different effects of different alcoholic drinks

pwd

Why is it hard to find information on this? Whiskey has a different effect to wine has a different effect to beer. Discuss. post links

senordingdong

It's called alcohol content.

Jimi-Spandex

I'm fairly sure it has to do with absorbtion rates and percentages of alcohol.

Go for the Food/Drink forum

chuckles30

It also depends on what you normally drink I think....

aw

Gin makes middle-aged women cry....

IceHawk

I know whiskey gives me horrible cramps in my legs the next morning, it also makes some people violent, when beer won't.

toffeapple

drink absint and don't expect to function for 12 hours...wierd sh*t

Siogfinsceal

mixing drinks is okay and wont effect you too badly unless you happen to mix in orange bacardi breezer that makes you thro wup the next morning i think its the citric acid.
oh and never mix tequila shots with vodka and champagne
Jagger Bombers are never a good idea...

toffeapple

Alco pops are poisonous filth and should never be put in the body....if you see the scum that's left on a glass after a breezer has been sat in it over night you know what im talking about...filth

The Real B-man

Bulmers is deffo the mad mans drink makes me do things that other alcohol doesnt

Lump

Everyone is different. Drinks will effect people differently. Depending on the size/weight of the person, also the fat contet of them. Also if they're heavy/frequent drinkers. Alcohol content of the drink matter too, and if it's a gas filled drink. Champagne will get you drunk quicker then white wine. There's so many contributing factors, it's impossible to tell.

Absinthe will make some people see things, some people violent, some people vomit, some people sleep, some people fall over.


John

MorningStar

The reason there is no information on how different alcholic drinks affect you is becasue there is no difference other than alcohol content.

As some drinks are easier to drink people drink quicker and think that a certain drink gets you drunk quicker. It doesn't you just drank a certain amount of alcohol at a certain speed.

The body still absorbs alchol depending on the content of your stomach and your body over all.

People mix alco pops fro €10 a drink and say it gets them drunker quicker than a pint. Nonsense they still have the same alcohol content as an unmixed version 5-6%.

Some drinks will effect you very quickly due to the nature they are drank tequila, sambuca etc...

Absenth is very over rated as most of the stuff bottled and sold has none of the qualities the drink originally had. Like the Potin sold in off licences is nothing like the real thing.

A lot of myth about drink exists and people make up stories about how they can't touch cider as it makes you mad based on one incident from their past or the fact they are used to seeing scumbags drinking it.

If anybody can find a scientific reason for these claims I'd love to see it. We have been drinking alcohol for a long time and I don't think you will find any proof meaning it is nonsense

She-Ra

JD gives me the shakes for about 3 days!

toffeapple

MorningStar wrote:

Absenth is very over rated as most of the stuff bottled and sold has none of the qualities the drink originally had. Like the Potin sold in off licences is nothing like the real thing.

I had the real stuff brought back from Rome...it was not like other alcohol i can tell you that for certain...and i wasnt even taking drugs at the time..i have no scientific evidence to back this but i would like to here from others who have drank it and feel the same...or different..or indifferent..or would just like to wade in with some comments..or not..or would like to change the subject..maybe talk about sport or clothes or farming or whatever

MorningStar

toffeapple wrote:

I had the real stuff brought back from Rome...it was not like other alcohol i can tell you that for certain...and i wasnt even taking drugs at the time..i have no scientific evidence to back this but i would like to here from others who have drank it and feel the same...or different..or indifferent..or would just like to wade in with some comments..or not..or would like to change the subject..maybe talk about sport or clothes or farming or whatever

Absenth is a little different and should not really be brought into the debate people are talking about cider versus beer and differernt brands of whiskey over another. Absenth does have hallucigenic effects IF you get the right stuff. There are different brands of it and one or two are meant to be close to the real stuff. In saying thet it is like getting drunk on shandy that came in cans year ago with 0.1% alcohol. THe real stuff is avilable illegally in the south of France in rural areas, big difference to the bottled stuff.

Beer versus cider versus alcopops is nosense to having differnt effects other than maybe sugar highs combined.

petes

Jack Daniels sends me mad.

