Batman or Superman?

Ragamuffin · 26-01-2004 4:24pm #1

Who is better?

krattapopov · 26-01-2004 4:26pm

there both bloody great

Ragamuffin · 26-01-2004 4:32pm

I think Superman is better because he can fly and is very strong but all batman has is gadgets and can glide if he falls off a building. Though I have to say Batman looks more slick.:cool:

Cable · 26-01-2004 4:44pm

You're not gonna seriously have this conversation are ye?

I mean it's pointless comparing, big deal Superman can fly, he has to rely on our sun to keep him going, and Batman has his main weakess in his belt,

See what Im saying? Both have HUGE weaknesses and both rely on something to keep them going... (Take Superman to another solar system and he's as weak as a baby, give batman back his childhood and i bet he grows up to be a snotty like god knows what)

neXus9 · 26-01-2004 5:23pm

Geez, no need to be so serious cable. I was only looking for peoples opinions. I'm not a hard-core comic lover so I don't think this question is as 'pathetic' as you said.:p

Ragamuffin · 26-01-2004 5:26pm

That was supposed to be me.:o

][cEMAN** · 26-01-2004 5:53pm

Got some serious schizophrenia going on there nexus (nice aphex twin sig btw).

Cable I think the matter at hand isn't how they compare v other people or under x conditions, but just a general question between someone who likes them both. So please calm it man - you're just going off on one for no apparent reason. If you don't like the thread just back away from it man - it's not worth it...

As for the question - Batman definately. Brains over braun. And besides Supes gave him some kryptonite to use against him if he ever turned bad again. Didn't he?

Ragamuffin · 26-01-2004 6:14pm

I've used my brother's profile by accident!!!!!!

dangerman · 26-01-2004 6:27pm

batman vs. superman comes down to one comic, the best comic of all time.

The Dark Night Returns.

THE BEST COMIC OF ALL TIME.

Buy it now. Link.

Ragamuffin · 26-01-2004 6:32pm

dangerman-batman vs. superman comes down to one comic, the best comic of all time.

So who wins?

dangerman · 26-01-2004 7:48pm

Ragamuffin:

ive put who wins in spoilers, cause if u ever read the comic it would completely ruin it if u c what i say.

its not a straight up fight, its an arranged fight, batman proves he could beat superman, but chooses not too, then it seems as though superman kills him.... but he doesnt, fakes his own death. its a long story, but in the end batman beats the ****e out of superman, greatest comic ever ever ever.

if this is slightly inaccurate, its cause i havent read it in years. but i think i got the gist right.

Ragamuffin · 26-01-2004 10:15pm

Thanks Dangerman.:D I ended up reading the spoiler because I don't really read comics. Poor (you know who):( Is there any other good comics which has two superheros battling to the death????

Cable · 27-01-2004 12:15pm

I didnt mean to have a go at anyone, its just if this thread started we'd end up with more spin offs... ie hulk vs the thing,

But in every comic where theres been a confrontation between superman and batman (and theres been quite a few)

batman has always come out the better (even without using the piece of kryptonite is his belt). It may not happen while the fight is going on , but Batman has always come out on top (just like Dangermans spoiler) <edit> if you link your statement to his without a spoiler, then it negates Dangerman's spoiler - ][cE

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Kold · 27-01-2004 5:10pm

Gladiator

Unpossible · 27-01-2004 5:57pm

I was hoping for a bigger punch up in the JLA vs Avengers series.

batman is way cooler, darker

neXus9 · 27-01-2004 8:05pm

I don't get what your saying, Cable. (in your edit thingy):(

Cable · 28-01-2004 11:18am

What I was saying neXus9 is that if you go back in all the fights that have ever happened, superman has always started out by beating the crap outa batman, but before the end of the story, batman has always been the better...just like dangerman's spoiler, every fight has been something similar to that fight

][cEMAN** · 28-01-2004 1:03pm

I had edited cables post. The reason for doing so was because a previous post had been put in spoilers by the writer. Cables reply (without spoilers) basically gave away the ending by saying "x happens in all superman v batman battles".

Obvious he still hasn't caught on - we'll see how long he takes to think to put it in spoilers :P

Unpossible · 28-01-2004 3:14pm

I assume cables sig reffers to the marvel comics character of the same name, who was put forward into the future, then came back and is still struggling with life and trying to kill apocolypse (sp).

KlodaX · 28-01-2004 3:36pm

'Does the Iceman come with a detachable cape and convertable icemobile?'
.. excellent.. I'll take 3 please

I think Ragamuffin is Nexus9 with glasses on ... Ragamuffin by day ... Nexus9 by night

back on topic:

speaking of which... isn't this topic sort of cliche?

