Skangers

bloggs · 09-09-2003 9:20am #1

I was talking the other day to a girl who said she loves skangers (soverign rings, tracksuit, calls people "muppas", shortens name to add an 'o' at the end e.g. Anthony = Anto)

. You know what i mean.

I think she is mad, but they say each to their own.

My question is, are you a skanger, are you proud to dress like the above, do you think your are cool or a hard man/woman?

I think it looks cheap and tacky

This is meant to be light hearted, but if the Mods think this will turn in to a flamefest, then feel free to close.

super_furry · 09-09-2003 9:28am

The thing that always confuses me about scangers is why do they want to be like that? Don’t they know that everyone hates them, thinks that they’re scum and look absolutely ridiculous? I mean do they wake up one morning and think to themselves “I know, I’m going to buy a cheap tracksuit, some sovereign rings, a baseball cap that I’ll wear at a 90 degree angle, and set about making everyone else’s life a living hell. I’ll smash bus windows, I’ll pick fights on strangers (but only if they’re on their own and I’m in a gang) and I’ll hang around off-licences pestering people to buy drink for me.”

I often wonder if scangers actually realise that they are, in fact, scangers. Do they maybe think that they’re just normal people out for a good time? I mean if you ever call them scangers they react with such shock and horror – how could they possibly not know that they are the scum of the earth?

Beruthiel · 09-09-2003 9:54am

I’m going to attempt to move this to After Hours, as it’s not really a personal issue as such

sorry Monty

Dakeyras · 09-09-2003 9:58am

i think in this case you could alter the old adage: "when a wise man realises he is wise he becomes a fool but when a fool realises he is a fool he becomes a fool no longer"
to
"when a scanger realises that he is a scanger he becomes a skanger no longer"

Though it probably all has to do with the environment your brought up in and your relative peer group. if the people you admire or spend most of your time with dress in a certain way etc. it could become your definition of 'cool' or 'hard'. Though by no means everyone is like this there's enough of them to make up most of them you see about. i mean if a scanger went in to BT2 or somewhere got himself kitted out in the latest threads or whatever he'd probably get devoured by his 'butties' on return to scanger-land after they had a good laugh at him for turning into a poof.

loismustdie · 09-09-2003 10:12am

Originally posted by bloggs
This is meant to be light hearted, but if the Mods think this will turn in to a flamefest, then feel free to close.

if i repected your opinion enough it would turn into a flamefest! and the fact that you said that shows that you know yourself that you're out of line. i'm not a "skanger" but i think it's a terrible name to put on someone. i've loads of friends who you would probably call skangers because they call themselves anto maybe or happen to like tracksuits. these people are probably more decent than you are because they wouldn't dream of judging and labelling people like you do. get over your own image and let everone where and do what they like, they're not bothering you so you should get on with your own sad existance/life and leave them alone too. maybe you should try playing snake on your phone when you see someone who you think is a skanger, that way we can all live harmoniously and they won't bother you so much, you can get annoyed with your phone instead because you can't win the game or something

LegacyUser · 09-09-2003 10:27am

Originally posted by loismustdie
i'm not a "skanger" but i think it's a terrible name to put on someone. i've loads of friends who you would probably call skangers because they call themselves anto maybe or happen to like tracksuits. these people are probably more decent than you are because they wouldn't dream of judging and labelling people like you do.

no seriously, anybody who wears white three stripe tracksuits deserves all the abuse they get, there is simply no excuse for it

dudara · 09-09-2003 10:35am

super_furry said it all. Do they ever look at themselves in the mirror and wonder why everybody else dresses differently. When you are in Argos and you see them all at the jewellry counter buying sovereign rings and big hoop earings, you wonder do argos make most of their money from selling them bad jewellry.

MrScruff · 09-09-2003 10:36am

<quote>no seriously, anybody who wears white three stripe tracksuits deserves all the abuse they get, there is simply no excuse for it </quote>

It was a free country the last time I checked or maybe you have recently been apointed Minister for Fashion?

