I hate Ireland!!!

savoyard

As others have said, you can't do anything for a few years. But you can start planning a few things for the future.

- Plan a gap year for after your leaving and start saving for the trip now.Or get the Australian year visa. Lots of Brits do it just after school rather than after college.
- spend your summers working in other countries. It's easy to pick up a summer job in England for instance without needing another language. Go to a holiday resort in Europe to work for the summer. You'll get bar work in in Spain or Greece for instance. Good way of meeting people from other countries (although not necessarily people from the country you're in). Do a season in a winter resort.
- if you're planning on going to college, look into doing it in England or another European country or do a course that will allow you spend a year abroad. College summers are perfect for working abroad. You can see what country you'd think you like and start learning the language or whatever. Or you might decide that you'd prefer to stay in Ireland.

If you want to suceed rather than living from hand to mouth, you need to plan a flexible career with skills that you can transfer easily.

I emigrated, although not because I hated Ireland, and it was definitely the best thing I ever did. I love coming home, miss my friends and family and will always be happy to be Irish, but could never move back.

dundalk cailin

Savoyard where do u live? as i said earlier choosin to do this Erasmus yr was best thing i ever did, makes me apprecaite what i have at home, and gives me a taste of te big bad world

phantom_lord

I've been away in a few different countries and all i can say is that the people here are a hell of a lot friendlier and considerate in general than in other countries. It's always a relief to come home and interact with good ol irish people.

Heathen

i love ireland.. its a beautiful country.. historic, natural, inspiring.. i love irish people.. friendly, open minded, interesting..

but i hate the irish government.. they play us day in and day out and laugh at us.. for this reason alone a lot of my friends have left ireland and started brand new and always better lives in other countries in europe, the US and australasia.. not one person that i know who has left ireland has done worse for them selves than they were doing here... they all talk about being able to LIVE thier life and not be worried about money troubles etc... they say "oh man, pack up your s**t in ireland and come here to live.. you live to work over there in ireland.. you should come here and just live for yourself.." and i must say its very tempting... next years im planning to buy a house.. but i neede to put some serious time and thought into it before i do.. cause i dont want to have too many ties to Ireland if i deside to up and leave.. id rather not have a big mortgage holding me back.. i want to have a life.. not just be another drone for the irish government...

dundalk cailin

its the people that make ireland ireland

fischerspooner

he's 15 for christ's sake. When I was his age I hated ireland, I hated school etc. etc. I wanted to go to highschool in america and bang the girls out of saved by the bell and 90210. Then I left school, went to college, lived abroad for a couple of years, came back here, got a good job with good money, and I couldnt' be happier. I had a LOT of bad times living in Canada, you don't have the family support and familiarity over there. And you'll always feel like an immigrant and 2nd class wherever you go.
The chicks in Home and Away look hot and I'd love to go and live in Australia but these places are a lot more real than you think.

dudara

at the risk of repeating myself, would people please keep this thread on topic. We're now on page 4, and very little has actually been said to address the OP's concerns. This is not "I love Ireland and irish people" thread or an "I emigrated" thread.

Next person off topic will be banned and/or thread locked!

The Corinthian

To the OP: As has been already mentioned you are 15 and are expressing what I would imagine is typical teenage angst. You are falling into the typical trap of “the grass is always greener”, that is to say that if you were somewhere else, you believe that all your problems would somehow be solved and thus you blame where you live as the root of all your problems.

It’s not. One of the things we learn, as we grow older is that we are, more often than not, the root of all our own problems. If you moved abroad your character and personality would almost certainly cause you to repeat the patterns you’ve experienced in Ireland. You could go to a high school in the US, but you would hate that too before long. You also would probably not make that many friends there either.

As this thread has demonstrated it is not unusual to eventually live abroad - often coming back. You’ve plenty of time for that. In the meantime examine what is the real reason or reasons you’re unhappy.

Perhaps you hate school because you’re bullied, or you don’t like the subjects you’re doing? You don’t have too many friends because you’re shy or because you don’t fit in? Address those things directly. Moving school or some new, more fashionable, threads may be all you need. I don’t know, but I do know that moving country will solve nothing, as your problems will almost certainly emigrate with you.

Dave!

The Corinthian wrote:

It’s not. One of the things we learn, as we grow older is that we are, more often than not, the root of all our own problems. If you moved abroad your character and personality would almost certainly cause you to repeat the patterns you’ve experienced in Ireland. You could go to a high school in the US, but you would hate that too before long. You also would probably not make that many friends there either.

