Live premiership soccer 3pm Sat on Irish terrestrial

Andy Mc

See the link from 2003/2004 season

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,981455,00.html


The important package in here that can be bid for is

IRISH LIVE PACKAGE

How many matches? One game every Saturday.
When will they be shown? 3pm Saturday, in the Republic of Ireland only.
Who can bid? Irish pay-TV broadcasters, Irish free-to-air broadcasters.


Surely either RTE or TV 3 will grab this package with both hands.
It will be great to have premiership soccer live again on Saturday afternoon like the old days.

Andy Mc

Hyzepher

I assume this is a new package available. I hope its not an old package that wasn't taken up by RTE/TV3 due to the cost.

Hyzepher

Andy Mc

As a result of interference from the EU in Brussels you are no longer able to see TV rights for football on an exclusive basis, the Champions league is the precedent, that is why there are so many varied packages now on offer. Sky's current exclusive agreement which expires next season prohibited live premiership soccer being shown on RTE/TV 3.


Andy Mc

Hyzepher

That has to be the best news I've heard in a while

Hyzepher

irishgeo

Could SKy not bid for this and then use the Conditional Access Software to Setup SKy Sports 1 Irish to show that game on a saturday.

RTe could bid for this but where is the Highlights package for us irish viewers.

channelsurfer

its very good news on the face of it but dont forget it will go to the highest bidder either terresteral or satelitte. with all skys money they will be sure to bid high enough and give an irish opt out with irish ads. cant see rte tv3 matching it ala irish home games. maybe they will do. the only reason it was not on rte the last 10 years is that sky have consitently added a little add on to their uk contract " uk and republic of ireland rights" so thus blocking rte from showing live matches no matter how much rte bid/ llets hope for the best.:p

KdjaCL

hmm i read this this morning.

The League says the new deals will see more televised matches on Saturdays, fewer on other days of the week, yet will continue to protect the Saturday 3-5pm slot from live transmission.

Read the full list of stuff here

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/eng_prem/3005296.stm


live footie at 3pm on saturdays wont happen methinks.

kdjac

channelsurfer

tthats only in the uk in the actual tender document issued by the premierleague it invites applictions for 3pm live matches in the republic of ireland only thus not allowing it be showed in the uk. so its allright then hope this clears it up for you.

Mossy Monk

doesn't that 3pm thing only apply to the UK. something about live Saturday games not on tv to maximise attendance figures. showing them live in this country wouldn't affect that

Aquos76

I may be wrong but this deal, if it is signed will not take effect until the 2004/2005 season as Sky still have one year left on their current contract.

strettie1

Also remember the 3.00pm on a saturday will be the fifth choice match of the weekend as the UK rights are scheduled as follows :

Gold package 4.00 Sundays 38 matches firstchoice of weekend fixtures

Silver package 8.00pm Monday or Tuesday night 38 matches second choice

Bronze package 12.00 / 5.00pm Saturday 62 matches 3rd and 4th choice

carrolls

Watch BSkyB shares drop over the next few months.
Will people be inclined to pay £8 per match to Sky, when they will be getting live matches at Saturday lunchtime and teatime on BBC/ITV, and at 3:00 in Ireland on RTE?
Premiership football is Sky's core revenue generator and it is a serious problem
for them if that is jepordised .
I think people will be happy with their lot and not use Sky when this happens.

DMC

Na, by the sounds of it, in the Guardian today, they feel that Sky will have to cover themselves and go for all 3 Live packages.

http://media.guardian.co.uk/broadcast/story/0,7493,982293,00.html

Also, it is entirely possible, that Sky Sports will have an Irish opt-out to show that one match on Saturday afternoon for Irish viewers.

carrolls

If we see Sky setting up an Irish Sky Sports channel in the next year, this will confirm Sky's Irish opt-out.
I don't see many Irish people paying money to see a Premiership match at 3:00 on a saturday.

Hyzepher

The Saturday time slot may be billed as 'Bronze' but when the CL comes around a lot of the teams involved will play on Saturday as Sunday & Monday will clash with their preparations for the Tues/Wed match.

I think the Saturday matches will have some cracking games.

Hyzepher

irishgeo

As expected Sky have bid for all three higlights packages.Apparently Europe is not to happy about it

Quoted from Digital Spy:

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Sky "may face legal challenge" to football bid
09:45 BST, Tuesday 15th July 2003 -- by Neil Wilkes
The Premier League could become the subject of an investigation by the European Commission if it accepts a £1billion bid from Sky for the rights to live football games.

