Budget '03

L4 · 03-12-2003 3:11pm #1

I hope McCreevy gets his act together and raises taxes on Farmers and the high earners. Don't mind the rise in prices of Ciggerettes, it's this shower that should be targeted. I would suggest an increase in their taxes to fund out-reach like schemes in low earning areas such as Innercity Dublin or Limerick etc.
They are constantly pondering about what should be done with the 'scumbags' that roam around estates causing a wave of petty crime. Well maybe a few good community schemes in these areas would give the youngsters something to do, instead of running around spitting on pavements. I'm sure the country hicks in their 5 bedroom house could do without a new car this year, or a new plasma screen t.v for their bedrooms. It might narrow the gap between the 'scumbags' and the wonderfull wealthy folk who enjoy 3 holidays a year.. I know a few won't go for such a suggestion on this board, as one poster called me a "lower class piece of sh*t" on another thread. Those kind of people are beyond reproach and should be relocated to Darndale or St. Marys in order for them to see life outside their golf clubs and fine communitys.

Imposter · 03-12-2003 3:14pm

I'm convinced you're a troll now!

Kone · 03-12-2003 3:15pm

I concur

L4 · 03-12-2003 3:18pm

Look, honestly.. I'm not a troll, actually it's called a WUM this side of the Atlantic.
I do believe that taxes should be raised for the big earners.

Imposter · 03-12-2003 3:23pm

Originally posted by L4
Look, honestly.. I'm not a troll, actually it's called a WUM this side of the Atlantic.
I do believe that taxes should be raised for the big earners.

Right i'm going to humour you for a while.

What's a big earner? Give us a rough idea.
All farmers or just the farmers that are big earners?
Why not reduce dole payments for those fit to work and then those on the dole will be forced to get a job and value money?
Why not build more prisons, with any extra tax, and actually imprison these scumbags?

Kalina · 03-12-2003 3:25pm

First you target students then farmers!!
Why don't you back up your arguments a little better? I mean, you can't just make a statement like "I'm sure the country hicks in their 5 bedroom house could do without a new car this year, or a new plasma screen t.v for their bedrooms." without backing it up and without getting some serious critiscism from other posters.

L4 · 03-12-2003 3:32pm

Well before new prisons are built maybe the existing ones should be kept open. Clover Hill & Spike are supposed to be closed down. But Ideally yes more is required.
Obviously small farmers don't fit in the bracket of high earners*.

I don't think the dole should be reduced, but more rigerous qualifing conditions should be applied.

*For example: Double earners in high paid jobs with large houses, 2+ cars and a few smelly student children in Trinity or UCD etc.

Imposter · 03-12-2003 3:40pm

Maybe double earners need their 2 cars for getting to their 2 jobs and large house is a result of them having 2 earners!

Surely taxing people on an individual basis would solve this. Sure the single earner family would have less money but then the other partner could always get a job. What do you think of that. More money in the coffers too.

Maybe ban college altogether. It's not as though we need Doctors, engineers or anyone else anyways. That would solve the smelly student problem and save the government a fortune.

L4 · 03-12-2003 3:42pm

Now your just being immature.

Imposter · 03-12-2003 3:47pm

Stupid maybe but immature no. But then again nowhere near as stupid as your suggestions but at least I was doing it intentionally.

Kalina · 03-12-2003 3:49pm

Sarcasm will be lost on L4, Imposter!!

L4 · 03-12-2003 3:50pm

Well I'm not looking of your vote in some 'campus election' so if you don't like what I have to say, fair enough. I wouldn't imagine you would be willing to sacrifice your spare beamer or spring holiday in Florida.

SuprSi · 03-12-2003 4:05pm

I also think that there should be an extra tax bracket for higher earners, and by high I mean over 60k or something like that. I don't agree with taxing farmers, but I don't really know enough about how much they earn to debate it. The community scheme thing is a good idea on paper, but how many 'scumbag's are going to want to give up spitting on a kerb to go and do something decent?

embee · 03-12-2003 4:06pm

Originally posted by L4
I don't think the dole should be reduced, but more rigerous qualifing conditions should be applied.

Rigourous qualifying conditions? You have to be unemployed to get the Dole.
So what, in your eyes people should be REALLY REALLY unemployed?

You sir, are a buffoon.

Devious · 03-12-2003 4:09pm

Can i assume from your comments that you never aspire to be a "high earner" L4? Or is it just too late for you?

