Getting some opflash games going online

ssh

Me: 512 kbps adsl at home.
1 mbit into an office in which I do some sysadmining... it's got a dell poweredge running debian sitting there doing very little in the evenings. Getting an opflash server running would be relatively trivial.

you: have opflash and resistance, and would be interested in playing some opflash once a week or so, purely on a fun rather than competitve basis.

Someone out there must be interested?

The_Bullman

I know I am

tell me more

have you got any good missions?

ssh

I have all the good missions :-)

Generally, I'm into co-op, though if the numbers were right, team deathmatch could also be good.

The best co-op missions I've played have all come from [Kyllikki]Blake. You'll find a link to his site in the links thread in this forum. Other missions of note include 1979 (afghani rebels vs. soviets) and all of the co-op missions included with the BAS delta/rangers pack.

The real problem is making sure everyone has the right addons. If you look in the thread entitled "Anyone play opflash..." I attatched a file which includes a complete list of my addons folder.

po0k

I'd be on for this, definitely
Should have netsource 512/128 in a few weeks.
Just choosing a router atm.

rob1891

I'm getting 512K from IBB tomorrow and would love reinstall ofp and check out the multiplayer, co-op sounds good too.

rob

ssh

Great... glad to see some interest.

Does anyone know what kind of upstream/downstream bandwidth you need for every connected player in opflash? The line is a 1024/256 one, which probably isn't ideal for more than 7 or 8 people.

Syxpak, I'd recommend an SMC 7401BRA... only 1 ethernet + 1 usb port, but it's the most reliable "cheapy" adsl router I've encountered.

po0k

I'm looking more at the Solwise SAR 712PW, the Draytek Vigor 2600We or Linksys 650H (I think)

ssh

Evidently, this is piss of your sysadmin week. I've got a bunch of stuff to do in the office today... which will give me a good chance to get the opflash server up and running.

I'll post the server details up here and punch an appopropriate hole in the firewall later, if I get it working.

ssh

Right, It's running, and reasonably smoothly too. My ping is in and about 100, though I have to go over a wireless link to get to get to my adsl router.

It certainly didn't feel any less smooth than playing on a lan, though I suppose the test is to see how well it handles itself when there are 20 AI shooting at you.

If anyone wants a brief game over the next little while, post a message here.

po0k

I'm sitting at my machine atm.
512/128 Netsource.

I haven't yet tried to connect to a server, can't get ASE to download using the installer.

Could somone please copy the install pack from their temp directory (I assume that's how it does it) or zip the install folder and host it/ email /dcc it to me?

ssh

FWIW, http://www.cs.tcd.ie/~higels/eye.zip

Though I think tracking down your networking problem properly might be a worthwhile endevour... do you want to send me a traceroute from your desktop to the eye update server? I can compare it with mine, which I know is working.

The opflash server seems stable enough now. If you connect to office.newisland.ie on the usual port, you should see it. There's only about 6 maps on rotation at the moment. I haven't tried using any missions that require addons.

rob1891

had a go of it just now, co-op on my own! First thing I noticed was the patch level, it's at version 1.85, latest is 1.91 with 1.92 in the pipeline.

Next bit, which I really love, is that my traffic is routed through new york, traceroute below if you don't want to believe me!! I'm on IrishBroadband and they musn't be linked in to eircom, what fun! Ping is around 160 mark, kind of playable, I notice soldiers jumping forwards or backwards every now and then.

So I guess I will have to ask IBB to get connected to eircom at a more local level! I still have a problem with all on line games I've tried with IBB (only ofp and bf1942) that is the connection goes dead for 30 seconds every half hour or so (seems once per game), because of this I haven't really been going game crazy. Only happens to me it seems, oh well.

Hopefully a few others will try it out and post up here. Thanks for setting it up,

Rob



C:\>tracert office.newisland.ie

Tracing route to office.newisland.ie [62.77.173.72]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms PHOENIX [192.168.0.1]
2 * * * Request timed out.
3 * * * Request timed out.
4 109 ms 16 ms 16 ms ibis-gw-fe-0-1-3.irishbroadband.ie [195.26.12.61
]
5 172 ms 15 ms 47 ms 208.175.247.81
6 15 ms 16 ms 31 ms ycr2-ge-2-0-0.Dublin.cw.net [208.175.245.69]
7 156 ms 110 ms 31 ms bcr2-so-2-0-0.Thamesside.cw.net [166.63.209.197]

8 109 ms 109 ms 110 ms dcr2-loopback.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.194.100]
9 94 ms 156 ms 109 ms agr4-so-4-0-0.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.207.78]
10 110 ms 94 ms 109 ms acr2-loopback.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.194.62]
11 141 ms 265 ms 156 ms 206.24.193.158
12 109 ms 125 ms 110 ms e2-0.bas1.prp.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.155.98]

13 * * * Request timed out.
14 156 ms 344 ms 172 ms 62-77-173-72.customer.eircom.net [62.77.173.72]


Trace complete.

