RTÉ ONE doesn't show the Angelus

patrickmooney

On Saturday, due to continuing coverage of the EU enlargment cermony, RTÉ ONE went straight through the 6PM hour without showing the Angelus. Was this a first for RTÉ? Have religious groups been emailing in disgust? I wonder did anyone even notice?

Which begs the question, should RTÉ continue to show the Angelus, a sign of Catholicism, in what is now a very much multi-racial country?

Explosive_Cornflake

I ****ing hate the angelus so much.

Victor

Originally posted by patrickmooney
Which begs the question, should RTÉ continue to show the Angelus, a sign of Catholicism, in what is now a very much multi-racial country?

There are catholics of other races also. :rolleyes:

It's hardly that much of an imposition on your life is it?

patrickmooney

Getting back to the point, regardless of how it affects my life, is there a place for it on national public service television? If there is, why isn't there the Muslim call to prayer? Or taking it even further a subtle image at 11:30pm indicating last orders in all bars around the country? Where does public service broadcasting start and stop re pleasing both minority and majority groups?

More-over did anyone miss it from Saturdays TV? Perhaps RTÉ should have re-scheduled it for 7pm or moved it onto N2? Imagine those people who video-plus'd it, only it find it wasn't broadcast!!

Explosive_Cornflake

Videoplus the angelus? What (think viva la bam, cropton ass terry, with low waste band scene, there no need for the pants)
Its the same every day aint it.
It turns me off RTE.

rlogue

Putting the Angelus on national television at 6pm is in my opinion, a total anachronism in this day and age.

I can't understand why RTÉ persist with this practice - Ireland isn't the sort of country that stops on the toll of the Angelus bell anymore. It certainly was up to twenty five years ago, but those days are long gone.

The daily broadcasting of the Angelus started back in 1948 on Radio Éireann and has persisted on RTÉ Radio 1 and RTÉ One television since.

But this is not 1948 and we do not have a uniformly Roman Catholic culture in the country anymore.

So why does RTÉ persist with the Angelus?

watty

It should never have been on RTE ever.

A church station should feel free to broadcast it (e.g. ETWN, and do they?), but I can think of no reason at all why RTE should ever have don it on TV or Radio.

DMC

Just on the upper points, there have been loads of occasions where RTÉ TV don't get to show the Angelus. After all, when RTÉ 1 started a daytime schedule in the early 90's, they didnt automatically get the bongs out at noon! Radio 1 still has the twice daily "call to prayer".

You have to remember where we started from. On 31st December, 1961, in the opening show on Telefis Eireann, we had benediction.

In the UK, it was not uncommon for some ITV regions well into the eighties have a canon or vicar reading an epilogue at closedown. (Tyne Tees had them at start-up too!) BBC Radio 4 still has religious folk appear in the middle of the Today show.

watty or rlogue, did UTV ever show an epilogue?

I'd like to get the opinions of the new communities of what they think of the Angelus.

I would say that other faiths are jealous of the Angelus. Think about it. Prime time, national broadcaster, dominant faith still has a daily bong-fest. Only in the middle-east would you get this service!

My opinion on this is that I don't have one. I like the thought of a minutes peace and quiet before the doom and gloom of the news; a bit of a primer, if you will, for our governments ills.

What you are dealing with is the biggest pressure group in the country, and if Cathal Goan or any of his sucessors in the DG-ship of RTÉ remvoves this, a smoky place and a hand cart will be a comin'.

DMC

Oh, and I'm editing the poll, nowhere to spoil my vote

mike65

RTE is not the Roman Catholic Broadcasting Corporation, its a semi state. NO to the angelus.

Mike.

Elmo

I always think that if it just became a minute of peace, all inclusive of the Irish Population, SIMPLE PUT


That would be an Ecuminalical (sp?) matter.

I beleive that other religions dont have much of a problem with it.

I don't and I am a catholic

Okay the free presbetrians, but they dont like anything or anyone.

Charles Slane

We could all do with a minute's peace every day - but those loud bongs ain't gonna help you get it !!!:D

Mossy Monk

i'd agree with the scrapping of it. none of that carry on please

mickeyboymel

Its a wounder RTE have not got sponsership for The Angelus, seeing as they are so strapped for cash, and it has a good prime time spot, with all the biddies waiting for Six One.

Radio Telefís Eireann, its Six o Clock, now The Angelus, brought to you by..............?You could have images and all in the background, what an untapped potiential:D

patrickmooney

I couldn't agree more with sponsoring it. As a tax payer I feel RTÉ are wasting 6 hours a year of primetime television with a program which (1) hasn’t changed in over a year (2) isn't watched.

bus77

The Angelus gives the make-up people at RTE a few more vital seconds to prop Anne Doyle up.

