Where would we be now if Hitler didnt lose the war?

Chong

Ok guys I know this is a little odd but having just watched one of my favorite movies of all time Saving Private Ryan, but the question is what would have happened if the allies would have lost. Also has anyone here had any family who fought WWII with any stories to tell

WhiteWashMan

last i heard, germany is in europe....

how about something more interesting like, what would have happened if dinosaurs didnt die out....?
and does anyone have any family from when the dinosaurs died out?

Chong

Each to their own.

grandmastaflash

Nice post WWM

xzanti

No but my grandad was a peace keeper in the Congo... got bitten by a snake and lived because apparently there was so much alcohol in his system that it counteracted the poison :rolleyes: good old granda... He still has the bight marks on his wrist...

Chong

Ya my grandfather was a gunner in the RAF, and fathers uncle was a POW in Auschwitz.

xzanti

WDK wrote:

Ya my grandfather was a gunner in the RAF, and fathers uncle was a POW in Auschwitz.

Yeah? did your fathers uncle survive??

Chong

Yup and is still alive to tell the tale.

xzanti

WDK wrote:

Yup and is still alive to tell the tale.

Thats some tale...

Chong

Btw my grandmother who emigrated from Ireland to England worked in a weapons manufacturing plant during the war.

Peteee

Where would we be if hitler won the war?

Germany I imagine!

homah_7ft

WDK wrote:

Also has anyone here had any family who fought WWII with any stories to tell

No, but something tells me you do.

Oh yes I see that you do.

xzanti

WDK wrote:

Btw my grandmother who emigrated from Ireland to England worked in a weapons manufacturing plant during the war.

Twas a hard time to be alive id say imo...

Chong

Would he have actually gone the all way to try and create a United States of Europe if you will. If so Ireland would have been really screwed.

Chong

Scratch that everyone would have really been screwed.

WhiteWashMan

is there actually a point to this thread, or are you just going to talk to yourself with one line answers?

Chong

Apologies WWM but just wanted to see if anyone else had any stories.

If hitler had won the war and defeated britain!there would be absolutely no reason for him to invade ireland!it would have been of no economic benefit!at worst we would have a slightly fascist government to make sure he wouldnt attack ireland.

Chong

But surely the country would be run and ruled by the Hitlers Nazi regime.

WhiteWashMan

if you want other peoples opinions, you should really give them something to comment on.
asking someone to comment on ww2 is like giving someone a blank canvas.
why not give your own stories and your own theories.

post 19 is not the time to be tossing out little gems like

But surely the country would be run and ruled by the Hitlers Nazi regime.

Hobbes

WDK wrote:

Ok guys I know this is a little odd but having just watched one of my favorite movies of all time Saving Private Ryan, but the question is what would have happened if the allies would have lost. Also has anyone here had any family who fought WWII with any stories to tell

Get Fatherland

KTRIC

WDK wrote:

But surely the country would be run and ruled by the Hitlers Nazi regime.

So no different then

therecklessone

If you want a serious discussion of the topic then bring it to the history board. IMO, Germany could never have defeated the Soviets, but if they'd managed to defeat the British they'd have dominated western Europe until the Soviets finally poured west, and we'd all be under Communist rule in a state of permanent conflict with the US.

If you don't want a serious discussion...

My Grandfather died in a concentration camp, he fell out of a guard tower and broke his neck...

Granpa Simpson wrote:

I never thought I could shoot down a German plane, but last year I proved myself wrong

Phoenix Nights wrote:

MAX: That my friend is a broom handled mauser. Dad shot a german with it.
PADDY: In the war?
MAX: No in the costa del sol, they were fighting over a sun lounger.

Litcagral

WDK wrote:

Ok guys I know this is a little odd but having just watched one of my favorite movies of all time Saving Private Ryan,

Maybe you should have watched the alternative version "Shaving Ryan's Privates" instead. The topic is too vast to discuss effectively in a thread.

Chong

Ok so WWM please move to history if possible.