According to The Independent today, Sky has made the £1 billion offer to the League on condition that it is awarded all three possible live rights packages. If it isn't awarded one of them, it will withdraw its offer and pay less for theose packages it does manage to secure.

It was the Commission who pressured the League into splitting its rights down into many smaller packages after Sky was easily successful in its bid for the single live rights package last time around. If true, an acceptance of this latest offer would mean the Commission would have been unsuccessful in its aims, and a full investigation could follow.

Sky's current three-year deal with the League is worth £1.1 billion for 66 games a year. The new contract, beginning in the 2004-05 season, will offer 138 live matches per season.

Imposter

If RTE or TV3 were to get the rights would the match not be available in the UK for those with a FTA box?
Surely it would be just like it is with the Dutch and Nowegians showing the live premiership games on saturdays!

Or am I missing something?

ShaneOC

Originally posted by Imposter
If RTE or TV3 were to get the rights would the match not be available in the UK for those with a FTA box?
Surely it would be just like it is with the Dutch and Nowegians showing the live premiership games on saturdays!

Or am I missing something?

Definately missing something

RTÉ and TV3 are not available on FTA boxes. They are only available to Irish subscribers of the Family Pack (or higher).

timpat

IF RTE and TV3 end up showing Premiership games lives we can expect surge in demand for Irish sub cards across the water!

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by timpat
IF RTE and TV3 end up showing Premiership games lives we can expect surge in demand for Irish sub cards across the water!

i would expect a few of my friends to ask me about getting a subscription for them. if Sky got all 3 packages, would that affect the chance of an Irish broadcaster getting games on 3pm Saturday

has any Irish broadcasters put in a bid. it is my understanding that they have to be in by now

Lennoxschips

Hopefully it's TV3 who do the bidding. I'd prefer if RTE didn't waste Irish license money showing English football. Don't get me wrong, I'd watch it myself too, but I don't think RTE should be investing money in things like that.

irishgeo

Why the hell not? I would much rather English Footie on TV than some crap from the states.

TV3 coverage of any football game is woefull at the best of times.

Eammon and co providing Keane comments every week no matter who is playing.

Will this splity highlights package mean sky could have Liverpool Arsenal and the other big team on every week on sunday etc and RTE would have to get the leftovers.

Lennoxschips

RTE should be investing their public money in home grown programmes and domestic sports. (gaa, rugby, league of ireland) In fact, when RTE owned the full rights to FAI internationals, League of Ireland football rights were included. But RTE never bothered to show it.

Showing Rangers-Celtic, English football, American soaps etc etc shouldn't be the main goal of a public broadcaster.

Wiggy

Originally posted by Imposter
Surely it would be just like it is with the Dutch and Nowegians showing the live premiership games on saturdays!

Or am I missing something?

Are those Dutch and Norwegian channels available on Astra?

Third_Echelon

RTE should be investing their public money in home grown programmes and domestic sports. (gaa, rugby, league of ireland) In fact, when RTE owned the full rights to FAI internationals, League of Ireland football rights were included. But RTE never bothered to show it.

Showing Rangers-Celtic, English football, American soaps etc etc shouldn't be the main goal of a public broadcaster

it has to be said that irish programmes are getting better in quality.... but you have to admit that most of the irish stuff is complete and utter muck...... they are always cheap copies english and american programs anyway..... fair city is a perfect example.... what an awful waste of license payers money that is...... that camera cafe rubbish as well.... what are these people thinking when they are making these shows...

the state broadcaster should be putting money into programmes that people will actually watch, such as a live premier league game on a saturday....

imagine the audience that would draw compared to a crappy league of ireland game!!!!!

celticfc

Originally posted by Lennoxschips
fact, when RTE owned the full rights to FAI internationals, League of Ireland football rights were included. But RTE never bothered to show it.

That was absolutely idiotic, If they were to show a live Eircom league match on a friday they would certainly get more ratings than whatever they might have on N2.
I'd certainly watch it.

Originally posted by Lennoxschips
Showing Rangers-Celtic, English football, American soaps etc etc shouldn't be the main goal of a public broadcaster.