I think the angelus is fine, leave it alone:rolleyes:

Ro

Originally posted by mickeyboymel
Radio Telefís Eireann, its Six o Clock, now The Angelus, brought to you by..............?You could have images and all in the background, what an untapped potiential:D

That's a great idea. The Angelus, brought to you by that cold crisp, beachwood aged Budweiser. And instead of that oul one whisking her pot, she could be sipping on a cold one watch the clydesdale horses passing her window.

bus77

Originally posted by patrickmooney
I couldn't agree more with sponsoring it. As a tax payer I feel RTÉ are wasting 6 hours a year of primetime television with a program which (1) hasn’t changed in over a year (2) isn't watched.

ffs, are you serious?

Its a religious thing, Im a pagan f*****r but Im not that bad.

"The Angelus, Sponserd by Gillette, the best a man can get........BONG.......BONG.....BONG...

If ya dont go for the religious angle, then the Angelus is the one thing that makes our national news differnt to all the others, that alone is a great reason to keep it imo

Ro

Maybe the oul one could be shaving so...

Go Figure!

Originally posted by patrickmooney
On Saturday, due to continuing coverage of the EU enlargment cermony, RTÉ ONE went straight through the 6PM hour without showing the Angelus. Was this a first for RTÉ? Have religious groups been emailing in disgust? I wonder did anyone even notice?

This has happened a number of times before and to the best of my knowledge there were no complaints. Bizarrely they used to never be shown on Christmas Day. I would say that if they quietly phased them out the schedule gradualy very few people would even notice or care. I hope so anyway as I can't stand them.:mad:

Elmo

Did ye see the Blizzard of Odds take on the new look angelus?

Mossy Monk

no, do tell about it

Elmo

Blizzard of Odd Angelus

Two Drunks pissing on the street look up in reflection, as they hear the bells
A Hooker steps back for the car (from which she is looking for business ) and looks up in reflection as she hears the bells
Two guys beating up another stop to reflect as the hear the bells

ETC. ETC.

stuartfanning

ROI is only slightly multi-cultural compared with the UK and other European countries. It's still overwhelmingly a Catholic country. Outside Dublin most people would oppose the dropping of the Angelus.

Elmo

Outside Dublin most people would oppose the dropping of the Angelus.

Have you ever ventured outside of Dublin?

I assume that most people wouldn't bat an eye lid, other then the fact that:-

the indo
the times
the star
the sun
etc etc

would prob have it on their front page.

All of which are Dublin/Brit papers.

Do you know the total amount of Catholic from other countries coming to this country?
Just because you have a different culture doesn't mean you have a different Religion.

This is a major problem with Ireland, most people think of culture as Catholism or Religion when it is not the case. (while religion plays an influence)

But then most Irish Culture now a days is mixture of British and American and a drop of Guinness.

The Real B-man

Bin it if you want religion watch the GOD channel

BuffyBot

They removed call the religious icons from it, and now it's billed more as a moment of reflection. I doesn't particularily bother me to be honest.

Mike 1972

Im a pagan f*****r but Im not that bad

Would that be a druid pagan or a wicca pagan ?

It (Ireland)'s still overwhelmingly a Catholic country

The old "might is right" argument :mad:

I think youll find that practicing Catholics are no longer a majority in Ireland. (although as a large minority they are still a lot more influential than most people realise) Even "outside Dublin" (some of those culchies are really "with it" these days you know. A lot of them even have colour TV's !)

Although most people in Ireland (ROI anyway) seem to feel that while it may be a curious relic of a bygone age they dont particularly care strongly about the issue either way. Unfortunately !

Our man in Havana

Originally posted by bus77
The Angelus gives the make-up people at RTE a few more vital seconds to prop Anne Doyle up.

LOL:D
And to charge up the de-fibulator:D

The Brigadier

The main reason it is still on air is because according to census figures, 98% of Ireland is catholic...

Well I don't know about you, but I know only one practicing Catholic.

Maybe if census forms were filled out properly, the Catholic Church wouldn'd have the lobbying power it does...

I don't think the Angelus would be on if say 40% of Ireland was declared athiest??

Our man in Havana

Maybe if census forms were filled out properly, the Catholic Church wouldn'd have the lobbying power it does...

I worked on the last census and I don't think that many of my forms were filled in correctly.