My New Rig...

Irishpimpdude

Could someone price me an opteron system without gfx??? with atleast 1gig ram,200gb sata

savemejebus

komplett have an x850 pro for 240 from tomorrow, will probably beat the 6600 even with the 512

conzy

Here is an opty system:

opteron 144 (€145) komplett
Asus a8n-e (€99) brilliant overclocking board, komplett
OCZ Platinium rev 2 pc3200 (€209) from www.shop4memory.ie
Cooler Master Real Power 450W (€99) komplett
NEC DVD±RW burner (€45)
Samsung SpinPoint P120S 200GB (€99) komplett

Total= €696

If you want sli go for asus A8n sli deluxe extra €50

You can just use the onboard divider

Using a memory divider causes a bottle neck and sometimes instability, memory divider should always be set to 1:1 for best performance

gline

conzymaher wrote:

Using a memory divider causes a bottle neck and sometimes instability, memory divider should always be set to 1:1 for best performance

since when does it cause instability?? ive used dividers on some of systems and its fine, just means ram isnt working at full speed. Also dont get a coolermaster psu

commited

conzymaher wrote:

Using a memory divider causes a bottle neck and sometimes instability, memory divider should always be set to 1:1 for best performance

Wrong. Totally wrong infact. Dividers are fine, in 939 systems anyway.

I wouldnt bother with a 512mb 6600. The 512mb is wasted.

conzy

It causes instability in athlon xp systems anyway, But you should always have it at 1:1 where possible if you have to lower it because your ram cant handle the speed you know you have bought the wrong ram, you have to buy faster ram or good overclocking ram and keep the htt as high as possible even if you have to loosen timings, I only told him to buy a cooler master because he is working to a tight budget and they are a lot better than the un branded c*** that comes with most cases. Buy a hiper 4K580 instead for another €25 if you can afford it

savemejebus

the fortron bluestorm from pixmania is supposed to be a very good budget psu

gline

savemejebus wrote:

the fortron bluestorm from pixmania is supposed to be a very good budget psu

yeh id definitly recommend fortran, they are particularly good

Irishpimpdude

Conzy would that be an excellent system???

commited

If it was my €700..

AMD Opteron 144, 1.8GHz, Socket 939, 1MB, BOXED w/fan - €145
EPoX EP-9NPAJ, nForce4, Socket-939 ATX, 4xSATA/ATA, GbLAN, DDR, PCI-Ex16 - €86
AKASA Powersupply ATX/EPS 12V 400W 120mm Fan, SATA, 24/20pin - €68
NEC DVD±RW burner, ND-3550A, 16x, Dual, Silver OEM - €45.5
Samsung SpinPoint P120S 250GB SATA2 8MB 7200RPM NCQ - €121
Corsair TWINX1024-4400C25 DDR-DIMM 1024M Kit w/two matched CMX512-4400 CL2.5 DIMM - €219
Total: 684.5 + €10 for del

Opteron will clock well, The epox is a great board for stability & OC'ing, good power supply, well regarded DVD-rw, 250gb hdd space & that all important very fast 1gb of ram (although I'd prefer to get 2gb of slightly slower ram, and use the divider).

gline

commited wrote:

If it was my €700..

AMD Opteron 144, 1.8GHz, Socket 939, 1MB, BOXED w/fan
EPoX EP-9NPAJ, nForce4, Socket-939 ATX, 4xSATA/ATA, GbLAN, DDR, PCI-Ex16
AKASA Powersupply ATX/EPS 12V 400W 120mm Fan, SATA, 24/20pin
NEC DVD±RW burner, ND-3550A, 16x, Dual, Silver OEM
Samsung SpinPoint P120S 250GB SATA2 8MB 7200RPM NCQ
Corsair TWINX1024-4400C25 DDR-DIMM 1024M Kit w/two matched CMX512-4400 CL2.5 DIMM
Total: 684.5 + €10 for del

Opteron will clock well, The epox is a great board for stability & OC'ing, good power supply, well regarded DVD-rw, 250gb hdd space & that all important very fast 1gb of ram.

yeh thats a pretty good selection

Irishpimpdude

Is that whole system off komplett?

commited

Yup.