[Jackass]

I think Hitler runs Boards.ie!!

Ah seriously though, we would have been invaded and conquerd and all of europe would be simular to what Russia is now but US would not have been invaded and would probably be pretty simular to what it is now, but far less involved in world politics probably...europe would be a deselate, depressing, failing communist economy, US would be more rich & reletavly detached from the world..possibly Asia would be even more prosperos and maybe be more closely linked with US (not to contradict myself) and africa would be exactly the same......imo tbh

But why speculate? The uprising begins here...

senordingdong

Communist?

entropi

xzanti wrote:

No but my grandad was a peace keeper in the Congo... got bitten by a snake and lived because apparently there was so much alcohol in his system that it counteracted the poison :rolleyes: good old granda... He still has the bight marks on his wrist...

Well, my grandad [God bless his soul] brought back a monkey with him from a tour of The Congo with the British army, lived with the family a while but they had to give it up , true story

Oh to therecklessone, we could never have been communists by the way, as Hitler was an extreme faschist who hated communism and wouldn't tolerate it, that's partly why he was at war with Russia.

Scraggs

what is required here is some sorta time machine... then we could find out!

[Jackass]

senordingdong wrote:

Communist?

yer, communist...I think it would have evolved to that..I very much doubt there would be a dictatorship over a land mass the size of europe and a population of about 500 million people...(EU alone, I think it's about 700 million people included eastern europe)

That's why I said simular to what Russia is like now...didn't they have a dictator around then? and that's what they evolved too (democracy is still a very new thing to Russia...it's hardly had a chance to change what Russia has been since the cold war, therefore I am comparing to what communisim has left russia like today)

xzanti

DubGuy wrote:

I think Hitler runs Boards.ie!!

Yeah I think he operates under the alias wwm (for short)

senordingdong

I'd say Ireland would be a much better place to live in.

youcancallmeal

America would of riddled Germany with atom bombs so they would of been defeated anyway?

WhiteWashMan

xzanti wrote:

DubGuy wrote:

I think Hitler runs Boards.ie!!

Yeah I think he operates under the alias wwm (for short)

really?

where is your proof?

mad m

youcancallme>al wrote:

America would of riddled Germany with atom bombs so they would of been defeated anyway?

Yeah we all would of had three eyes or an extra leg then with the fallout...

[Jackass]

lol, i never called you hitler!

But I think his proof is the swastika you have tattoed on your four-head!! :eek:

youcancallmeal

mad m wrote:

Yeah we all would of had three eyes or an extra leg then with the fallout...

No we would all be xmen of some sort.
Now all I have to do is figure out what my special power is

therecklessone

Death Sentence wrote:

Oh to therecklessone, we could never have been communists by the way, as Hitler was an extreme faschist who hated communism and wouldn't tolerate it, that's partly why he was at war with Russia.

therecklessone wrote:

Germany could never have defeated the Soviets, but if they'd managed to defeat the British they'd have dominated western Europe until the Soviets finally poured west, and we'd all be under Communist rule in a state of permanent conflict with the US.

Sequence of events:

1. Britain sues for peace. Germany dominates Western Europe for a number of years..
2. Russian forces advance steadily west, defeating the Germans and replacing German or German-backed puppet regimes with Communist governments.
3. USA, which has to date stayed out of European conflict, becomes drawn into periods of hot/cold warfare with Soviet Europe, quite possibly involving atomic weapons.

Dooom

Scraggs wrote:

what is required here is some sorta time machine... then we could find out!

I can see it now:
Me: "Ist hallo Adolf, ich von der Zukunft, wo die Zitronen sind?"

Hitler: "Was? Zitronen? Töten Sie diesen Mann."

Me: "Ach. Er.. macht nicht? Sie wurden aus Kunsthochschule getreten!"

Hitler: "Ich habe bereitwillig Sie täuschen verlassen! Töten Sie ihn sofort!"