L4 · 03-12-2003 4:15pm

Listen Embee if you don't know what I mean, think about it again. Think of other ways a person would qualifer more than another. Students :rolleyes:

FAO: Supersi, there is nothing but prison waiting for todays scummers. I'm talking about the future scumbags. Stop them in their track. It wouldn't stop all future thugs, but they would wittle down and there'd be less and less as the years go by. To suggest that the cycle of Dirtbags can't be stopped is defeatest, look at NY circa 1980's, O.K it's hardly a safe haven now, but it's a hell of a lot safer than it was 20yrs ago.

embee · 03-12-2003 4:17pm

Students cant claim the Dole. You dope.

L4 · 03-12-2003 4:20pm

Good jaysus :rolleyes:

I was rolling my eyes at you. Your a bit slow aren't you dum dum.

dod · 03-12-2003 4:34pm

Details in brief here

kaimera · 03-12-2003 4:37pm

lets round up all the *wealthy* and send them to Limerick.

quick and easy way to sort them out.

L4 · 03-12-2003 4:38pm

F**kin 25% increase on ciggerettes. Bastards.

kaimera · 03-12-2003 4:41pm

Originally posted by L4
F**kin 25% increase on ciggerettes. Bastards.

ROFLMFAO

embee · 03-12-2003 4:47pm

25%?????????

Are you sure?

Sure it wasnt 25 CENTS......

Now whos slow on the uptake.....

GuanYin · 03-12-2003 4:53pm

Originally posted by embee
25%?????????

Are you sure?

Sure it wasnt 25 CENTS......

Now whos slow on the uptake.....

Pffft... even the studenst got that right, maybe if L4 had an education......

L4 · 03-12-2003 4:53pm

The person who told me was 'slow on the uptake' thank you very much.

embee · 03-12-2003 5:05pm

Originally posted by syke
Pffft... even the studenst got that right, maybe if L4 had an education......

Im not a student.....

GuanYin · 03-12-2003 5:11pm

Originally posted by L4
The person who told me was 'slow on the uptake' thank you very much.

So you couldn't even read it yourself.. man, no wonder you're bitter!

Thanx 4 The Fish · 03-12-2003 5:19pm

Originally posted by embee
Rigourous qualifying conditions? You have to be unemployed to get the Dole.
So what, in your eyes people should be REALLY REALLY unemployed?

I think that people should be Really Really unemployed to get the dole, I kno wf a few people who are on the dole and working a pub job at full time hours and even though I know that they have been reported nothing has been doen about it. Perhaps more inspectors could be hired, or get the current ones to do their jobs.

ai ing · 03-12-2003 5:24pm

Hmmmm
Budget '03??

wee bit off topic i think

embee · 03-12-2003 5:28pm

It is indeed BUDGET 04

But alas, hes too much of a fool to notice what year it is..

Its not his fault though.... He never went to college!!!

woosaysdan · 03-12-2003 5:40pm

with the ban on fags in public places he should of put a tax on the patches!!! cos a lot of people are goin to give them up in the new year. as for the .25c increase imo its not enough

woosaysdan · 03-12-2003 5:43pm

FAO: All Students......

Have a shower, get a job....
And welcome to the real world.

FAO: L4

you are a MUPPET!!!

Clinical Waste · 03-12-2003 5:49pm

Increase in employee tax credit to €1,040 per annum

What was it this year? Anyone know.

D!ve^Bomb! · 03-12-2003 5:52pm

personnaly L4, i dont think u have a clue about wot u are sayin,, i reckon u have a serious chip on ur shoulder towards students and people who are ''well off'',,

i think u are just jealous cos u didn't go to college, have no achievments, are stuck in a ****ty job goin no where and u are just lookin for people to blame cos u fukd up your own life,,

as far as the budget goes,, i cant believe that the minimum wage wasn't increased.. its ****in disgracefull!!

Dustaz · 03-12-2003 6:04pm

Originally posted by L4
Look, honestly.. I'm not a troll, actually it's called a WUM this side of the Atlantic.
.

No its not. YOU call it a WUM. The rest of us call it a troll.

Sangre · 03-12-2003 6:35pm

Originally posted by newband
,, i cant believe that the minimum wage wasn't increased.. its ****in disgracefull!!

No wonder L4 is pissed off, guess its gonna be a lean Christmas at the L4 house, lean, lean, lean.

rymus · 03-12-2003 6:37pm

5 feckin cent on a litre of petrol.. like its not expensive enough already :mad:

That Mc Creevy is some dopey bitch

Mossy Monk · 03-12-2003 6:45pm

TROLL

byte · 03-12-2003 10:18pm

Originally posted by rymus
5 feckin cent on a litre of petrol.. like its not expensive enough already :mad:

That Mc Creevy is some dopey bitch

Yeah couldnt agree more! McCreevy probably doesn't have to pay for fuel from own pocket :mad:

aodh_rua · 03-12-2003 11:03pm

L4 - I've been reading some of your posts on this thread and elsewhere and frankly they seem to fit into a certain mindset. Now being a trinners grad - I've been taught not to be closed minded - and so I was hoping you could answer the following so that I don't start to generalise...