... I suppose most good things are.

Batman wins... don't ask stupid questions.

AngelofFire · 28-01-2004 10:43pm

Batman would win. he is much cleverer and far more calculating than superman. plus batman could get his hands on kryptonite.

Davey Devil · 28-01-2004 10:58pm

It's irrelivent, a new power will kick both of their asses, whoooppp whoooop, "Paintrain" coming through, the winner: Terry Tate.

Cable · 29-01-2004 11:37am

I didnt spoil anything in my second post? i just refered back to dangermans spoiler, and pointed what happens in EVERY fight between the two

(that and i dont know how to do the spoiler thing anyway)

TheSonOfBattles · 29-01-2004 11:46am

To spoiler something simply type the word spoiler in [] at the start of a sentence, and the word /spoiler in [] at the end of the sentence you wish to spoiler. The / is nessecary by the way. I'll make an example down below, but throw in a | just so that you can see it.

[SPOI|LER] Insert spoiler here [/SPOI|LER]

Same can be used for a few other codes to put in things like colours, font changes, size changes, links and quotes.

B in [] makes bold, /B in [] finishes bold.
I in [] makes italic, /I in [] finishes italics.
U in [] makes underline, /U in [] finishes underline.

I'd explain the rest only I can't be arsed, the buttons at the top of the page do the exact same thing tbh. And there's prolly already a guide in the newbie section or something if you really wanna now.

Cable · 29-01-2004 11:49am

Cheers,

So now that EVERYONE in the thread is agreed with the fact that batman is the better...now where to go with it? No one has actually made a positive argument in Mr. Kents favor?

][cEMAN** · 29-01-2004 12:10pm

Mr Kent has better people skills

Oh and to your previous comment - saying that

Batman wins every time

gives away the ending because......batman wins. She asked who won and the spoilers went up so as not to spoil the ending for people who haven't read it.

Think you might want to go back and edit your own post again? Just using this to explain the whole spoiler issue and how generalised comments like that mean that you ruin it for people who might not have ready any batman v superman books (like myself). I guessed the ending but I didn't know. Which means it is now spoiled for me

Cable · 29-01-2004 12:15pm

Mr. Kent may have the people skills but Mr. Wayne has the car,
"the chicks dig the car"

Kold · 30-01-2004 8:16pm

Come on like... Gladiator is PURPLE... and he has a MOHAWK! TeH w1n

neXus9 · 30-01-2004 11:37pm

Hey Iceman, I made the post entitled 'SH*T!' into a new thread by mistake.:o Sorry:( I was supposed to put it in here:D

Ragamuffin · 30-01-2004 11:39pm

Sorry that was supposed to be me!

Ragamuffin · 31-01-2004 12:09pm

Oh and to your previous comment - saying that """I don't know how to do spoilers""wins every time gives away the ending because......batman wins. She asked who won and the spoilers went up so as not to spoil the ending for people who haven't read it.

Were you talking to me there?

passive · 31-01-2004 11:22pm

Oh and to your previous comment - saying that spoiler:
Batman wins every time
gives away the ending because......batman wins

ha..i think you missed a second spoiler there

monkeymagic · 02-02-2004 1:23am

Batman himself said it in 'Hush' the only reason he wins is because Clark always holds back, kryptonite or no kryptonite.

][cEMAN** · 02-02-2004 10:51am

No I was talkin to Cable. TBH I give up on spoilers in this thread - no point really hehe.

You've outted the truth - batman apparently always wins. Now it's hardly worth me reading any batman v superman books

Cable · 02-02-2004 4:34pm

Dont give up just yet Iceman, they may write a story where Superman pummels poor Wayne (unless theres already one out there we dont know about....hmm)

Ragamuffin · 02-02-2004 7:35pm

Can kryptonite actually kill superman or does it just bring Superman to a normal humans' strength?

the raven · 03-02-2004 10:49am

don't do this to yourself iceman!! you knew the titanic sank in 1912 but you probably went to see the movie!! knowing the ending can never be a reason to deny oneself "the dark knight returns"!!! it is one of the best batman stories.

but to all out there who've heard of a sequel: there's no such thing.

well maybe there was but it was the worst load of sh1te to come outa Miller in quite a time. ..... so so dissappointing

][cEMAN** · 03-02-2004 11:14am

Well I didn't go to see it in the cinema and tbh would rather not have had to watch it ever (hate that film) but I was made to sit through it by my g/f

As for the books, from the reviews that people seem to be praising it with, I might get my hands on a copy of Dark Night Returns. However it will have to be in a couple of months when i've paid all the bills and start collecting again. For the meantime i've just gotten a new house in the last couple of months and have had to stop orders until all bills get regulated. Doesn't mean I won't still get comics though because my orders from america are backlogged for about 6 months, so i'll still be getting shipments for another 2 months

Must actually get around to reading my copy of "God loves man kills" which was meant to be the basis for the X-Men 2 story line.

