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Getting some opflash games going online

  • 12-06-2003 10:35pm
    #1
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭


    Me: 512 kbps adsl at home.
    1 mbit into an office in which I do some sysadmining... it's got a dell poweredge running debian sitting there doing very little in the evenings. Getting an opflash server running would be relatively trivial.

    you: have opflash and resistance, and would be interested in playing some opflash once a week or so, purely on a fun rather than competitve basis.

    Someone out there must be interested? :)


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  • #2
    The_Bullman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭The_Bullman


    I know I am

    tell me more

    have you got any good missions?


  • #3
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    I have all the good missions :-)

    Generally, I'm into co-op, though if the numbers were right, team deathmatch could also be good.

    The best co-op missions I've played have all come from [Kyllikki]Blake. You'll find a link to his site in the links thread in this forum. Other missions of note include 1979 (afghani rebels vs. soviets) and all of the co-op missions included with the BAS delta/rangers pack.

    The real problem is making sure everyone has the right addons. If you look in the thread entitled "Anyone play opflash..." I attatched a file which includes a complete list of my addons folder.


  • #4
    po0k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    I'd be on for this, definitely
    Should have netsource 512/128 in a few weeks.
    Just choosing a router atm.


  • #5
    rob1891
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭rob1891


    I'm getting 512K from IBB tomorrow :) and would love reinstall ofp and check out the multiplayer, co-op sounds good too.

    rob


  • #6
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    Great... glad to see some interest.

    Does anyone know what kind of upstream/downstream bandwidth you need for every connected player in opflash? The line is a 1024/256 one, which probably isn't ideal for more than 7 or 8 people.

    Syxpak, I'd recommend an SMC 7401BRA... only 1 ethernet + 1 usb port, but it's the most reliable "cheapy" adsl router I've encountered.


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  • #7
    po0k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    I'm looking more at the Solwise SAR 712PW, the Draytek Vigor 2600We or Linksys 650H (I think)


  • #8
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    Evidently, this is piss of your sysadmin week. I've got a bunch of stuff to do in the office today... which will give me a good chance to get the opflash server up and running.

    I'll post the server details up here and punch an appopropriate hole in the firewall later, if I get it working.


  • #9
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    Right, It's running, and reasonably smoothly too. My ping is in and about 100, though I have to go over a wireless link to get to get to my adsl router.

    It certainly didn't feel any less smooth than playing on a lan, though I suppose the test is to see how well it handles itself when there are 20 AI shooting at you.

    If anyone wants a brief game over the next little while, post a message here.


  • #10
    po0k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    I'm sitting at my machine atm.
    512/128 Netsource.

    I haven't yet tried to connect to a server, can't get ASE to download using the installer.

    Could somone please copy the install pack from their temp directory (I assume that's how it does it) or zip the install folder and host it/ email /dcc it to me?


  • #11
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    FWIW, http://www.cs.tcd.ie/~higels/eye.zip

    Though I think tracking down your networking problem properly might be a worthwhile endevour... do you want to send me a traceroute from your desktop to the eye update server? I can compare it with mine, which I know is working.

    The opflash server seems stable enough now. If you connect to office.newisland.ie on the usual port, you should see it. There's only about 6 maps on rotation at the moment. I haven't tried using any missions that require addons.


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  • #12
    rob1891
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,038 ✭✭✭rob1891


    had a go of it just now, co-op on my own! First thing I noticed was the patch level, it's at version 1.85, latest is 1.91 with 1.92 in the pipeline.

    Next bit, which I really love, is that my traffic is routed through new york, traceroute below if you don't want to believe me!! I'm on IrishBroadband and they musn't be linked in to eircom, what fun! Ping is around 160 mark, kind of playable, I notice soldiers jumping forwards or backwards every now and then.

    So I guess I will have to ask IBB to get connected to eircom at a more local level! I still have a problem with all on line games I've tried with IBB (only ofp and bf1942) that is the connection goes dead for 30 seconds every half hour or so (seems once per game), because of this I haven't really been going game crazy. Only happens to me it seems, oh well.

    Hopefully a few others will try it out and post up here. Thanks for setting it up,

    Rob



    C:\>tracert office.newisland.ie

    Tracing route to office.newisland.ie [62.77.173.72]
    over a maximum of 30 hops:

    1 <10 ms <10 ms <10 ms PHOENIX [192.168.0.1]
    2 * * * Request timed out.
    3 * * * Request timed out.
    4 109 ms 16 ms 16 ms ibis-gw-fe-0-1-3.irishbroadband.ie [195.26.12.61
    ]
    5 172 ms 15 ms 47 ms 208.175.247.81
    6 15 ms 16 ms 31 ms ycr2-ge-2-0-0.Dublin.cw.net [208.175.245.69]
    7 156 ms 110 ms 31 ms bcr2-so-2-0-0.Thamesside.cw.net [166.63.209.197]

    8 109 ms 109 ms 110 ms dcr2-loopback.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.194.100]
    9 94 ms 156 ms 109 ms agr4-so-4-0-0.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.207.78]
    10 110 ms 94 ms 109 ms acr2-loopback.NewYork.cw.net [206.24.194.62]
    11 141 ms 265 ms 156 ms 206.24.193.158
    12 109 ms 125 ms 110 ms e2-0.bas1.prp.dublin.eircom.net [159.134.155.98]

    13 * * * Request timed out.
    14 156 ms 344 ms 172 ms 62-77-173-72.customer.eircom.net [62.77.173.72]


    Trace complete.