But seriously, does the way a stranger dresses really bother you that much?? chill your boots! variety is the spice of life!

loismustdie · 09-09-2003 10:38am

what about people who chose to wear "not-cool" clothes, it wouldn't b acceptable to slag them off for their appearence so why's it ok to take the piss out of skangers. people say skangers are trouble makers but now it's "normal" people startin on them

LegacyUser · 09-09-2003 10:38am

chill your boots! variety is the spice of life! [/B]

but thats the thing they ALL wear three strip trackies :eek:

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 09-09-2003 10:42am

do you wear any brand names? nike, adidas.. erm.. heh, they're the only two I know

but unless you wear 100% totally original items of clothing, hand crafted for your personal use.. then shut up and stop making a fool of yourself

loismustdie · 09-09-2003 10:43am

Originally posted by dudara
super_furry said it all. Do they ever look at themselves in the mirror and wonder why everybody else dresses differently. When you are in Argos and you see them all at the jewellry counter buying sovereign rings and big hoop earings, you wonder do argos make most of their money from selling them bad jewellry.

for **** sake, they're people - just like them there are ravers, grungers, business people, studious types or whatever. everyone is different. out of all the people in the world they can't all be the same or every single person cannot be different. that's how fashions begin and everyone can be put in a group if you're sad enough to bother stereotypin them

an when you're in argos in future you should try thinkin about what you went in to buy or where you're going next because you should live your own life, i doubt the "skangers" waste their time thinkin about you

super_furry · 09-09-2003 10:46am

what about people who chose to wear "not-cool" clothes, it wouldn't b acceptable to slag them off for their appearence so why's it ok to take the piss out of skangers. people say skangers are trouble makers but now it's "normal" people startin on them

It’s not just a fashion thing – far from it – it’s just that skangers, scumbags, pikeys, whatever you call them are usually identifiable by the clothes and jewellery they wear. But it's their behaviour and not clothes that marks them out as scangers. Not everyone who wears tracksuits or sovereign rings are scangers, but nearly all scangers wear tracksuits or sovereign rings.

As for it being “normal people” who cause problems by starting on skangers. Exactly what planet do you live on? Just picture the scene – a few of ‘da boyz’ are sitting outside the local school, smoking a few joints and drinking their Dutch Gold when all of a sudden the evil, nasty chess club kids come along and start on them! How likely is that scenario? Skangers are so hated because of their anti-social, scumbag tendencies. It’s a generalisation but it’s true that normal people don’t rob cars, skangers do. Nerds don’t mug kids for their phones, skangers do and normal people don’t sit down the back of buses smoking cheap hash and abusing anyone is sight, skangers do.

loismustdie · 09-09-2003 10:47am

Originally posted by bananayoghurt
but thats the thing they ALL wear three strip trackies :eek:

and you ALL moan like sad little bitches, ya see the pattern. and what the hell do you do go around makin a bloody list?

MrScruff · 09-09-2003 10:48am

Hoo Hah, I love the smell of racism in the morning

super_furry · 09-09-2003 10:49am

Racism my arse.

loismustdie · 09-09-2003 10:50am

Originally posted by Mordeth
do you wear any brand names? nike, adidas.. erm.. heh, they're the only two I know

but unless you wear 100% totally original items of clothing, hand crafted for your personal use.. then shut up and stop making a fool of yourself

who ya tellin t shut up? an what ya doin up so early?

ps - reebok and acis or somethin like that

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 09-09-2003 10:52am

erm, the other lad.. i forget his nick

and i woke up this morning at 8am

it was horrible

MrScruff · 09-09-2003 10:57am

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loismustdie · 09-09-2003 10:58am

super_furry - you can't stereotype clothes, every one is different and if you have a problem with an individual for what he does fair enough but don't look at a person and decide that since he wears sovergn rings that he's a scumbag or even if he is see his a person and not a skanger. you can not link this image wit bein a scumbag

not every scumbag is a skanger. the normal people i'm talking causin trouble is all you lot now talkin about people who wear tracksuits wit the stripes an smoke joints an makin them out to be second class people. and in all fairness you haven't even got a definition for a skanger if you're associating them with all the crime. once again i'm goin to point out that although some people who you call skangers may bully people or steal a car, it's unfair to say that they are the only one to do this or that the style of clothes they wear is anything but coincidence in some cases at least

super_furry · 09-09-2003 10:59am

Exactly what race am I judging? The poor oppressed, ancient and venerable tribe of Skaneragua from the Island's of Bleedin-Rapih?

loismustdie · 09-09-2003 11:03am

The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others.
Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

the definition of racism as found on dictionary.com

skangers isn't a race but since you put them into their own group seperate to the rest of us you're responsible for insinuating your own racism against them

MrScruff · 09-09-2003 11:03am

<quote>Exactly what race am I judging? The poor oppressed ancient and venerable tribe of Skaneragua from the Island's of Bleedin-Rapih?</quote>

I can't argue with that!

now if I could just get the right quote tags.....