Unpossible · 03-02-2004 11:58am

whats the point of posting something if its going to be blanked out by spoilers?? is there a way we can read them?

Unpossible · 03-02-2004 12:00pm

wait its ok i figured out how they work

Cable · 03-02-2004 1:49pm

Can kryptonite actually kill superman or does it just bring Superman to a normal humans' strength?

I've seen it reduce him to below human strenght (couple of thugs get him i think??)
So I guess if he were left alone with stuff long enough it would kill him, not too big on Superman stories so I wouldnt really know

Unpossible · 03-02-2004 3:59pm

As far as I can gather kryptonite is radioactive, it affects humans as well but takes longer for them to feel the effects, it affects superman more rapidly. Thus it can kill superman

TheSonOfBattles · 03-02-2004 9:57pm

Originally posted by Unpossible
As far as I can gather kryptonite is radioactive, it affects humans as well but takes longer for them to feel the effects, it affects superman more rapidly. Thus it can kill superman

IIRC Lex Luthor gets cancer or something in the JLA cartoon due to prolonged exposure. The guy carried a piece of krytonite in a case in his breast pocket for years on end from what I remember. Not a big superman fan at all though, so don't take this all to canonically.

I prefer Batman by the way, mainly because goody two shoes characters like superman just don't fit right with me. They seem a bit to unreal for even comics. No one's perfect, and superman/captain america and all those seem to come across that way. They never have to fight inner demons, squash urges etc which takes away from the essential humanity and link to reality comics need in my opinion. Batman is a lot grittier, darker and angsty which I find is really cool. He does fight with himself the whole time and the fact that he hides his identity and shies away from revealing to much of himself is part of what makes him a great character. He's sacrificed his right to have a life, so that others lives won't be disrupted by crime etc.

Also, Batman just looks a whole lot cooler tbh. The whole dark atmosphere he wraps himself in: cape, mask and gadgets is way cooler than Supermans bright, airy fairy look.

Unpossible · 04-02-2004 3:01pm

Yeah i prefer batman for the same reason, also its one of the reasons why i like x-men, they're not acknoledged superheros like the avengers. Also wolverine is fantastic in his comics, far better than his goody two shoes character in the cartoons and films

Ragamuffin · 04-02-2004 7:11pm

I think Superman is better because he can fly and is very strong but all batman has is gadgets and can glide if he falls off a building. Though I have to say Batman looks more slick.:cool:

TheSonOfBattles · 05-02-2004 3:43am

Why the hell did you repeat the exact same response you had put in earlier?

As for Wolvie, I've said it before, his character has a lot of potential, but its really abused by lazy writers. Typical plot = wolverine goaded into fight by guy who thinks he can beat him, he starts to beat wolverine, but then threatens him or someone/thing he loves, and wolvie goes near or total berserk and whoops him. The odd time they mix it up by adding in the tag in the storyline that wolvie is on the hunt for answers to his past, but wait, by the end he's found a sum total of NOTHING out about his past. Gee what a shock, it's only happened tens of times before. :dunno:

Ragamuffin · 05-02-2004 5:23pm

TheSonOfBattles
Why the hell did you repeat the exact same response you had put in earlier?

I said it to say my point again.
Calm Down:cool:

TheSonOfBattles · 05-02-2004 5:27pm

Originally posted by Ragamuffin
I said it to say my point again.
Calm Down:cool:

I'm not angry, though I suppose the word hell gives across that I was at least annoyed, it's just that it was decidedly.....pointless and spammy. If your going to try and defend your point of view and Mr. Kent as well, you could at least debate it properly, rather than just point out that one can fly, and is superstrong. Maybe this is exactly what you like about the character, but if it is, why repeat it? Was it simply because no one else was defending the guy, and you felt you had to?

Ragamuffin · 05-02-2004 5:51pm

LOL you sound like a pychologist:D

americanCat · 05-02-2004 5:55pm

personally, i prefer batman..but that might just be because i know more about him, he's human, he wears all black, and he's not perfect. unfortunately, i don't read/watch that much superman..
~cat~

][cEMAN** · 05-02-2004 5:58pm

Originally posted by Ragamuffin
I think Superman is better because he can fly and is very strong but all batman has is gadgets and can glide if he falls off a building. Though I have to say Batman looks more slick.:cool:

I just noticed this thanks to The SOB. Ragamuffin please don't repeat posts as it's simply spamming the thread and I don't really want to see any spamming nomatter how well intentioned you might think it is.

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