what to do next year?

ARGINITE

The first serious post on this board.
Any ideas on what to do next year regarding the GMITcs since i/we did very little this year?

Fungtank

I think you should get onto the technician now. They are setting up a new network system across the whole college. If you talk to them early then they could probably set up aome space on the network for the soc.

Eventually this could lead to lanning privileges and you'll have the space on the network for dedicated sever.ah-ha-ha theres nothing like a well layed plan!!

More and better noticing, for soc. events, around the college wouldn't go a stray either.

ARGINITE

those are all great ideas man i know you will help me with all of them!

vega_AH64

IF you can get me a free ghost account to download XXXXXXXX. i will supply you with 10 super servers for your future network traffic.
THese babies will be able to manage 8 bit processing a second which is hugh for this spec machine.
ALso on a higher note this form sucks ass and i hate it and any one who ever comes on it is just a nice boy


Dont ban me

ARGINITE

;/ me thinks u here to!

Fungtank

I'd gladly help but i won't be in the college after this year. Thank F*ck.

And Vega, who is "Hugh"

ARGINITE

one of his former men that he had living under his bed.
Is this just slightly off topic or is it just me?

vega_AH64

And Vega, who is "Hugh"

He was a former administrator from the GMIT that developed the concept of the pentium. He sold the idea to me but i lost it at the bus stop. Some body must have found it cause i think i heard something about pentiums benn sold in Ireland. But this is all just gossip.
I was thinking of developing a new pentium. I was going to call it the Pentium 4 (P4).
Would any one like to help me out here?
Could do with some advice?

ARGINITE

now boys and girls no more bloody spam in this thread it was ment to be for legit ideas. thx

vega_AH64

ok will not be a bold boy anymore. no more spam. bold vega.

i swear an oth to this form that i am a good lad and will not spam.

Fobia

How about ye get a server and give me a shell account on it? I've been in gmit for long enough now, havent I?

ARGINITE

As for shell accounts - i dont think so.
I taught you were a nuig person!

timeout

Well an AGM to start with and some new members. Then they can be asked what to do.

Intro to courses is always a good one. Get someone from year above to give a quick review of what to look out for. Like what lectures to attenda or where to get books/notes.

ARGINITE

thanks man always a help pitty you wont be around next year to greet all the new members: )
and pick a pr officer!

Asok

How about support groups for everyone who has had tony o leary?

On a more serious note im a "former" gmit student i.e i dropped out but if i can help with anything just give me a shout.

ARGINITE

Dont dis tony he is cool "The glasses make the man" when he is picking on somebody else and not you: )
thanks man
the first year of GMITcs was kinda a disaster.

Asok

Ah yeah the mans a living legend but tbh liam shaughnesy is the overall winner i'd say if ya got that man mental he has the skills to design your doom in cad and then whip up a device to kill you in materials and processes all of course with a bit of help from batman aka jim borge. ,

Aye when did ye form i didnt see anything about the soc before i left this year?

tman

what to do next year?

how about hearting less cock?
that goes for you too, Asok.

Asok

Originally posted by tman
how about hearting less cock?
that goes for you too, Asok.

T.I fanboy still eating yore lemons!

ARGINITE

actually this year just after christmas,
liam was dead cool really and his 4x4.
anyways have to study for a math's repeat.
so later.
please done argue its putting me of my study.

timeout

Originally posted by ARGINITE
thanks man always a help pitty you wont be around next year to greet all the new members: )
and pick a pr officer!

I'll be around to welcome them and i'll have a decent signup program with database access also

The pr person will be around next year. I'm sure their might be some other attractive women I can help promot also

ARGINITE

get out of here "with a taxi driver style kick"

po0k

I had a bit of a chat with some of ye at the last lan, but here's a few ideas (about to run out the door from work):

1. Write up some formal Society Constitution.
Hold an AGM, get official and legal-smart straight away. Make sure you cover the collective asses of the committee members and auditor well.
Will save you hassle in the long run.

2. Write up slides (powerpoint/Impress), book a room, advertise the ****e out of it and hope people turn up. About an hour is long enough for a tutorial.
Try an have at least one tutorial/talk/event/workshop every fortnight. If ye can do that consitently and actually have people show up, you'll be doing grand

3. Run events for ragweek, freshers week etc.
One thing I've done the last two years was a retro gaming session in the bar/college/somewhere with people.
You'll get alot of people coming up who are attracted by the shiney lights. And you'll also discover that the most unusual people will recognise some of the old games.
Plenty of dolly birds seem to remember Lemmings for instance.

4. Pimp Opensource software for people doing work.
GMIT has got a decent net connection doesn't it?
It's hooked up to ITNet afaik.
USE IT, IT'S THERE FOR EDUCATION.
YOU'RE SOCIETY'S PURPOSE IS TO INCREASE PEOPLE'S KNOWLEDGE AND SKILLS WITH COMPUTERS.
I can't see how they won't give you a connection and a few U of rackspace for a server.
ftp://ftp.heanet.ie has over a metric shitload of various linux distros.
Grab Debian, RedHat/Fedora, SuSE or Mandrake for beginners, offer it around (prehaps buy a spindle or 2 of decent CDRs+ plastic pockets, burn off a few copies of Mandrake Live or Knoppix, Setup a desk some monday and offer the first 25 free to people if they sign up, take orders from other people for the next week.
If people pay a €1 membership fee, they get a CD with a nice free powerful pretty OS in a week's time. Will build membership, and prehaps funding.
Maybe also ask people/members to donate a bit of money to the server fund.