1. Do you now or have you ever owned a white van? [are you in fact an example of 'white van man']

2. Do you feel that Sky News and the Sun offer a rigorous and considered view on world affairs?

3. Do you feel that Richard Littlejohn (of the above) is a wise man who should be listened to more?

4. Have your opinions ever been proved wrong (perhaps by practical experience of actual farmers\non-stereotypical students), and did you accept the alternative viewpoint?

Thanks for putting my mind to rest.

Peace · 03-12-2003 11:16pm

TROLL to the max.

Capt'n Midnight · 04-12-2003 1:13am

Originally posted by L4
Look, honestly.. I'm not a troll, actually it's called a WUM this side of the Atlantic.

WUM ?

Victor · 04-12-2003 1:45pm

Originally posted by newband
as far as the budget goes,, i cant believe that the minimum wage wasn't increased.. its ****in disgracefull!!

The minimum wage isn't part of the budget. And it is being increased to €7.00 (some exceptions) on 1st February.

LoneGunM@n · 04-12-2003 2:14pm

L4 ... you seem to contradict yourself an awful lot ...

Firstly

Originally posted by L4
Don't mind the rise in prices of Ciggerettes, it's this shower that should be targeted

& then

Originally posted by L4
F**kin 25% increase on ciggerettes. Bastards

Any ways :rolleyes:

Clinical Waste> the employee PAYE Tax Credit for 2003 is €800.00, so for 2004 all employees are getting a raise in Tax Credit of €240.00 .... wup di do basil :rolleyes:

The most worrying thing for me about this budget is the closing of the loop hole for VAT on sites ... AFAIK, the builders used to transfer the site to the eventual purchaser without VAT, so that the VAT would only be charged on the construction cost of the house ... but Charlie [to be known hereafter as the Horsie Crowd Loving Fcuk Head

] has closed the loophole, so we'll all have to pay even more money for houses :mad: :mad:

Plus, what the fcuk is it with €240.00 increase in Tax Credits ... he might as well give us nothing, because it's fcuking wiped out by inflation!!

& what about the non indexation of the Tax Bands ... pure unadulterated sh!te ... the Irish times is reporting tha 50k more people are going to be pushed into the higher tax band in 2004, due to cost of living rises [in line with inflation] !!
See article here

Victor · 04-12-2003 2:28pm

Originally posted by LoneGunM@n
The most worrying thing for me about this budget is the closing of the loop hole for VAT on sites ... AFAIK, the builders used to transfer the site to the eventual purchaser without VAT, so that the VAT would only be charged on the construction cost of the house ... but Charlie [to be known hereafter as the Horsie Crowd Loving Fcuk Head ] has closed the loophole, so we'll all have to pay even more money for houses :mad:

You still got to pay either VAT or stamp duty, not a whole lot of difference.

The_Goose · 04-12-2003 2:52pm

Why is it no one ever does anything aboot the feckers in gov.!
like how much can be takin, tax hikes,scandels,closing prison while crime increases!!
Where did they get these yobs!

rymus · 04-12-2003 2:56pm

Originally posted by Manticore
Where did they get these yobs!

We voted for them apparently...

LoneGunM@n · 04-12-2003 3:04pm

I know for a fact that I didn't vote for them ... shower of fcukin' wasters :mad:

Originally posted by Victor
You still got to pay either VAT or stamp duty, not a whole lot of difference.

I thought that stamp duty was 4% on land between €31,750.00 & €63,500.00 and 5% on land between €63,500.00 & €76,200.00, with 6% on land above €76,200.00!!

So even if the site cost was >€76,200.00, the saving over VAT is 7.5% which is a fair whack of money!!

corglass · 29-12-2012 2:45am

LoneGunM@n wrote: »

I know for a fact that I didn't vote for them ... shower of fcukin' wasters :mad:

I thought that stamp duty was 4% on land between €31,750.00 & €63,500.00 and 5% on land between €63,500.00 & €76,200.00, with 6% on land above €76,200.00!!

So even if the site cost was >€76,200.00, the saving over VAT is 7.5% which is a fair whack of money!!

Shocking stuff altogether!!!

Right from the bowels of a dead thread rises this zombie

seven_eleven · 29-12-2012 2:47am

hah! I bet they never saw the current economic state coming did they yiz shower of bástards! ? :pac:

dodderangler · 29-12-2012 2:49am

Woah
It's like I travelled back in time to the first page

Budget '03

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