Lady_Macbeth

just don't drink almost a litre of vodka and numerous tequila shots. You will suffer the consequences.

pwd

I've read that there's some chemicals in whiskey that have sedative effects apart from just alcohol.

DrIndy

Quantity, nothing more, drink more of stronger stuff and you just get more pissed.

Kernel

toffeapple wrote:

I had the real stuff brought back from Rome...it was not like other alcohol i can tell you that for certain...and i wasnt even taking drugs at the time..i have no scientific evidence to back this but i would like to here from others who have drank it and feel the same...or different..or indifferent..or would just like to wade in with some comments..or not..or would like to change the subject..maybe talk about sport or clothes or farming or whatever

Hmm I drank the real stuff from the Czech Republic, and it is just a strong liquor. Nothing strange or exciting about it, just gets you pissed and sneaks up on you like all shots of liquor.

If Van Gogh had downed a bottle of Tequila, I suspect he would have gone off his trump as well, and thus a different urban legend would be born.

lodgepole

DrIndy wrote:

Quantity, nothing more, drink more of stronger stuff and you just get more pissed.

Not true. Beer makes me sleepy. Whiskey makes me hyper. I've seen grown men weep after drinking too much gin. Sambuca and tequila shots make me demented. There are many different levels of drunkeness and quantity isn't the only factor.

If it was, you wouldn't see so many lunatics at music festivals necking bottles of buckfast and going completely insane.

Fajitas!

Actually...Absinthe is more than a strong alcoholic drink. Real absinthe (Not the bright green stuff you get in Spain mind) has mescaline in it, formed through the herbs, hence mild trippyness. So it's not really just the alcohol in it that makes you go crazy!

Font22

i never knew that thing about gin making you cry until recently when a "friend" poured Lidl gin into my wine without me noticing. he wanted to see if it wud make me cry. it didnt tho, in fact i was in great form. but then again i'm not middle aged.........

JohnCleary

All I know is I get roudy off vodka, and violent after buckfast :eek:

Esel

JohnCleary wrote:

All I know is I get roudy off vodka, and violent after buckfast :eek:

Funny that - I get rowdy on vodka, and sick after breakfast.

JohnCleary

esel wrote:

Funny that - I get rowdy on vodka, and sick after breakfast.

I hope you know what buckfast is!

Blisterman

I got a bottle of proper Absinthe, with Wormwood, and it has a different effect than any other alcohol I've tried.
It's the most foul tasting drink I've ever had, but it fcuks you up. I had about 4 shots of it, and I didn't feel drunk, but I could barely walk and was falling over, and I felt a different sort of high, than you get from alcohol. It's hard to explain.
Really weird stuff.

Lump

JohnCleary wrote:

I hope you know what buckfast is!

He probably doesn't, since only scumbags and knackers drink it. Oh and Alco's.

I know what it is as I worked as a bouncer, I clearly am non of the above.

John

SexeeAussie

NEVER EVER drink Bundaberg Rum (Bundy).....

It really really is an evil drink, people go psycho on it. I have tested out this theory myself.....

cournioni

Jagermeister followed by vodka and red bull can be quite a combination.

mickymg2003

I was drinking loads of free wine at RTE last night and im in bits this morning!!!Never Again!!!

redspider

Maybe its been said before.

The effect of alcoholic-based drinks on a person is all about two things The strength of the drink (% Vol) and the rate at which the person drinks it. The body works by absorbing the alcohol into the blood stream, it reaches the brain and creates "side-effects" and the body gets rid of it by processing it in the liver and perhaps other organs (this is not a full scientific treatise). The liver works at different rates in different people, but generally works at a certain "flat-out" rate. If your blood gets more alcohol (ethanol in this case CH3-COOH) than it can process, the effect on the brain is increased, etc.

Another factor is that if there is too much alcohol in your stomach, the body, which is treating it as a toxin, will naturally try and get rid of it, and the person can vomit, and lose a lot of alcohol as a result. (disgusting I know).

There are of course individual factors, how effective your body is at getting the alcohol from the stomach into the blood, the extent of the side-effects it causes on your various brain parts, the rate at which your liver processes the alcohol. There is body size and metabolism rates also as factors.