Good Day

loismustdie · 09-09-2003 11:05am

Originally posted by Mordeth
erm, the other lad.. i forget his nick

and i woke up this morning at 8am it was horrible

scary! ha - we is on da same side in a argument on boards - i am on the same side as a mod - wonders wil never cease!!! well continue arguin, or go back to bed - whichever you prefer and mind my bag with all of your life until sunday!!!

loismustdie · 09-09-2003 11:06am

just click on the quote icon under the message. if you wnt to ommit some of the text just delete it manually.

bloggs · 09-09-2003 11:07am

Originally posted by super_furry
It’s not just a fashion thing – far from it – it’s just that skangers, scumbags, pikeys, whatever you call them are usually identifiable by the clothes and jewellery they wear. But it's their behaviour and not clothes that marks them out scangers by their behaviour. Not everyone who wears tracksuits or sovereign rings are scangers, but nearly all scangers wear tracksuits or sovereign rings.

As for it being “normal people” who cause problems by starting on skangers. Exactly what planet do you live on? Just picture the scene – a few of ‘da boyz’ are sitting outside the local school, smoking a few joints and drinking their Dutch Gold when all of a sudden the evil, nasty chess club kids come along and start on them! How likely is that scenario? Skangers are so hated because of their anti-social, scumbag tendencies. It’s a generalisation but it’s true that normal people don’t rob cars, skangers do. Nerds don’t mug kids for their phones, skangers do and normal people don’t sit down the back of buses smoking cheap hash and abusing anyone is sight, skangers do.

Exactly!!

When was the last time you saw a bunch of guys in suits hanging around outside an off-licence? Waiting for their 'moth'

Which is more scary? Four guys in tracksuits and sovereigns sitting at the back of the bus, or four guys in suits at the same place?

Im not saying all people who wear tracksuits are scangers, im just saying that most scumbags dress, look and talk like scangers. So why people would want to look or act like a scumbag is beyond me.

I remember listening to the radio one night and there was a guy on saying that i has never had a job, they guy used to go to interviews dressed like a scanger, and i couldn't understand why he didn't get a job!!!

padraigmyers · 09-09-2003 11:09am

Originally posted by MrScruff
So you judge what a person is like by their immediate appearance and it's NOT racism.

Racisim isn't judging people by their outward appearance, it judging people by their
race. RACEisim.

I reckon this discussion has got a bit side-tracked, shurly the problem isn't the
tracksuits, its the behaviour. Its when 10 of them pick on some defencles guy on his
way home from the pub and put him in A&E. Thats why they are hated.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 09-09-2003 11:10am

Im not saying all people who wear tracksuits are scangers, im just saying that most scumbags dress, look and talk like scangers. So why people would want to look or act like a scumbag is beyond me.

if I put on my trenchcoat and go outside today, will you avoid me cos of the kids who did the columbine shootings?

Havelock · 09-09-2003 11:11am

Loismustdie: You make some good points you have to keep in mind, that not everyone who wears tracksuits, hooped ear-rings and calls everyone "-o" doesn't cause trouble. Its the group that dress that way that mark everyone who dresses and talks the same. You friends may only dress that way, but it attracts the stigma of what other people do.

I'm from a s**thole area in Dublin and it is full of "skangers". I don't really fit in there, I just didn't like drinking cider in fields (before they became yet more housing estates), smoking, having a shaved head or bullting people for the way they dress. So I got picked on beaten up in school. Now years later, some have grown out of it, others haven't.

As for your friend Bloggs, its not that strange. I am hoplessly attracted to gothic girls and intelliectual ones. To each there own.

super_furry · 09-09-2003 11:11am

There's a big difference between racism and discrimination - after all I'm from the same race as these skangers and for the most part the same social class. I freely admit that I actively discriminate against skangers - I discriminate against all scumbags.

bloggs · 09-09-2003 11:12am

Originally posted by loismustdie
super_furry - you can't stereotype clothes, every one is different and if you have a problem with an individual for what he does fair enough but don't look at a person and decide that since he wears sovergn rings that he's a scumbag or even if he is see his a person and not a skanger. you can not link this image wit bein a scumbag

So you can put your hand on your heart, and honestly say that you have never, ever made the slightest pre-judgement of any individual by just looking at them? It's human nature to pre-judge people, it's not always a bad thing it's just in our nature. I don't mean in regard to this topic or race or anything it's something people do.