I think its great that they show SPL games live now & I'd love them to show live prem games aswell. (Lets face it its theese shows which get them they're ratings)

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by celticfc
(Lets face it its theese shows which get them they're ratings)

indeed. more ratings = better revenue which will give them more cash for home grown stuff

the Champions League in September will do RTÉ a world of good too

rcunning03

indeed. more ratings = better revenue which will give them more cash for home grown stuff

yes they could invest the extra revenue in home grown products or they could buy some program we can all see (about %80 of the population anyway) on british tv and continue to fly business class

which is more likely ?

irishgeo

I wonder will RTE bother with the UEFA cup now they have CL coverage. Hate to see C5 get it. I am only wondering as the pool are in it.

Mr.M

Originally posted by Wiggy
Are those Dutch and Norwegian channels available on Astra?

C+ Holland is on 19e and C+ Nordic is on 1w

byte

Originally posted by Mr.M
C+ Holland is on 19e and C+ Nordic is on 1w

Is C+ Holland FTA?

Mossy Monk

isn't it only the French Canal+ that decrypts every now and again

Lennoxschips

Canal Plus Holland is a subscription service like Sky. Like Sky, they also carry the national terrestrial channels. The terrestrials are available on an FTV scheme, which costs 15 euros per year. One of these terrestrial channels, RTL5, carried the Sunday and mid-week Sky matches last year, but I'm not sure what the situation is for the up and coming season.

I've never watched them on satellite, because I get these terrestrial channels for free on Dutch cable anyway, but I know some Dutch people in Spain who use their Dutch FTV cards to watch Dutch telly. Then there's the Brits down there all watching Sky as well. Spanish televsion must be really bad.

Mossy Monk

attrocious would be a good word. the weather is good down there anyway so there is no need to be inside

Mr.M

Originally posted by byte
Is C+ Holland FTA?

the channel that shows the football(c+ blauw) is encrypted in irdeto1 and seca2

DonJammer

RTE don't care about home products, not only did they shun the Eircom League when they had it but they're even refusing to broadcast Bohemians V Rosenborg in the champions league, an absolutley huge match, and I'd much rather watch that than Celtics six goal 'thrillers' against Hibs that they had on. For christs sake, Sky Sports News have given about 1,000 times more coverage to the Irish league then our very own RTE this year.

Sure, pre Jack Charlton, they wouldn't even show too many Irish international matches, I don't see any reason why they'll stop now.

carryo

Does this mean that we can look forward to 3pm kick-offs again at Old Traford? Practically every Saturday home-game was a 12:15 kick-off. I'm so fed-up with getting up so early on Saturday's and I'm sure I'm not the only one!

DMC

Um, thats because TV3 have the rights to show live games of the eircom League. Hence Eircom League Weekly every Monday night. This is a remnant of the hotly contested Sky/TV3 deal.

RTÉ will show the semi finals and final of the FAI Cup. If you have a problem with the coverage, complain to the rights holders.

Genghis

DMC, while TV3 have rights to the eircom league, neither RTE nor TV3 have attempted to buy the rights to the CL qualifier on Wednesday - Bohemians Vs Rosenburg. Our best hope of seeing this live is if Eurosport take it (ironically, the match is being produced for TV - so that the Norwegians get to see it at home).

DMC

I can just imagine a meeting between the RTÉ and TV3 about this one... "I thought you were showing it" "No, you have the rights to that, I thought you were showing it!"

Yes, the two stations are equally to blame, both are as retarded as the other with this in mind.

Andy Mc

The bids for the Premiership soccer contract at 3pm on Sat on Irish TV for the 2004/5 season onwards are in but does anyone know or care to speculate who has bid for the lucrative contract. I don't think it would be too expensive beacause you are basically talking about the 5th choice game and the audience is obviously only the Rep Ireland.

Andy Mc

Mossy Monk

Originally posted by Andy Mc
The bids for the Premiership soccer contract at 3pm on Sat on Irish TV for the 2004/5 season onwards are in

so does that mean at least 1 bid has been put in. i wouldn't care who got it as long as it isn't on PPV

zepp

perphaps satanta have, they have pay per view Gaelic champsionship coverage in england 9 euro for last sundays matchs and also do celtic matchs.there probably registered as an irish company

Mossy Monk

it is possible seeing as they are based in Dublin. that wouldn't make a difference though. all that matters is that the games would be shown in the ROI only