Caught speeding in NI

starn

I got caught speeding near Newery a few hours ago. The PSNI officer who stopped me told me had I been a Northern Driver. He would of confiscating the car and given my a automatic two year suspension. He took my details checke my licence insurance etc, etc. So what happens now can a exspect a fine, penelty points, etc, etc

Stephen

You won't get points - the Irish an UK points systems don't interact at all - but you probably will get a fine.

Hagar

Don't be tempted not to pay the fine. They will do you big time mext time you cross the border if you try to be a smart-arse. They could confiscate your motor. You were caught - pay up.

JohnCleary

Hagar wrote:

Don't be tempted not to pay the fine. They will do you big time mext time you cross the border if you try to be a smart-arse. They could confiscate your motor. You were caught - pay up.

WOAH! Calm down there horse. He was just looking for advise.

My advise would be to hold out a while. If you get a speeding fine in the post, just pay it. You won't get points as said above, the UK/Irish points system dont interact. Just pay the fine and that should be the last you'll hear of it. Not paying it could get you in trouble if you come to Police attention in the North/UK in future

Atomic Pineapple

yeh ya will get a fine which you should pay

Hagar

JohnCleary wrote:

WOAH! Calm down there horse. He was just looking for advise.

The advice I gave was sensible, matter-of-fact and accurate.
Calm down you say?

C_Breeze

yeah , i agree jsut pay it and save yourself the hassle and the worry.

Whats more important what speed where you doing? and what road? ...Because it sounds like you were settin the road on fire!

eth0_

If you would have gotten a two year driving ban you must have been going at one hell of a speed.

I only wish he had the power to suspend your licence. I hate people who go up north with the intention of speeding because they know they'll only get a fine. You don't seem terribly bothered.

Atomic Pineapple

isnt it an automatic suspension and car confiscation when your caught over 100mph in the uk?

i cant think of any roads near newry where its possible let alone safe to go anywhere near that speed

C_Breeze

draffodx wrote:

isnt it an automatic suspension and car confiscation when your caught over 100mph in the uk?

i cant think of any roads near newry where its possible let alone safe to go anywhere near that speed

100 mph is nothing.

given the right car you can do way more than that up newry.

ive heard of higher speeds from 1.6 engined cars up around there.

you can easily crusie along at 120mph all the way up the M1 heading north

Capt'n Midnight

Had you been a NI driver you would also have to re-sit the driving test and then spent another year with R Plates, limited to 45mph and not too sure if you'd be banned from Motorways too for the year.

And down here elected representitives think that people who have never passed a driving test should be allowed drive home from pubs after having a few.:rolleyes:

Atomic Pineapple

C_Breeze wrote:

100 mph is nothing.

given the right car you can do way more than that up newry.

ive heard of higher speeds from 1.6 engined cars up around there.

you can easily crusie along at 120mph all the way up the M1 heading north

feck i forgot about the M1 i was thinking of the old windy road up to newry its always jammed with cars and i never seen any speeding on it cos of the congestion.

i know 100mph is nothin can easily get that out of a 1.4 i was just thinking of that road and i couldnt imagine any speeding on it. my mistake.

starn

C_Breeze wrote:

yeah , i agree jsut pay it and save yourself the hassle and the worry.

Whats more important what speed where you doing? and what road? ...Because it sounds like you were settin the road on fire!

I was clocked at 108 mph. Given I was dribving a 1L polo. I was pretty shocked when he told me this.

Stephen

Holy sh1t, I thought the max speed of those things was around 90mph?

skibum

starn wrote:

I was clocked at 108 mph.

:eek:
Just pay the fine, the next time you get stopped (and driving like that in a polo you will get stopped) they will really go to town on you. They have no sense of humour regarding speeding southern reg drivers taking the p1ss.

Atomic Pineapple

starn wrote:

I was clocked at 108 mph. Given I was dribving a 1L polo. I was pretty shocked when he told me this.

do you not check your speedometer to see what speed your doing?

pontovic

What posessed you to go that fast in a Polo. If you crashed you were gaurunteed to be killed. Nuts. I wonder though, would you have to declare that you were fined up north when it comes to renewing your insurance ?

Litcagral

C_Breeze wrote:

100 mph is nothing.

given the right car you can do way more than that up newry.

ive heard of higher speeds from 1.6 engined cars up around there.

you can easily crusie along at 120mph all the way up the M1 heading north

The M1 doesn't go anywhere near Newry! (Dungannon to Belfast). It was possibly on the Armagh Rd.

starn

Stephen wrote:

Holy sh1t, I thought the max speed of those things was around 90mph?