Raz · 09-09-2003 11:12am

Originally posted by super_furry
But it's their behaviour and not clothes that marks them out scangers

That's more the point than the tracksuit thing. If a skanger (I like spelling it with a 'k' alright!

) were to put on a suit they'd still be identifiable as a skanger by the way they interact with the people around them.
It's the "I've the right and you can't do anything about it" attitude that does it.
Picture this,
Myself, my girlfriend and a work mate were walking down the boardwalk about 2 months ago. Yer local 'skangers' are there (about 6 of 'em) havin a few cans of dutchie.
Work mate gets a bit ahead as we work our way around the group. As my girlfriend passes the last of the group he puts out his hand to put it on her head. Seeing this I said to him, "watch it" and continue walkin (but with my eyes still on him).
This guy now wanted to start a fight. I could see it in the way his posture and movement changed and from the way he looked at me. At least one of the friends noticed this. (I wasn't particularly worried, I'm a capable martial artist and they'd all been drinking) Work mate turned around to see where we were and when they realised we were a group the fight went out of them.
At my girlfriends urging (which wasn't really needed) we went on our way.

It's that attitude that pisses me off. He thought he could just feel my girlfriends hair because he wante to. It's a complete lack of regarde for the people around them and I reckon it's on of the reasons they end up in so many fights.

And it's discrimination, not racism.
Racism is a form of discrimination.
Just to point that out.

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 09-09-2003 11:13am

there's not really. racism is just a word for a larger scale form of discrimination

super_furry · 09-09-2003 11:15am

if I put on my trenchcoat and go outside today, will you avoid me cos of the kids who did the columbine shootings?

No because I have never endured a bad experience or hostility from anyone wearing a trenchcoat. Even if it were to me happen to me once or twice, I still wouldn't. However, I have had countless hostile encounters from people wearing skanger clothes. From the harmless "get a haircut ye bleedin' hippy" to assualt.

loismustdie · 09-09-2003 11:15am

the greater scale of life, i'm only puttin this in because you keep referring to skangers in gangs etc - the pawns in the life of crime are these skangers, and who's at the top business men!!! the greatest frauds and contoversies in the country are made by business men. these skangers have nothing to hide and so they wear the clothes they like. if you're scared of them go get yourself kevin costner to mind you when you're walkin around at night, and if you keep to yourself you'll be just fine hunny. an don't make yourself out to be so innocent, you abviously spend a lot of time studying these people

Sir Digby Chicken Caesar · 09-09-2003 11:18am

anyone else find it strange that a lot of the boards community have been arguing with the 'racists' over at stormfront for their portrayal (how do you spell that damned word) or black people as criminals, intellectually inferior.. etc etc, and then they hop over here to after hours to bitch about the skangers and scumbags..

Yavvy · 09-09-2003 11:21am

I live in tallaght, But I dont have a pair of nikes, I dont have a white track suit and I dont even own a baseball cap. these are all nice items of clothing (expencive ones too) but the evil skangers of Tallaght and other areas have ruined the rep of perfectly good clothing. I think this style of dressing your self is crazy..who in gods name tries to look fancy in a track suit ? who in this world thinks a stripy jumper, gold chain, track suit bottoms and glow in the dark nikes is cool ??

Ill tell you who...skangers.

I try to avoide these stupidly dressed people as often as possible.
not cause of they way they dress ( but I think that part of it) but because of the common mentality they seem to have.
But I do have to go up to the square some times and everytime I am shocked and appulaed by "These people"

last weekend I saw a girl wearing stilletos, white track suit bottoms and a pink top ( that barly covered her tits) a black push up bra, and a yellow track suit top. She also had earings that could only have been the metal rims from a mountain bike and more makeup than I thought was possible. And guess what ...she was pushing a pram and obviously she had a "jonny blue" hanging outta her mouth.

