy cheap irish and scottish "vodkas" are the discarded "foreshots", "heads", and "tails" of whiskey producers. It is so bad they will not put it in the cheapest of whiskies, it smells and tastes unpalatable. They clean it up with carbon filters and other methods. Anybody getting a hangover from vodka is drinking the wrong stuff. Stick to skyy and stoli for a decent morning after.
Drinking cider is probably the way to get most methanol in your system unless you are drinking extremely poor vodka/whiskey. I think there are legal limits to the amount and many go right up to it. In making decent vodka about 60-70% of the distillate is thrown away. The longer a whiskey/rum etc is matured the more "bad alcohols" and cogeners get transformed into new compounds which affect taste and possible mood.

It can be compared to other drugs. Cannabis has 2 main compounds THC and CBD, the crappy hash in Ireland is high in CBD which produces a stoney "couch lock" lazy high, while good weed harvested at a specific time is high in THC with very little CBD resulting in a clear cerebral high.
Psilocybian mushrooms have differing levels of psilocybin and psilocin and other compounds which some claim can affect people in different ways

spiderlegs

JD for me is dangerous..I think I'm functioning normally...I'm actually locked, it is one of the most confusing things to describe...it's crazy!!

besty

Font22 wrote:

i never knew that thing about gin making you cry until recently when a "friend" poured Lidl gin into my wine without me noticing. he wanted to see if it wud make me cry. it didnt tho, in fact i was in great form. but then again i'm not middle aged.........

Good times

Royale with Cheese

All the same to me, but I don't drink anything stronger than wine. I just end up getting sick on vodka or stronger.

BrokenArrows

Siogfinsceal wrote:

.....Jagger Bombers are never a good idea...

What!!! They are the best idea ever.

IvaBigWun

petes wrote:

Jack Daniels sends me mad.

Makes me either very horny or sends me stark raving mad. Either way its not worth the risk.

Whiskey, white wine and cider seem to be the main 3 Ive noticed people changing into Mr or Mrs Hyde on.