I thought that myself. But there ya go.

Anyone know what sort of a fine I'am looking at or if I am gonna have to declare it when I renew my insurane

Litcagral

draffodx wrote:

i know 100mph is nothin can easily get that out of a 1.4 QUOTE]

It is this type of moronic attitude that puts the rest of us in danger and increases the cost of our insurance.

Atomic Pineapple

Litcagral wrote:

i know 100mph is nothin can easily get that out of a 1.4 QUOTE]

It is this type of moronic attitude that puts the rest of us in danger and increases the cost of our insurance.

yeh of course, stating a fact, thats gonna put everyone in danger and scare insurance companies into increasing premiums

John R

C_Breeze wrote:

100 mph is nothing.

given the right car you can do way more than that up newry.

ive heard of higher speeds from 1.6 engined cars up around there.

you can easily crusie along at 120mph all the way up the M1 heading north

The M1 is this side of the border, he was probably on the A1 which is not safe in any circumstances at that sort of speed.

It is littered with bends, blind crests and crossroads that can and regularly do catch out speeders. I have seen a few close calls myself with cars crossing the dual carriageway too close to speeders on the main road.

IDMUD

Litcagral wrote:

draffodx wrote:

i know 100mph is nothin can easily get that out of a 1.4 QUOTE]

It is this type of moronic attitude that puts the rest of us in danger and increases the cost of our insurance.

Actually, no.

Crashing at 100 mph will kill you, dead people don't rack up huge hospital bills. What really costs are all the poor drivers here in Ireland rear ending others, whiplash for example will cost the insurance company loads of cash for years to come.

5500

Where is the fine issued from?would it come from the north or would the cops up there send it down here to the garda fines office to send to you?

Litcagral

John R wrote:

The M1 is this side of the border,.

There is an M1 up north also and was there years before our M1.

Atomic Pineapple

eireal wrote:

Where is the fine issued from?would it come from the north or would the cops up there send it down here to the garda fines office to send to you?

i believe its sent straight from the north to the address you gave them

C_Breeze

Litcagral wrote:

There is an M1 up north also and was there years before our M1.

There is?!? :eek:

Well, im off to set some land speed records- goodbye!

Atomic Pineapple

C_Breeze wrote:

There is?!? :eek:

Well, im off to set some land speed records- goodbye!

yeh the m1 goes straight to belfast i believe

Litcagral

IDMUD wrote:

Litcagral wrote:

Crashing at 100 mph will kill you, dead people don't rack up huge hospital bills. What really costs are all the poor drivers here in Ireland rear ending others, whiplash for example will cost the insurance company loads of cash for years to come.

What about the other innocent people who get caught up in serious accidents suffering long term illnesses and injuries? They may never be able to return to work and as a result will be compensated. What about the innocent victims who are killed by these idiots? What about the costs to rescue services - dead people still have to be 'recovered'? What about the cost to the economy caused by road closures, diversions etc? If some immature idiot wants to drive in excess of 100mph why should innocent people be put at risk? Public roads are for the 'public'. If you want to exceed the speed limit, do so in private at your own risk.

Litcagral

draffodx wrote:

yeh the m1 goes straight to belfast i believe

Dungannon to Belfast - not Newry to Belfast.

John R

Litcagral wrote:

There is an M1 up north also and was there years before our M1.

But it's not near Newry where the OP was caught.

Atomic Pineapple

Litcagral wrote:

Dungannon to Belfast - not Newry to Belfast.

yes thats what i meant

Litcagral wrote:

What about the other innocent people who get caught up in serious accidents suffering long term illnesses and injuries? They may never be able to return to work and as a result will be compensated. What about the innocent victims who are killed by these idiots? What about the costs to rescue services - dead people still have to be 'recovered'? What about the cost to the economy caused by road closures, diversions etc? If some immature idiot wants to drive in excess of 100mph why should innocent people be put at risk? Public roads are for the 'public'. If you want to exceed the speed limit, do so in private at your own risk.

i very rarely break the speed limit let alone go over 100mph i was just stating that even in a 1.4 car its easily possible to go over 100mph.
i completely agree that driving 100mph + on dangerous roads like the op is stupid and immature

Victor

Crashing at 100 mph will kill you, dead people don't rack up huge hospital bills. What really costs are all the poor drivers here in Ireland rear ending others, whiplash for example will cost the insurance company loads of cash for years to come.

The problem with that logic is that fatal accidents typcily also have injured people involved. Rear end or t-bone another vehicle at that speed and you are likely to put people in hospital for a long time.

eth0_

F*cking idiot. The speedo is there for a reason. It's easy to creep over the speed limit especially on the motorway but the speed limit is there for a reason.

