US Presidential Election

Bazookatone

Today the most powerful nation on Earth goes to the polls to decide who's going to screw around with everyone else for the next four years.

Bazookatone

Sorry, somehow, the poll i wanted to put up here didn'tmake it, It's my own fault. Who do you want to win
A) Bush
Kerry

Just put A or B in a post and we'll count them.

Plunky

WHO voted for Bush?!

Hugh Hefner

Not me. Hell no!

It would seem to have been tibilt.

Plunky

It was Tibilt. who thinks that's the name of the prince of cats from R&J!.. of course, it's tybalt...
Anyway, figured out how to find out, yay!

Raphael

My opinion? A tree's about to fall on you, and you have the option of gettng squished by the tree of jumping off a cliff. Do you take certain death or a risk? That's the way I view the election. It could go either way if Kerry gets elected.... but Bush is much, much worse.

Plunky

How big is the tree?

Sleipnir

I saw some site today that did an international poll and Kerry got 77% of the vote
which is a pretty big landslide.

mentalimplosion

i hate it when people say the two are the same. they're not.

Piste

Today someone asked the class : 'Who would you vote for: Bush or Kerry?' Everyone said Kerry. What really annoyed me though is because hardly any of them knew why they prefered Kerry. They just heard so much anti-Bush stuff they had been brainwashed into thinking Kerry was a Perfect President.

Raphael

No, but they're pretty damn similar

Spraypaint

What you've got to ask yourself is:
Am I a christian fundimentalist idiot, who supports wars for oil based on lies, who has no problem with 1.7 million people losing their jobs in 4 years, who enjoys an intensely hierarchal capitolist society, who enjoys having a knuckle-dragging moron for a "leader", who places corporate kronies before the people, who sends kids to their deaths abroad for no just reason, who increases military spending and cuts funding to the poor and social amenities in tandem, who supports the forced implementation of hardline christian ideas on a diverse secular society and who supports a man who was selected rather than elected by his Dad's supreme court Kronies?
If you support a man who sat in a classroom in Florida reading "My Pet Goat" to himself in a classroom full of 4-year-olds while 3,000 people died as the twin towers fell, then by all means vote Bush.

If you have a conscience or any moral compass at all vote for the only viable alternative; the imperfect but still vastly superior Senator John Kerry.

mentalimplosion

If you support a man who sat in a classroom in Florida reading "My Pet Goat" to himself in a classroom full of 4-year-olds while 3,000 people died as the twin towers fell, then by all means vote Bush.

i've never actually got this bit though, i must be missing something. i always thought that he kept reading because a) he had to collect his thoughts on how to act (i mean this was a pretty big deal) and b) it'd be kinda rude/traumatizing for the poor 4-year-olds. like, it's My Pet Goat, not The Bonfire of the Vanities, it probably only had a couple of pages left.

so seriously, i am confused, somebody tell me what everyone expected him to do

Spraypaint

i am confused, somebody tell me what everyone expected him to do

ANYTHING AT ALL!!! except sit there and do nothing and read a book for 4 year olds. How about provide some Goddammed leadership in the biggest time of crisis in the mainland USA ever. Any action would have been better than inaction.

Piste

Well he couldn't exactly spring up, run to New York and Hold up the Twin Towers to prevent them from collapsing now could he? The damage was already done. By continuing reading 'My Pet Goat' He would have been able, as Ana said, to collect his thoughts and decide how to act.

It wasn't me!

I support you and Ana Liz but how many thought do you think the guy has?

Plunky

Out of interest, are people voting for Bush out of sympathy? For the shock value?

I mean here, not in the US

Piste

Well you see, knowing him there would have been a lot of thoughts going round his head such as 'I like cats, I hope no cats were hurt' and 'Daddy won't like this'. He had to go back to his texan roots and lassoo all these important thoughts together.

PurpleFistMixer

Aren't there more candidates? Like.. some guy from the Green Party?(Possibly Nader?) And others?
But yeah, out of those 2 choices, I'd say Kerry.

(And also, I heard Bush isn't actually from Texas. He's from like.. the east coast. Allegedly.)

Raphael

After reading the majority of the replies on this thread, I'd just like to say I'm damn glad that people need to be 18 to vote

It wasn't me!

Aonghus, shut up.

Guy:Incognito

Kerry

i love the way so may people drag out the "bush is brainwashing people and ruining the world" line. I think its fairly ironic seeing as most of you have been brainwashed by the like of michael moore and the like. Almost anybody can be made to look like a tyrannical lunatic when fed to people in the right way. What exactly do you people think kerry is going to do so differently? He has already stated the war on terror will continue under him and he will go to any lengtha to kill osama bin laden.

PurpleFistMixer

My ignorance on the matter is due to the fact that I can't vote... And also because everything is so god damned biaised that you can believe nothing you read/hear/see.

Plunky

*raises Hand*
I'm 18

mentalimplosion

eff off and die, aonghus, i'm a teenage girl with a keen interest in politics (one of the only ones it seems, i will admit), have grown up waist deep in political and media analysis and i know the facts. i want to study political science in trinity, and have done since i was about 10. i know an awful lot about this election, and american politics in general, quite possibly more than you do. so stop being a bloody pedant.

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pinkpimp

I believe that they are both equally bad choices, and neither is really worth my vote. I would, however, vote for Kerry. The only reason I would do this is because Bush has done enough damage so far, at least Kerry could be a better president, because theres little chance of him being worse. Also, a change of personnel might disrupt the flow of this shall i say destruction, and slow the process down.

It wasn't me!

Amen. Aonghus, we know in most areas you're probably more mature than the rest of us, ( :rolleyes: ) there's just no need to be so goddamn grumpy old man-esque here!

"In my day..."
"Price of tea.... <Insert muttering bitching and grumbling here>"

mentalimplosion

eh, in his arse he is. since when does spending your life online equal being more mature? :rolleyes:

pinkpimp

Don't forget,
"fifteen miles in the snow, uphill both ways. Didn't have shoes either, had to tie our laces around our bare feet"
A Classic.

Piste

What they need is a good ol' fashioned dictator. Or we could get rid off all the stupid americans by taking away their safety scissors and let them do that themselves........




Now there's an Idea..........

pinkpimp

They have a dictator in place. George bush has almost as much power as any given dictator, and abuses it aswell. He's no more democratic than Stalin or Hitler.