NWN Persistent World

Rev Hellfire

I've decided to change the nwn server over to a persistent world while the games arent on.

So give me opinions.

LoLth

The world of Rhun sounds great but is HotU only. Arcanium gives a good variety of choice and the fact that it's author allowed comments and seems to be constantly working on it to improve it tipped the balance in it's favour over Sevriss for me.

Rev Hellfire

Arcanium actually requires both expansion packs!
Think at this stage we're better going with either none or just hordes

LoLth

Yeah, to use the NWN only version you have to forego any fixes he has made since v2.6.

I think it is about time we went for a HotU server. I've been keeping the modules to basic NWN as much as possible but it is getting much harder to find suitable ones. And anyway, HotU is well worth buying for the scenario alone

Rev Hellfire

Ok, for now I've put world of Rhun up on the server.
The server page on darkkeep shows that it requires both expansions but that may be just an error, since the nwnvault page says its HotU only.

MarVeL

Serviss R3 looked interesting with the vampirism and lycanthropy

Rev Hellfire

Tell u what I'll extend the poll until sunday, and then switch over to Serviss on saturday evening.
that way ppl can see a bit of both.

Mouserat

I discovered something annoying about Ruhn last night.
Sunday night I bloodymindedly spent the best part of an hour
wandering around Etum taking notes in my journal on where the
people who gave each mission were standing. This worked out great
as after doing this I managed to complete 7 quests in around an hour
and a half, rather than what used happen was you'd complete a quest,
but then couldn't find where to get your reward.

Unfortunatley, when I connected last night, all the quest people had
been moved, and this is a bit of a put off. If it only happens every time
the server is rebooted than it's not so bad, but if they move around
every 24 hours or so then it would mean surveying most of the city of
Etum each time you want to go completing quests. :dunno:

I know they move after you complete their quests, but as far as I know
there aren't that many high level people running around on Ruhn
completeing the real tricky stuff? Or are there....??


Anyway, if anyone wants to get together on Ruhn during the week sometime, I've found a minotaur maze which should have a wizards tower at the end of it, and I think 3 quests in the place...sounds difficult, will need backup.

Mouserat

checked back into Ruhn last night for a few minutes...the people havn't moved, so I think it's something that happens when you shut down the server and restart.
So anyone doing quests on the persistant world, note that all the locations for them get reset each monday.

Rev Hellfire

Thats lolth not saving the game and relaoding the save point

tut tut tut

LoLth

eeek!

Does the PW not reset whenever the server is empty? I logged out last week and logged back in straight away and all quests were back, all people I killed were alive again (after all my hard work.. the ingrates!).

Mouserat

the people you kill for quests respawn fairly quickly (within a few minutes usually), and the people who you do the quests for just reappear somewhere else in the city after you claim your reward (also within a few mintues, maybe even instantly).

It can be a right bastard to find them again though. I re-surveyed Etum over last night and the night before and came across one or two new quests, but i'm still missing 4 or 5 of the old ones. And I killed a vampire in the castle cellars, has anyone ever come across anyone looking for a vampires heart?

Oh never mind me, just rambling. I've got a character there up to 10th level though, he's meaner than my monday nights character by a fair bit...got better kit too :ninja:

MarVeL

The vampire in the castle cellar is the initial clerics quest. You could try the guy in the temple but it may be clerics only

Mouserat

if any of you are going to go playing one of the nights this week let me know and we can team up. Im working late this week too, so sometime after 9:30 or 10 is best.

MarVeL

I'l probably see you there at some stage so (though by now I may just end up slowing you down as I haven't been in for a few days)

Mouserat

I doubt it. On your own you're still very vulnerable - went back to Prourks cave last night to get his sword, and the goblins killed me the first time round after he paralyzed me for a few minutes straight. They'd been beefed up with lots of extra warriors though, so by the time I found him I was still marginally up in XP.

Mouserat

MarVel - pity you got disconnected last night, I was looking forward to killing that thing. After you left I went off to the glacial hills and like I expected, found a shop with better equipment and spent around 30,000 there (i'm broke again now).

Next time we arrange a game I can teleport back to town, you can give me money for items you want, I can zap back to the shop, then back to the town, then we can both teleport back to that fight.

I can do this as I discovered another teleport in town that I can use, so I havnt wiped my recall point from my guild teleport. Very neat.

Also, realised we should also get some sort of true seeing spells for that fight...darkness you know.