5. Show a film or two during the year.
Terminator 2 prehaps.


Re: Server, network etc.
If they agree to give you a connection, try and ensure you easy access to the box if needed, that it's in a safe place, that it's plugged into a surge protector that isn't in danger of being pulled out when the cleaning lady needs to hoover.
Ensure that the actual network connection is 10Mbit Fullduplex or better.
by Network connection I mean the connection from the server to the GMIT lan.
Anything 1Mbit or above is good enough to start with.
External connectivity is more important than an ocean of bandwidth at the start.
You'll need to either run your own firewall on the box (IPtables), be able to request certain ports open/closed fairly easily or both.
Going from what I've heard before, it's important that you stress to whoever listens that linux is "more secure", "more educational", "more production standard" and above all is "free" (and in more than just the monetary sense).
You must also stress that the society is capable of adminning the box securely, will take responsibility for the actions of it's members/users and the other few things.
As for the machine itself, I would push you to try and go dual cpu if you can, and a RAID 1 pair of 120+Gig drives. At least that way if a drive dies, you need only RMA it, slap int he replacement, rebuild the array from teh good disk (simply copy stuff onto the new empty drive) and not a byte is lost.
Also, with RAID1 you'll get 2x the read rate over a single disk, though only 1x the write, as it's writing the same data to 2 disks, which takes the same amount of time.

I'm rambling now, but if you want a chat about the server, society or whatever (possibly over some frosty beverages), I can arrange a bit of a pissup some weekend in Galway before September.

ARGINITE

All really good points, best we have had so far.
The whole server thing will have to be explained properly.
Man when ever you have time i can get a few people together and we can chat about the server, society or whatever.

thanks.

Fungtank

I don't know aboot ye but next year i'll be mostly eating squeezy cheezy peas!!

wataru

Mmmm me thinks they did most of that stuff last year...

1. Write up some formal Society Constitution.
Hold an AGM, get official and legal-smart straight away. Make sure you cover the collective asses of the committee members and auditor well.
Will save you hassle in the long run.

They did that before christmas....

2. Write up slides (powerpoint/Impress), book a room, advertise the ****e out of it and hope people turn up. About an hour is long enough for a tutorial.
Try an have at least one tutorial/talk/event/workshop every fortnight. If ye can do that consitently and actually have people show up, you'll be doing grand

Yep there were oooh's , aahhhs, and the occasional "ohh bugger I've dropped my monicle"

3. Run events for ragweek, freshers week etc.
One thing I've done the last two years was a retro gaming session in the bar/college/somewhere with people.
You'll get alot of people coming up who are attracted by the shiney lights. And you'll also discover that the most unusual people will recognise some of the old games.
Plenty of dolly birds seem to remember Lemmings for instance.

Now this be an excellent idea... did the dudes in NUI do this before?

5. Show a film or two during the year.
Terminator 2 prehaps.

Yep they did this showed Ghost in the Shell which seemed apropriate enough...

as a side note is there an anime soc, or are the otaku wannabe's all in comp soc anyway, anyone up for marathon Cowboy bebop sess lol, just got whole set from singapore, *gloats*

ARGINITE

i know a few guys that probally would be up for that, wataru you were at the ghost in a shell fiasco?

timeout

Man that ghost in the shell thing just fell to pieces. Must simply use a DVD player rather then pc next time. Well if he was there it means it could only have been one of about 5 people:D

wataru

lol what happened? DVD compatibility issues?

Was it not in one of the new lecture theatres with their ceiling mounted projectors, The film society shows movies in them and it works pretty well, altho sound is mono and a wee bit low

ARGINITE

Ya one of the new rooms but the problem was that it was a Divx and the box it was on acted up and just general rubbish!
So I take it you missed it all: )
ah well.
Note to self
Next year at the start of the year we will have to set out what we attend to do during the year!

wataru

lol an .avi eh?
Well I have it on DVD for again,
I thought last year was supposed to be more of a test run, because of server probs and all the rest...

ARGINITE

It ended up being a test run one way or the other, we werent very organised.
we hope to rectify that this time round: )

timeout

So it will be tutorial one week, Cinema the next and once a month night out. That has got to attract some people's attention.

ARGINITE

ya something like that man but this time I would like to get an idea of who will be running what and when before the year begins. just so we can get some dates for what will be happening when, also to get people to help us with this server stuff.
hows the summer going man? find a job yet?

ARGINITE

sig - battle of the bulge one of the best episodes of BoB.
May be I can show that next year if people are interested.

brucecampbell

my god your all so concerned with what to do bout the com soc, i think it may have failed due to lack of communication!!so if yer to try it all over again, tell everyone whats happenin...
even the little girl who was dragged into it by accident!!!!