These people are not oppressed. They are just crazy !

however, I often see in town the "blackrock chick" who wares shinny nike runners, baggy track bottoms and a rugbey top. This shouldnt be acceptable clothing either yet some how it is. Somehow I find this style of dressing absoutly fine. and some of them even ware caps and big earings...so whats the differance ???

padraigmyers · 09-09-2003 11:24am

Originally posted by Mordeth
there's not really. racism is just a word for a larger scale form of discrimination

Actually thats completly wrong, racism is a subset of discrimination, not the other
way round. Racisim is discrimination on the basis of race.

People hate skangers because they are 90% of the reason that the streets of our city
are not safe to walk on on your own at night.

If I see two guys wearing tracksuits, sorverigns, and baseball caps coming towards
me at 2 in the morning on some street, yeah I'm gonna wath myself more than if
it was two guys in suits. I call that being a bit street-wise, and don't tell me that you
wouldn't feel the same. Chances are that if your going to get hassle its going to be
from someone looking like a skanger.

Raz · 09-09-2003 11:27am

Originally posted by Alany
...so whats the differance ???

It's the persons attitude IMO. Plus the accent (sp?) might have something to do with it.

bloggs · 09-09-2003 11:28am

I think some people want to replace every word in the English dictionary with 'racist' as it covers everything from Cork people to scangers, to clampers, to people who use mobiles to (put in something you don't like here).

Example: I heard a converstion between two people (from Dublin and Cork) and the Dublin guy claimed the Cork people were 'Racist' toward Dublin people. I never near that people from Dublin/Cork were a different race form the rest of us (no matter what people say)

Anyway back on target.

Do people who look like scangers know they do? If so, wouldn't it be a good idea to not dress like one so people won't look at you with disgust or fear? I knwo you will say people shouldn't look at scangers with disgust or fear, but it's not our fault if the majority of scumbags are skangers.

super_furry · 09-09-2003 11:28am

however, I often see in town the "blackrock chick" who wares shinny nike runners, baggy track bottoms and a rugbey top. This shouldnt be acceptable clothing either yet some how it is.

It's pretty awful alright, but the thing is those kind of people don't usually go around with the goal making other people's life a misery. They don't hang around slagging and starting fights on people who wear different clothes to them.

I'm from Tallaght myself (lived in Jobstown til I was 13, then moved to Belgard) and unfortunately I have to deal with scangers in one form or another nearly everyday. Like I said earlier, it's usually just insults as they look for a fight from anyone who looks slightly different to them.

loismustdie · 09-09-2003 11:29am

i definitely agree that there are a lot of people fittin the skanger description causing trouble out there. but this is no justification for this thread. what i'm sayin is evn though you can argue that skangers are skangers, you shouldn't be starting up threads about them and expect to come off looking good yourself. and even though it's wrong i have judged people prematurely as it's part of human behaviour but more often than not i was wrong and i aspire not to judge people. nobodies perfect, but if we can all realsie this it's making a good start and there's no reason to discriminate against any group of people. any discrepencies should be dealt with individuals. this isn't racism at all but the point i was making was that the thread starter was making it a racial issue himself because he was making skangers out to be a different race. it is an unfair discrimination, that can be compared to the discrimination against travellers. i can see your point but what i'm saying is that you should mind your own business and not be wastin your time talking about them. if 1 "skanger" does something against you that is between you and him and you can't stereotype. if you saw a different group of black people fighting every nigh it would still not be justified to put up a thread about black people, ya dig me:?

xx · 09-09-2003 11:29am

Originally posted by loismustdie
i've loads of friends who you would probably call skangers because they call themselves anto maybe or happen to like tracksuits. these people are probably more decent than you are because they wouldn't dream of judging and labelling people like you do.

Thats right, and this is why most of them refer to other people as 'Muppas', 'quayors' and my fave, 'bleedin' faggets'.
To paraphrase a line out of Full Metal Jacket - "All fcuking Skangers must fcuking die"!!!!!
How do you like THEM apples?

Raz · 09-09-2003 11:34am

Originally posted by bloggs
Do people who look like scangers know they do? If so, wouldn't it be a good idea to not dress like one so people won't look at you with disgust or fear?

Those questions can really only be answered by the labeled skanger.
IMO the "skanger" doesn't look like a skanger to him/herself. They look like a person. They follow a fashion that's common to their friends but they do it slightly differently. To us "normal" people they all look the same. To them selves they look different.

As a counter point, do all these so-called skangers think all us so-called normal people look the same?