Just looking at shop4memory.ie and you could get "512Mb DDR RAM PC4000 - Crucial Ballistix" for €60, which is pretty amazing (stock clearance) Save yourself €100 and order a pair of these

http://www.shop4memory.com/products/ddr-ram.asp - slightly further than half way down.

Irishpimpdude

Just waiting for my ma to come back and get her cc to order that ram

Edit: That mobo can only support up to 3200 if i get the ram will it just make it run at 3200?

savemejebus

off topic: thanks for the heads up on that ram commited, was going to order it from crucial, you just saved me 50 euro. cheers

Irishpimpdude

im just bout to order it jebus... will it work with that mobo or would it be better to get a mobo that can support 4000?

savemejebus

the ram will slow down to run at the boards speed, but when you're overclocking you'll be able to take advantage of the extra speed.

unoverclocked it will run at 400mhz (pc 3200)- 200 front side bus/htt for amd BUT at fantastic timings - 2-2-2-5 so really fast!

overclocked it will run at 500mhz - 250 front side bus/htt for amd which will allow you to overclock more, and take advantage of the opteron

Irishpimpdude

kool just ordered it.. anyone know usually how long it takes shop4memory to deliver?

commited

They're good - a few days
Did you order 2 sticks, yeah?

Now.. Send me your savings!!

Irishpimpdude

yeah i ordered 2 sticks and no you wish lol!!!! thanks a million!!!!

conzy

Very nice system, shop4memory usually take 2 days, and sorry about the confusion with the memory divider earlier i was thinking of athlon xp systems, that ram is brilliant it runs a 500mhz buy the timing are still 2.5-2-2-5 and you can get it to around 520mhz with a little extra voltage:

http://www.extremeoverclocking.com/reviews/memory/Crucial-Ballistix-PC4000_5.html

IMHO the asus A8n-e would be better than the epox, epox make good boards but that asus has all the same settings and bios as a DFI lanparty ultra d which is a brilliant overclocker a lot of 3dmark records were set on that board and you can get it in komplett for €99

if you run a htt of 250 *9 that ram will fly at stock, but the cpu can do 2.6ghz easy so run a htt of 290 and use a divider, always keep the htt bus at 1000mhz or below there is no advantage in overcloking it and that does cause problems if it goes above 1000mhz so you will need to lower the hyper transport multi

brilliant system, good luck with it

Irishpimpdude

Thanks man i think im gonna go for an AMD Opteron 146, 2.0GHz is it worth the extra few quid?

conzy

No, its not worth it because they are the exact same only 200mhz difference and you are overclocking the system to 2.6ghz or more which is 600mhz better than the 146, the whole point of overclocking is to squeeze as much performance out of what you can afford;)

do you have windows xp, cause if you dont that is an extra €100

Irishpimpdude

Yes if i was to buy windows xp x64 would it make much of a difference?

gline

Irishpimpdude wrote:

Yes if i was to buy windows xp x64 would it make much of a difference?

no

Irishpimpdude

No difference at all?

gline

Irishpimpdude wrote:

No difference at all?

for normal usage... not really. minimul like 5% possibly

conzy

not really, it is hard to get 64bit drivers for everything as well so say goodd buy to printers,scanners cameras.........

and dong get vista when it comes out its riddled with DRM:mad:

Get windows xp home or professional and you can use a program like nlite to strip away the piesces of windows you dont want:

internet explorer
troubleshooting
welcome guide.....

basically any part of windows you dont use you cant get rid of it:D

conzy

look at this thread:

http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=61415

Irishpimpdude

Ok thanks so thats a definate no go!