You often hear about people who can really hold their drink. With people who dont get so easily drunk, their bodies are just working in a way that prevents the alcohol from getting to the brain. In my book thats ineffeciency, at least if you are drinking to get the effect.

So, for those of you who want to get blotto, drink a pint of moonshine in 15 mins and you will probably go unconcious, that is if you dont get sick first. Whereas if you have a pint of beer in 4 hrs, your body will hardly notice a thing. Think concentration, and think rate.

redspider

toffeapple

Who ever thinks absinthe is the same as other alcohol has never had the real stuff...the only thing that is similar is taking Ketamine(its not as strong as this)...enter la la land..you dont feel drunk but know you are..you loose all you motor skills..but think its great!!

rubadub

Fajitas! wrote:

. Real absinthe (Not the bright green stuff you get in Spain mind) has mescaline in it, formed through the herbs,

no it doesnt, it has thujone from the plant wormwood. And in trace amounts in current bottles. The effect people have from absinthe now is since they usually knock it back straight and it is 70-80%. Strange things happen at higher % due to the fast intake to the blood stream. Mescaline is derived from various cacti, the usual myth is that tequila is brewed from psychoactive cacti (it is not)

rubadub

MorningStar wrote:

The reason there is no information on how different alcholic drinks affect you is becasue there is no difference other than alcohol content....
If anybody can find a scientific reason for these claims I'd love to see it.

You and others pointed out the main differences, which are %, sugar content, sytle of drinking, empty stomach, fizz etc.

The other "scientific" reason is that drinks do not just contain ethanol, they are made up of many complex compounds. Red wine and cider are very high in methanol, others will be high in ethyl acetate, cogeners fusel oils. Experience has told me that drinks full of crap will lead to more blackouts, and can indeed produce different highs. People are saying Jack Daniels turns them mental, it is a cheaply produced spirit (costs a lot due to ads, just like budweiser), this is why many drinks will lead to hangovers. Scotch whiskey is reknowned as being high in methanol due to its continuous still approach. Some of the crappy cheap irish and scottish "vodkas" are the discarded "foreshots", "heads", and "tails" of whiskey producers. It is so bad they will not put it in the cheapest of whiskies, it smells and tastes unpalatable. They clean it up with carbon filters and other methods. Anybody getting a hangover from vodka is drinking the wrong stuff. Stick to skyy and stoli for a decent morning after.
Drinking cider is probably the way to get most methanol in your system unless you are drinking extremely poor vodka/whiskey. I think there are legal limits to the amount and many go right up to it. In making decent vodka about 60-70% of the distillate is thrown away. The longer a whiskey/rum etc is matured the more "bad alcohols" and cogeners get transformed into new compounds which affect taste and possible mood.

It can be compared to other drugs. Cannabis has 2 main compounds THC and CBD, the crappy hash in Ireland is high in CBD which produces a stoney "couch lock" lazy high, while good weed harvested at a specific time is high in THC with very little CBD resulting in a clear cerebral high.
Psilocybian mushrooms have differing levels of psilocybin and psilocin and other compounds which some claim can affect people in different ways

spiderlegs

JD for me is dangerous..I think I'm functioning normally...I'm actually locked, it is one of the most confusing things to describe...it's crazy!!

besty

Font22 wrote:

i never knew that thing about gin making you cry until recently when a "friend" poured Lidl gin into my wine without me noticing. he wanted to see if it wud make me cry. it didnt tho, in fact i was in great form. but then again i'm not middle aged.........

Good times

Royale with Cheese

All the same to me, but I don't drink anything stronger than wine. I just end up getting sick on vodka or stronger.

BrokenArrows

Siogfinsceal wrote:

.....Jagger Bombers are never a good idea...

What!!! They are the best idea ever.

IvaBigWun

petes wrote:

Jack Daniels sends me mad.

Makes me either very horny or sends me stark raving mad. Either way its not worth the risk.

Whiskey, white wine and cider seem to be the main 3 Ive noticed people changing into Mr or Mrs Hyde on.