It's really embarrassing how badly Irish people drive. You cross the border and immediately notice how much better at driving people from N.I. are, because driving laws are enforced.

Litcagral

eth0_ wrote:

It's really embarrassing how badly Irish people drive. You cross the border and immediately notice how much better at driving people from N.I. are, because driving laws are enforced.

It works both ways. Many NI drivers exceed speed limits in the ROI and drive on hard shoulder, overtake on the inside, park illegally etc.

Atomic Pineapple

yes i agree i live in the meath/louth area and the standard of northern reg driving is diabolical

stag39

draffodx wrote:

yeh the m1 goes straight to belfast i believe

it goes right to the heart of belfast not like our M1 which peters out at the start of the port tunnel...

Hagar

What Port Tunnel? Oh you must mean the expensive hole in the ground that is filling up with water.

Atomic Pineapple

Hagar wrote:

What Port Tunnel? Oh you must mean the expensive hole in the ground that is filling up with water.

i think bertie just wants a hole in the ground where he can put all the money he gets from ripping off motorists

woody

eth0_ wrote:

F*cking idiot. The speedo is there for a reason. It's easy to creep over the speed limit especially on the motorway but the speed limit is there for a reason.

It's really embarrassing how badly Irish people drive. You cross the border and immediately notice how much better at driving people from N.I. are, because driving laws are enforced.

The driving in Northern Ireland is actually extremely bad as I drive there constantly.


The also do not obey the law there, they are basically a lawless, appeased race up there and by appeased I mean they all have a chip on there shoulder because if a policeman is doing his job it is because "I am a taig" or "I am a prod".

These drivers are by far the most ignorant, aggressive and disgusting drivers in this Island, I constantly have to put up with their sh1t day in day out, IMHO I would like to see an Extreme Zero Tolerance Policy take against them and imprisonment, arrests and instant destruction of there vehicles to take place for there acts...Maybe then they will abide by the Law of the Republic of Ireland, which covers anyone within the jurisdiction :mad:

woody

starn wrote:

I got caught speeding near Newery a few hours ago. The PSNI officer who stopped me told me had I been a Northern Driver. He would of confiscating the car and given my a automatic two year suspension. He took my details checke my licence insurance etc, etc. So what happens now can a exspect a fine, penelty points, etc, etc

Your a complete idiot in the first case what was the rush a pint waiting for you....People like you disgust me and from what you say you were not just speeding but driving dangerously...If it were me BEHIND BARS PAL

MrPudding

Litcagral wrote:

There is an M1 up north also and was there years before our M1.

True. Amd it end about 40 miles from Newry. So he obviously wasn't on it.:D

MrP

woody

C_Breeze wrote:

100 mph is nothing.

given the right car you can do way more than that up newry.

ive heard of higher speeds from 1.6 engined cars up around there.

you can easily crusie along at 120mph all the way up the M1 heading north

Your a complete idiot your way and attitude cost's life's best thing that could happen to you now is crash into a ditch and do only damage to yourself and no-one else...

My brother died because of scum like you so F*ck up with the sh1te

MrPudding

Litcagral wrote:

It works both ways. Many NI drivers exceed speed limits in the ROI and drive on hard shoulder, overtake on the inside, park illegally etc.

Impressive. It actually took 35 post before someone trotted out the old "NI drivers are the scourge of driving in Ireland. We are soooooooo good and don't speed or run red lights" sh1te.

Seriously do you guys not get tired of spewing this sh1t? I drove in NI for 11 years before I moved down here. Believe me the driving is much worse down here. I saw more people running red light in my first week in Dublini that I did the the entire time I was driving in the north. Please believe me, that is not an exageration. Most people in the north stop on amber for christs sake.:eek:

That said, there are a lot of aggressive boy racer tosser types up there. The difference is they tend to either grow out of it or die. I did a bit of the boy racer thing when I was young but I did grow out of it, like most people in the north. The problem down here is that you have the boy racer type, like the north, but you also have older people that have no respect for red lights or the rules of the road in general. They also feel they have some kind of god given right to spend the entire night in a pub drinking and then drive home.

MrP

Atomic Pineapple

Your probably right MrPudding i spent a couple of months working in belfast and the standard of driving was very good, there light signals work better than ours too, the lights here stay on amber for too long in my opinion, people realise this and just powder on through.

But when some northern drivers cross the border to here they seem to disrespect the rules of the road, i see dangerous overtaking and dangerous speeding on a daily basis from northern reg drivers between dundalk and ashbourne.