MarVeL

Damn PC bluescreened twice on me. I really need to get more RAM / upgrade whole PC as I'm on the bare limit for NWN a lot of the time. As far as the true seeing goes it was me who cast darkness on him so I could run away Might see you in there tonight

Mouserat

I'll probably drop in myself in an hour or so

Mouserat

more bluescreens last night?

MarVeL

Yes and now the PC is lying scattered around the room. Hopefully it will be back together and working by tonight. Only seems to be NWN though. Must check drivers etc

Mouserat

Mine has been hanging around once a day as well during NWN for the past few weeks. It may have digital herpes..

NeoSlicerZ

are we allowed to port chars in?

Rev Hellfire

As a rule most servers will not allow people to import characters in, to much chance of hacked characters etc.

Djeryv

Hello All,

In response to some issues I read on the forum...


To Mouserat...

There are 40 quests in Etum for people to do (not counting the guild quests). When the server restarts, they randomly start in one of a number of locations. If you complete a quest for them, they randomly teleport to another location in Etum. I did this so people could not run back and forth all day long, doing the same quest. The Vampire Heart you speak of is for the Cleric's Quest only. These guild quests are a way for a character to get the special recall item for their guild. I made travel as painless as possible in Rhun so people can log in and (hopefully) have fun right away without running for a 1/2 hour to get somewhere.

To LoLth...

The people in the towns/cities of Rhun will respawn back (just as everything else). The townspeople respawn alot quicker than monsters because I didn't want a ghost town for other players. So this is by design.

- Djeryv

LoLth

Thanks Djeryv and welcome to the forums

quick lads, pump him for spoilers and hidden stuff!!!

Mouserat

cheers Djeryv, I enjoyed playing Rhun, it's a good layout.

Nicely layered challenges too.

There are some nice hidden goodies I've stumbled across - an example is theres a nice shortcut to get from Etum to the Tuger swamp, and theres a secret grove where the little folk will trade a few fancy magic items with you....

Djeryv

Make sure to check the Mage Guild if you are strong enough...


Has anyone made it to the Island of Taer?

-Djeryv

Mouserat

couldn't find how to get there! Not for lack of looking.

I've one high level guy on the server who I think could make it to the abyss (he can take the Ice Blade hold easy enough), but he's scared to go without backup. Volunteers?

Celt

Reading this thread has convinced me to re-install NWN + SOU + HOTU.

Djeryv

!!!WARNING!!!
!!!SPOILER BELOW!!!

I might of have made it too hard to find. There are a couple of ways to get there. One is from the tower in Hagar Swamp. Bryban (the dragon on the south shore of Rhun) will also take you there. There is an obelisk on the island so if you find that, you can teleport out there in the future.

- Djeryv

Mouserat

thanks Djeryv, thats another evening written off

Celt: a very sensible move. I just bought the internet at home for the first time about two months ago, and I've saved a fortune on beer. Except for the evenings i'm both drinking and playing games - I've yet to come up with a good excuse for those.

Djeryv

Sorry.

His name is Amnathkyl and he is a Bronze Dragon.

- Djeryv

Mouserat

Djeryv, it's a great module you did, out of interest,
how long did it take to make Ruhn?

I've used some level creating stuff for other games, whats
the Neverwinter package like?

Djeryv

Rhun took about 180 hours to make after I had the design document done. I think the design document took about 10 hours to get together. The design document covers...

1. The World Story
2. The Zone Layout
3. The Monster Spawns

The side stories and boss monsters were created as I went along. There is little detail in the design document so I add the detail as I was building. This was my first module so I learned alot of things from it. I am hoping to make a better module now. We'll see I guess.

The NWN Toolset is really simple to use. Making the world layout is really easy. The scripting does take some effort to get used to, but once the templates are done, the rest are easy.

I started to recreate Everquest with the toolset, but as I was building...I realized that recreating something is rather annoying. You are more worried about doing things the same so you get frustrated when you cannot recreate someone elses work. Creating your own story line and world are much easier.

- Djeryv

LoLth

I've been tinkering with mod creation but it is always the scripting that puts me off.

I love the way you've worked the city (though being able to fight the guards or at least escape them would be nicer! yes, I play a thief).

side note: for spoilers use [ spoiler ] and [ / spoiler ] without spaces to hide the text

Djeryv

I made the justice system this way because there were alot of people (before I made Rhun public for download) logging in with their level 20s and killing guards cuz they didn't want to explore outside the city. You can play a thief but there are consequences (as in real life). If you are caught doing crime in the city, your best bet is to run and get to the Tavern in the Rural District. There is a drow in there that can be bribed to help clear your bad faction with the guards, townsfolk, ect.