I dunno about that... I haven't done any travelling myself, but my brothers and friends, etc, have, and as someone said earlier, it boosted their confidence and made them a different person.

Lots of people are saying that you should stay in Ireland and not run away from your problems, but I'd say travelling is just the thing you should do. Finish school, get a job and build up some funds, then go to whatever country you want, and start working over there. I'd say your confidence will boost, and you'll make alot of friends too.

I plan on doing the same, only after college (if I decide to actually finish). I'm fed up with Ireland, I want to do something more exciting with my life than go to school, go to college, get a career, like all my family are doing. There's lots of places I'm eager to see -- Australia, America, Thailand, France, etc -- so I'm hoping that when the appropriate time comes I'll have the confidence to make the move.

If you move over there and don't like it, you can always move back no problem, so I don't see why people are trying to persuade you to stay. Experience different countries and cultures, make foreign friends, see different places.

After you're done with all of that, maybe you'll decide to return home -- then do it! Maybe you'll decide that there's a lovely little area in America that you'd like to live, maybe for a few years, maybe for a few more, maybe start a family there -- then do it!

When you're in a position where you have adequite education (after school, after you learn a trade, or after college, you choose) and the initiative to get moving, then you should.

Good luck anywho

I've actually got a thread here which fully explains my dilemma

The Corinthian

DaveMcG wrote:

I dunno about that... I haven't done any travelling myself, but my brothers and friends, etc, have, and as someone said earlier, it boosted their confidence and made them a different person.

In fairness, you have a point in so far as moving to a new environment can certainly help someone to start over and remedy the mistakes of the past. However, this should not be confused with it being the solution in itself - the environment may make it easier to change, but it’s the change that ultimately is the solution, not where you make it.

RobEire

half_life_man wrote:

I wish I could move to another country, i am only 15 and I was born and raised in Ireland. Does anyone else hate this country? I don't have a lot of friends here and I hate my school. I wish I could move to America or Australia, I HATE MY LIFE HERE!!!!!

I have lived in a good few countries. Ireland has its problems but it is not the worst place to live by far. Not knowing your situation I can't comment too much but would suggest that if your attitude stems from problems with friends/family/school, consider that those can be transitory things that you can change/influence without having to emigrate.

You could go to the country of your dreams and make the wrong kind of friends and find yourself as miserable as if you had stayed at home - this has in fact happened to me.

WhiteWashMan

i left ireland for several reasons.
i couldnt find the right kinds of opportunities that interested me job wise.
the cost of living was too high.
i got bored of the crap transport service.
i got bored of the continuous tribunals.
i needed a change of scenery and a new start.
ive always wanted to trvel and live i ndifferent places
i also got bored of the 'ah sure' attitude that is prevelant in irish society.

some of these things i could fix, some i couldnt.
i moved to the uk becuase i got a good job, becuase the cost of living is lower, and the standard of living i believe is higher.
i find the multi-cultural society quite refreshing, and i can go and see spurs a lot easier at the weekend!
the weather is better in the south of england as well!

theres a whole host of reasons why i prefer living in the uk to living in ireland. thats not to say i hate ireland. many people seem to think that just becuase you move country you hate ireland, or being irish or something. i dont. far from it. i love ireland. i just dont want to live there.

i love going back. i love visiting. i love meeting up with old friends and going for beers with boards people. i will always love ireland, much the same way i still feel about the first love i had in life. its a fondness. its thinking about all the good things. but i have to remember that i was miserable and unhappy while i lived there.
thats about the conditions i lived there, its nothing to do with being irish, or ireland per say.

will i stay in england. no. i will move on at some time. maybe in 6 months, maybe in 2 years, but i think i will probably move. it wont be back to ireland. it will be onwards and upwards for me. again, its about change, its about doing something i always wanted to do.

but ireland is getting better. the luas is a marvel. the place is cleaner. the people seem more positive than ever. maybe someday i can even stop being embarassed by the shenanigans of irish politicians and outspoken U2 band members. but those are my issues that i need to deal with

i sometimes wonder why people hate ireland. i think its more to do with just being unhappy with life in general, and its easier to direct it towards something that you dont havea direct influence on, rather than look at what you can change.

AnonymousBloke

ain't got time to wade through all these posts...