ARGINITE

Thanks for the support bruce!

Caliden

get the admins to let us use the computers to have a huge gane of DC some weekend or friday evening,
would be crazy!!!!

ARGINITE

normally we do that on friday or what ever time we have free in room 507/501 engineering department, but we normally play wolf et. dont know if we will be able to do that any more tho as they are changing the network over the summer and it will be all like the library/it building network where you cant do much!
so we will have to ask the admins next year!

gre_soul

yep your going to be in trouble there those guys run a fort knox.. ah well i managet to get kazaa/ftp/filetopia up and running last year, but mike k (admin) says that in the new system you would not even be able to install anything which sucks to extremes. BTW whoever is going into degree in Digital + SW eng this year good luck...you will need it

ARGINITE

ya your righ about fort knox, whats so bad about the degree in Digital + SW eng? I am ment to be going into it.

gre_soul

well 1st year is OK i suppose but 2nd year gets boreing fast and the room 508 (or 509 i think) is crap my advice is just do what your interested in and if you need any help with the assignments then let me know as they never change much over the years. oh by the way if i never have to hear the scrawny mumblings (weelll NOWW i dont knooo welll mmmmm ookaYY) of mike fahy again ill die a happy man

Redrocket

what sort of compsoc is it going to be?
when are ye planning to meet and what are ye planning to do at it?

im in carlowit compsoc, we meet twice a week, and all we do is play games.
its hard to co-ordinate everyone to play the same games and sometimes its plain old annoying having to setup the games for other people that dont know how all the time.

holy **** this is one spammy thread, wheres your mod?

ARGINITE

I know what you mean about mike fahy what a pin in the neither regions!
as for "holy **** this is one spammy thread, wheres your mod?" I am the mod thx!

Redrocket

ohhh nice to meet you, good job you're doing here.

what sort of compsoc is it going to be?
when are ye planning to meet and what are ye planning to do at it?

im in carlowit compsoc, we meet twice a week, and all we do is play games.
its hard to co-ordinate everyone to play the same games and sometimes its plain old annoying having to setup the games for other people that dont know how all the time.

ARGINITE

what sort of compsoc is it going to be?

how many different type of compsoc are their?
A few of us set it up last year and it didnt get very far as it only started after xmas and I had a few exams to get over. I was the head of it last year and didnt know that much about running a soc!

when are ye planning to meet and what are ye planning to do at it?

last year we tryed to meet at least once a month, but this didnt work very well.We did everything from give tutorials to gaming and tryed to setup our server and a number of student web sites. the server didnt get very far last year but next year i wont take NO for an answer.

Redrocket

if you get everything official and in writing you can get far when it comes to a server. im sure ye have some system there where you log onto any machine a drive is mapped to your account, for us we get a G drive for ourselves, and a H drive which is common to all students in that year.

for compsoc we got the techies to setup a compsoc account and a compsoci account and they created a 10gig S drive for us. so compsoc account could read from the S drive and compsoci had write access.

we take a lab, the closest one to the techies office, its got maybe 30 P4 2.8ghz 512mb ram machines with ****ty 64mb on board graphics. but i think we got sorted like those are good machines to have available. advertise at the start of your year, do ye have a clubs and societies day???? very good advetising there.

on clubs and socs day, we got two laptops, and set them up playing counter strike ( i hate that game ), we got an extremely high number of people to join from that advertising. next year i say we try to get maybe 4 laptops and a better game going.

we meet twice a week 5pm-10pm or thereabouts, which is better for keeping the soc alive, but bad as some people may not want to go twice a week.

games is always a problem, getting everyone to play the same game is always a problem, setting up and co-ordinating the games is always a problem, getting games to work on the computers is annoying as some games need write access to the c: or registry drive to work and we dont have that

pub time

ARGINITE

the soc was official it was just the tec's that didnt want anything to do with it. It will just take a little more work next year on the soc's part to get the server up and running.

"im sure ye have some system there where you log onto any machine a drive is mapped to your account, for us we get a G drive for ourselves, and a H drive which is common to all students in that year"

yes we do but what we want is our own server that we can access from out side the IT and also hosted websites on.

on the other hand we normally dont have a problem getting everybody to play the same game, everybody seems like et.

Redrocket

yeah ET is good fun if you know the maps
do your best to get a server, you should find it easier if you write down on paper what exactly you want the server for, like hosting games, websites, ssh, downloading/burning isos off heanet and so on. the college will be very restrictive though on the services allowed. thats if they are in anyway concerned about their network security

po0k

Don't mention gaming in any way, shape or form

You're a computer society.
You're there to promote, educate and provide additional computing resources to the students. This entails having a server which students can use, something that GMIT Comp Services can't really provide.
This also entails Open Source software (GNU Linux // BSD).

Grab a copy of a compsoc constitution from one of the socs around Ireland and take a look through it.

ARGINITE

our gaming take place out the soc.
This also entails Open Source software (GNU Linux // BSD) this the part that the tec's dont like because they think its means more work for them, theirs a long story behind this.

When we were setting up the soc we borrowed NUIgalways constitution: )
syx how and who talked the admins in yere palce into letting ye have a server?