And I agree that there is some sort of hype around the boy racer style/image down here, people dont seem to be growing out of it.

Litcagral

MrPudding wrote:

Impressive. It actually took 35 post before someone trotted out the old "NI drivers are the scourge of driving in Ireland. We are soooooooo good and don't speed or run red lights" sh1te.

Seriously do you guys not get tired of spewing this sh1t? I drove in NI for 11 years before I moved down here. Believe me the driving is much worse down here. I saw more people running red light in my first week in Dublini that I did the the entire time I was driving in the north. Please believe me, that is not an exageration. Most people in the north stop on amber for christs sake.:eek:

MrP

If you care to read my post again Mr Pudding, you will see that I used the word "many" not "all". It is you who have "trotted" out the "NI drivers are the scourge" phrase. I didn't mention it. Before the opening of the M1 I and many others spent a lot of time queuing in heavy traffic in Balbriggan, Drogheda, Dunleer etc. while watching MANY (note use of word MANY not all) NI registered vehicles skip queues and drive up along the hard shoulder and drive at excessive speeds on open roads and park illegally in towns along the route. I am not saying that they are any worse than ROI drivers, but attempting to give a balanced view to the post which seems to suggest that they were perfect.

woody

It is a proven fact that Yellow Reg drivers are excessively dangerous and have no regard for the law, I live beside a member of the traffic corp here and 85% of the cars stopped in Louth/Monaghan are dangerous northern drivers.


I have driven for many years around the border/belfast/louth and dublin and the driving again in the north is worse and even more so when crossing the border.. And I have seen mothers with kids in the car doing it,old people and every section of society.

I have a very militant zero tolerance attitude toward yellow plate drivers and idiots in general especially on the M1 as I want to get to work without stress and safely but these idiots insist on breaking the law...The more of them off the road or in a coffin the better and let the normal law abiding citizens drive in peace and safety.

MrPudding

woody wrote:

It is a proven fact that Yellow Reg drivers are excessively dangerous and have no regard for the law, I live beside a member of the traffic corp here and 85% of the cars stopped in Louth/Monaghan are dangerous northern drivers.

Cool. If it's a proven fact then you won't have any trouble providing, well, proof. I eagerly await it.

MrP

C_Breeze

woody wrote:

Your a complete idiot your way and attitude cost's life's best thing that could happen to you now is crash into a ditch and do only damage to yourself and no-one else...

My brother died because of scum like you so F*ck up with the sh1te

sorry to hear that

but please dont say beacuse of scum like me , because firstly i am not scum - and if you take time to read my post , idint say i do that speed or condone it - i just heard of somebody that did

MrPudding

Litcagral wrote:

If you care to read my post again Mr Pudding, you will see that I used the word "many" not "all". It is you who have "trotted" out the "NI drivers are the scourge" phrase. I didn't mention it. Before the opening of the M1 I and many others spent a lot of time queuing in heavy traffic in Balbriggan, Drogheda, Dunleer etc. while watching MANY (note use of word MANY not all) NI registered vehicles skip queues and drive up along the hard shoulder and drive at excessive speeds on open roads and park illegally in towns along the route. I am not saying that they are any worse than ROI drivers, but attempting to give a balanced view to the post which seems to suggest that they were perfect.

My point is simply that any time anyone suggests bad driving in the south someone always has to bring up the subject of the evil norther drivers.

I will admit I may not have spen as much time in those areas as you but I drove north once or twice a month after we moved down here 5 years ago. Our experiences are massively different. I only remember souther plate behaving as you mention, for the most part that is. I will admit that there may an an issue with northern drivers speeding in the south, quite similar to the problem of southern drivers speeding in the north, a la the OP.

Similary, in the north undertaking is very rare. I have seen a lot of undertaking down here but it is almost exclusively done by southern reg cars. I will admit though that I do not spend a huge amount of time in the border regions.

If people are parking illegally then this is really easy to sort out. Something tells me that clamping companies will not care if the car has a northern reg. Clamp the fcukers.

I am not trying to say that northern drivers are brilliant. But the whole "northern drivers disrepecting our laws (even though we ignore them.)" line does get a bit grating.

MrP

Atomic Pineapple

Put simply the lack of co operation between the gardai and the psni and the lack of unity between the southern and northern traffic laws leads to problems with both southern and northern drivers not respecting the laws in the opposite countries.

it happens both ways but we have to put up with the northerns so we give out about them as i'm sure someone is giving out about southern drivers in the north.

an all ireland traffic law is the only way to sort it.