OP, sounds like you're having a crap time, which is horrible, and can understand you blaming it on where you live/being Irish, etc, etc.

Dunno, at one time I felt the same way, and couldn't wait to leave Ireland. That was about 15 years ago. Since then have lived and travelled in the UK, US, Germany, France, Asia. What it's come down to for me is that wherever you go you'll find good and bad sh*t, and on balance Ireland, like anywhere else, is a complex package of culture, history, socio-economic conditions, etc..

I loved certain things about living in the US, made great friends, but personally I would not want to live there. Ditto the UK, and Germany. And I have friends who are Irish and live happily in these places. Ultimately it comes down to how a place fits you as a person.

Ireland has a big drink culture, which doesn't interest me at all, and sport ain't really my thang, but there's a lot more going on here than just the stereotypical cliched image of 'Irishness' would suggest.

My ideal living scenario would be summer in Ireland and winter in Italy/France/Spain..still working on that one

I hope things pick up for you- for what it's worth, I hated being 15, IMO teenage years are about the toughest there is.

Jumpy

GaRtH_V wrote:

Kill yourself?
But seriously...Ireland isnt to blame....its you,its people like you that make this country what it is, so stfu and stop complaining,get the hell out of my country if you dont like it

I am trying to figure out how this tool never got a reply and/or a sinbinning.

mysterious

half_life_man wrote:

I wish I could move to another country, i am only 15 and I was born and raised in Ireland. Does anyone else hate this country? I don't have a lot of friends here and I hate my school. I wish I could move to America or Australia, I HATE MY LIFE HERE!!!!!

There's plenty I could and wish to say to you (sarcastic)

Firstly people who say that all the time, is just no exuse for not getting up of your bony ass and make life interesting, the geography of the county is irrelevant.

Secondly
Every country my friend is'nt Hollywood and Ireland is far from it, why lump on the dark side. Its what you make of it, everthing is there good and bad
It's your choice to love and hate

thirdly
The fact is your a typical teenager, your hormones are all over the place, and of course your moaning, so this is why I take it lightly.

finally I have no time for moaners, (not you personally) they are unhealthy to the human race

dlofnep

I like Ireland. I like the city I live in. I like the people here. The weather is dismal, but I can always wear a coat.

I lived in America - It's fun there. Same principals though. Work through the week, get hammered the weekend. If you plan on moving to a large city there, be prepared to put up with the hustle and bustle of a real large city. took me a while to get used to.

cil_aine

to the OP, i used to feel like you when i was a bit younger.
i live in england, and used to be really pissed off about my life there. i hated my school (not the (majority) of other kids), but the teachers and atmosphere, it was stuck up and really snobby and OTT on the british patriotism and religion)
people in my area were really narrow minded and conservative, and ignorant.
i couldnt hack it so used to think about how much i hated the country. i used to think about how much better it would be in ireland ( i'm there for about a thrid of the year). then as i got older i realised *SHOCK HORROR* ireland isn't the answer to all my problems, it has problems of its own.
but then i thought hard and realsied that my problem was only with a small aspect of english society, conservative middle-upper class people (ie where i went to school Harpenden) and that actually i was proud of where i came from (kentish town, london) and proud of my 'roots' (ireland). Belive me, Ireland could be a lot worse, you're probabaly just in a bad area, like i was. Travel the world, see new places and broaden your horizons too.

1huge1

half_life_man wrote:

I wish I could move to another country, i am only 15 and I was born and raised in Ireland. Does anyone else hate this country? I don't have a lot of friends here and I hate my school. I wish I could move to America or Australia, I HATE MY LIFE HERE!!!!!

america is very over rated and why do you think its irelands fault
can you really be sure you wouldnt have the problem elsewere

Lex Luthor

I felt the same at your age.....believe me it gets better. 15 is a tough age.

Once you go to college things change for the better....

It may be just the area uou live in which was one of the main reasons for me at your age...I got the chance to bail out of there at 18 when I started college and never looked back

WhiteWashMan

Jumpy wrote:

I am trying to figure out how this tool never got a reply and/or a sinbinning.

did you hit the report button?

ai ing

I just did. I dont think comments like that should be allowed especially on PI

Gordon

Jumpy wrote:

I am trying to figure out how this tool never got a reply and/or a sinbinning.

Victor banned him and a couple of others earlier today. As WWM says, report the post in future if you can.

smashingpumpkin

i love ireland