C:\>

ssh

Hi, glad you tried it out and that it worked (vaguely). The patch version mentioned implies the minimum client patch required to connect, not the actual version of the server. To the very best of my knowledge the server is 1.91.

You routing problems seem to be easily rectifiable by IBB. From me to the first gateway mentioned:

traceroute 195.26.12.61
traceroute to 195.26.12.61 (195.26.12.61), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
1 * * *
2 159.134.155.6 (159.134.155.6) 49.865 ms 52.765 ms 49.767 ms
3 159.134.155.97 (159.134.155.97) 49.867 ms 49.425 ms 51.598 ms
4 159.134.191.98 (159.134.191.98) 67.833 ms 63.231 ms 67.841 ms
5 linx-ge7-0-oscar.lon.router.colt.net (195.66.224.49) 69.812 ms 67.023 ms 67.665 ms
6 217.173.97.106 (217.173.97.106) 84.524 ms 91.386 ms 84.200 ms
7 s1-0-1.xp-interxion.1.0.1.s.uk.colt.net (217.173.96.218) 83.563 ms 82.914 ms 81.911 ms
8 ibis-gw-fe-0-1-3.irishbroadband.ie (195.26.12.61) 145.692 ms 145.949 ms 147.780 ms

Something odd going there. I'd suspect they need to fiddle their routing tables a bit. You IBB people get stupidly low pings anyway. I'm amazed that a round trip through new york is only 180.

EDIT: I hadn't specified the config file properly on the server. Should have some decent maps now.

Carbiens

id love to join but does anyone know how itll run on an isdn line?

havent tried it yet and i wont have my own machine handy for a week

po0k

Should be sound, we'll only have a handful on the server, you won't be swamped

I'll be working alte all week this week, anyone want to organise something for Sunday night week (tonight + 7 days) ?

ssh

That would be perfect, only I'm going to Slovenia for 2 weeks on Saturday. I'll leave the server running anyway.

At the moment, it's running the 6 band of comrades missions and the desert ambush mission, all of which have been fiddled to have squad respawn.

Any further requests?

po0k

Could you post the IP and port(s) again please?

Thx

ssh

certainly sir -

62.77.173.72 - office.newisland.ie

UDP port 2302.

po0k

Seems to be down at the moment

It's a Resistance server isn't it?
Connect port 2302 and query port 2303 ?

I've forwarded 2302 to my IP on the lan, but not 2303.

ssh

I've just connected to it fine... It's up and running. The firewall forwards udp-2302 to the server... that's all and it works without a bother for me.

Unless you have something fruity going on with your router and assuming you have a nice outbound nat which handles both udp + tcp, it shouldn't be a prob.

I'm connected to it now, if you anyone wants a game.

po0k

I'll try pisisng about with it this evening, forward *everything*in that range to my IP, see if I get any hits.

Does 1.75+ still use a query port?

ssh

No idea about query port.

You don't need to do any port forwarding. Anything you are trying will possibly break things. Basically, Opflash works like DNS - a request-reply UDP based protocol. If your general internet web browsing stuff is working (ie you are resolving names correctly), you should have to do anything.

po0k

k, i'll try removing the port forwards.

I'm trying to get details from ASE on teh server, I think it's the way I added them in.
Need to check some stuff.

ssh

Ah, hence you wanted to know about the query port. I'd imagine that is what is wrong. Try connecting from the game itself.

Next time you try it, aim or msn me (IRLSteffen and higels@hotmail.com respectively) and I'll run a tcpdump on the router.

po0k

just tried joining there from withing the game, the server seems to be down.

ssh

There was a powercut and I didn't get a chance to restart the server.

sorry about that.

El Marco

Well I'm getting dsl in a few days so when the server is back up I'll be more than happy to play.

I have all the BAS addons and missions but may I suggest a game for us to organise. It's an addon called MF Capture the Island, I'm not usre if you've heard of it but it's an excellant mod by which you run free and capture towns against an opposing team.

http://mfcti.sourceforge.net/

Great fun with a few people, you can really get some tactics going.

ssh

Yeah? Never heard of it. I'll take a look at it later.

How many people do you need for it to get seriously good?

po0k

I've to totally re-install my machine ( big job, 2x 120gigs, 1x 80gig, lots of files to be transferred about, dual-booting 2k with Debian)
Might be ready by thursday.

might I suggest we just get some vanilla missions going first, simple team deathmatch stuff for the moment until we get organised and setttled?

Also, ssh, if you could give some sort of a guide or link to same as to how to admin a dedicated server it'd be appreciated.

ssh

All in my noggin. I use a server.cfg which I can stick up here. Most of it has been trial and error. I would recommend staying away from the Linux dedicated server, it's a little cruddy in places.

Anyway, I'll hang around the server for some co-op from about 1900ish on Thursday, all free to join, numbers probably limited by bandwidth on server end.

po0k

cool, I'll leave this install live and will try and join in.

if ye leave yourselves idling in #opflash.ie on quakenet (ign.ie.quakenet.org)
we cn coordinate things if shit happpens.