Shilo · 09-09-2003 11:35am

Originally posted by Alany

however, I often see in town the "blackrock chick" who wares shinny nike runners, baggy track bottoms and a rugbey top. This shouldnt be acceptable clothing either yet some how it is. Somehow I find this style of dressing absoutly fine. and some of them even ware caps and big earings...so whats the differance ???

Quite often, although not always, these clothes are actually a sign of some kind of sporting activity - if you're a girl going to school in Blackrock, normally hockey. And in any case, most of these girls are so busy giggling amongst themselves or texting one another on their cell phones that they're unlikely to be a problem to anyone, unless you're trying to actually walk around them or need them to move!

P.S. LoisMustDie: Aspiring not to judge people may be all fine and dandy in a happy smiley PC world but in reality, it's a remnant of a more primal preservation instinct - no one likes getting beaten up now, do they? :rolleyes:

super_furry · 09-09-2003 11:41am

and even though it's wrong i have judged people prematurely as it's part of human behaviour but more often than not i was wrong and i aspire not to judge people.

Well I'm afraid I don't. I judge people on my experiences with them, and nearly every single experience I’ve had with a scanger has been a negative one. Until I’m offered evidence to the contrary, I will carry on considering them as pure scum.

loismustdie · 09-09-2003 11:42am

why do you think you have the right to criticise them? you're the one's making a big deal of it and you're trying to make yourselves out to be decent people. read the posts again an you'll see tat you're only stuck up snobs and you haven't even go a reason to feel so superior becasue yu obviously have no lives and are horrible people talkin bout everyone else who doesn't fit yor description of the right kind of person.

90% of street crimes blah - what were the questions in the srvey to find this out - in the case of an argument would you a) call the oposition a muppah, b)run home cryin, c) give the person your lolly pop or d)invite them to the pictures? - sorry but this argument is frying my head. can you lot not see that even though you might be right you are the ones with the problem now because you are the ones being horrible. no skanger has done anything to have this thread started and it's all a big stereotype where you are discriminating against them

it's not a race issue, the thread starter is makin it a racial issue himself by stereotyping

padraigmyers · 09-09-2003 11:45am

Originally posted by loismustdie
if you saw a different group of black people fighting every nigh it would still not be justified to put up a thread about black people, ya dig me:?

Black people are black and no matter what they do they will still be black, this is why
racisim is generally accepeted as being wrong.
Skangers dress and act like they do out of choice, its a life-style choice, and I have
no problem in discriminating against the scumbags.

loismustdie · 09-09-2003 11:46am

Originally posted by super_furry
Well I'm afraid I don't. I judge people on my experiences with them, and nearly every single experience I’ve had with a scanger has been a negative one. Until I’m offered evidence to the contrary, I will carry on considering them as pure scum.

NEARLY every on?
how many skangers have you met?

i had the most possible repect for you and your opinions even though i disagreed them them until this post, now i wouldn't piss on you if you wer on fire

offered evidence to the conrary - you are full of ****

you're judging a lot of people on a few experiences with a few people who wear the same type clothes and talk the same maybe as a lot of people around the place so you're going to take it out on them all

super_furry · 09-09-2003 11:48am

can you lot not see that even though you might be right you are the ones with the problem now because you are the ones being horrible.

Well let's declare tomorrow the official "Be nice to scangers day!" We'll give them presents of Dutch Gold and 'a 10 spot', we won't fight back when they try to beat us up for looking different to them, we'll help them steal younger kids' mobile phones, we'll help them come up with witty and insightful insults for them to use on random strangers while they're sitting down the back of the bus and we'll all sit in a big field listening to Scooter albums on a robbed stereo. Bleeeeedin' raaaaapih!

Absolam · 09-09-2003 11:49am

I think the real issue is that the majority of so called 'skangers' discriminate strongly against anyone outside their own limited peer group. These are mostly people with limited social skills, education, and prospects, and they find anyone different threatening. So they react in the only way they know how; they assert their superiority as they've learnt to - violently. Unfortunately, to change that you must change the society that permits it's children to grow up in these environments; otherwise the problem just continues to grow. I propose an 'adopt a slanger' program, where disenfranchised youths are brought to live in nice homes in Blackrock and suchlike..where they can experience the warmth and broad horizons of living in our modern class free society, and see for themselves how much better their lives can be. Who's with me? C'mon guys, do it for society! Do it for the skangers!

Skangers

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