Me: "Die Zitronen besetzen! Holen Sie mir die Zitronen! Und ein Affe. So kann ich prüfen, was es macht, wenn der Affe eine Zitrone isst"


Yeah, I like...really need some sleep.

WhiteWashMan

DubGuy wrote:

lol, i never called you hitler!

But I think his proof is the swastika you have tattoed on your four-head!! :eek:

quote was orginally bu Xzanti.

i dont have a swastica tattoo.

and its forehead.

are you still stalking me? i noticed you never bothered to come back to follow up your allegations of me before.
are you going to go and run off and post on feedback again now?

WhiteWashMan

Hobbes wrote:

Get Fatherland

good book.
read it about 3 or 4 years ago.

Dooom

Maybe he's incinuating you have 4 heads, and the tattoo's on your 4th head?

Incidently, did anyone see the episode of Justice League where this happened? The Hitler (name was Rust or Poo or something) took over the world because his future self went back in time and gave him funky technology plans.
The Green Lantern was a SpecOps soldier.

TerrorFirmer

Regardless, if Germany won the war, life would be very similar I'd imagine as is it now. Hitler had no ultimate plans as an evil figure to do anything crazy like exterminate the populace of europe and enslave them as people tend to generally think judging on the merits of his evil character. Hitler had good opinions of his European neighbours, Britain included. He was a great statesman and made Germany a hugely powerful nation and increased the quality of life immensely in an extremely short period of time.

Now, for the people of both Eastern Europe and the Soviet, not the mention the surviving remainder of the Jewish faith, life would have been harsh.

Its a tad more complicated then a simple Hitler was evil therefore life would suck.

Tha Gopher

Yeah, had family involvemnt. My grandad died at Auschwitz.

He was coming off duty on the watchtower when he slipped fell 50 feet and cracked his skull.








Ba dum tish....

therecklessone

Tha Gopher wrote:

Yeah, had family involvemnt. My grandad died at Auschwitz.

He was coming off duty on the watchtower when he slipped fell 50 feet and cracked his skull.








Ba dum tish....

Must have me on ignore...

TerrorFirmer

therecklessone wrote:

If you want a serious discussion of the topic then bring it to the history board. IMO, Germany could never have defeated the Soviets, but if they'd managed to defeat the British they'd have dominated western Europe

What makes you say that? Germany could have beaten the soviets given more adequate leadership decision making at the top, ie, generals free to plan strategically based on their own opinions rather then having to either obey Hitlers constanting changing directives or be relieved.

Ferror

WDK wrote:

Btw my grandmother who emigrated from Ireland to England worked in a weapons manufacturing plant during the war.

Mine too, aparently an enemy plane crashed into the factory one day when she was working there!

Scary stuff

senordingdong

Who knows...maybe Hoff would be Prime minister some day.

therecklessone

MobileInfantry wrote:

What makes you say that? Germany could have beaten the soviets given more adequate leadership decision making at the top, ie, generals free to plan strategically based on their own opinions rather then having to either obey Hitlers constanting changing directives or be relieved.

Force of numbers.

[Jackass]

WhiteWashMan wrote:

are you still stalking me? i noticed you never bothered to come back to follow up your allegations of me before.
are you going to go and run off and post on feedback again now?

pfft! haha, whatever dude...I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about! I have never mentioned you on the feedback forum or any forum for that matter...so i would be interested to know what my allegations against you are! lol, it all sounds very sinister!!

I havn't even been on boards for over a month before this week anyway, so even if it did happen, it couldn't have been very recent...a link would be nice though..for de laf like!!

I think the who's stalking who here? scenario is very much open to debate...:v:

TerrorFirmer

therecklessone wrote:

Force of numbers.

Force of numbers means nothing. Well, that said, it is certainly decisive, but certainly no way to determine a victor. This was well proved even in the Battle of Britian where the luftwaffe vastly outnumbered the RAF yet could still not destroy them as promised. For the most part the German army as a fighting force was far superior to their Soviet counterpart.