    C:\>


  • #13
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    Hi, glad you tried it out and that it worked (vaguely). The patch version mentioned implies the minimum client patch required to connect, not the actual version of the server. To the very best of my knowledge the server is 1.91.

    You routing problems seem to be easily rectifiable by IBB. From me to the first gateway mentioned:

    traceroute 195.26.12.61
    traceroute to 195.26.12.61 (195.26.12.61), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
    1 * * *
    2 159.134.155.6 (159.134.155.6) 49.865 ms 52.765 ms 49.767 ms
    3 159.134.155.97 (159.134.155.97) 49.867 ms 49.425 ms 51.598 ms
    4 159.134.191.98 (159.134.191.98) 67.833 ms 63.231 ms 67.841 ms
    5 linx-ge7-0-oscar.lon.router.colt.net (195.66.224.49) 69.812 ms 67.023 ms 67.665 ms
    6 217.173.97.106 (217.173.97.106) 84.524 ms 91.386 ms 84.200 ms
    7 s1-0-1.xp-interxion.1.0.1.s.uk.colt.net (217.173.96.218) 83.563 ms 82.914 ms 81.911 ms
    8 ibis-gw-fe-0-1-3.irishbroadband.ie (195.26.12.61) 145.692 ms 145.949 ms 147.780 ms

    Something odd going there. I'd suspect they need to fiddle their routing tables a bit. You IBB people get stupidly low pings anyway. I'm amazed that a round trip through new york is only 180.

    EDIT: I hadn't specified the config file properly on the server. Should have some decent maps now.


  • #14
    Carbiens
    Closed Accounts Posts: 593 ✭✭✭Carbiens


    id love to join but does anyone know how itll run on an isdn line?

    havent tried it yet and i wont have my own machine handy for a week


  • #15
    po0k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    Should be sound, we'll only have a handful on the server, you won't be swamped :)

    I'll be working alte all week this week, anyone want to organise something for Sunday night week (tonight + 7 days) ?


  • #16
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    That would be perfect, only I'm going to Slovenia for 2 weeks on Saturday. I'll leave the server running anyway.

    At the moment, it's running the 6 band of comrades missions and the desert ambush mission, all of which have been fiddled to have squad respawn.

    Any further requests?


  • #17
    po0k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    Could you post the IP and port(s) again please?

    Thx :)


  • #18
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    certainly sir -

    62.77.173.72 - office.newisland.ie

    UDP port 2302.


  • #19
    po0k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    Seems to be down at the moment

    It's a Resistance server isn't it?
    Connect port 2302 and query port 2303 ?

    I've forwarded 2302 to my IP on the lan, but not 2303.


  • #20
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    I've just connected to it fine... It's up and running. The firewall forwards udp-2302 to the server... that's all and it works without a bother for me.

    Unless you have something fruity going on with your router and assuming you have a nice outbound nat which handles both udp + tcp, it shouldn't be a prob.

    I'm connected to it now, if you anyone wants a game.


  • #21
    po0k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    I'll try pisisng about with it this evening, forward *everything*in that range to my IP, see if I get any hits.

    Does 1.75+ still use a query port?


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  • #22
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    No idea about query port.

    You don't need to do any port forwarding. Anything you are trying will possibly break things. Basically, Opflash works like DNS - a request-reply UDP based protocol. If your general internet web browsing stuff is working (ie you are resolving names correctly), you should have to do anything.


  • #23
    po0k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    k, i'll try removing the port forwards.

    I'm trying to get details from ASE on teh server, I think it's the way I added them in.
    Need to check some stuff.


  • #24
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    Ah, hence you wanted to know about the query port. I'd imagine that is what is wrong. Try connecting from the game itself.

    Next time you try it, aim or msn me (IRLSteffen and higels@hotmail.com respectively) and I'll run a tcpdump on the router.


  • #25
    po0k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    just tried joining there from withing the game, the server seems to be down.


  • #26
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    There was a powercut and I didn't get a chance to restart the server.

    sorry about that.


  • #27
    El Marco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭El Marco


    Well I'm getting dsl in a few days so when the server is back up I'll be more than happy to play.

    I have all the BAS addons and missions but may I suggest a game for us to organise. It's an addon called MF Capture the Island, I'm not usre if you've heard of it but it's an excellant mod by which you run free and capture towns against an opposing team.

    http://mfcti.sourceforge.net/

    Great fun with a few people, you can really get some tactics going.


  • #28
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    Yeah? Never heard of it. I'll take a look at it later.

    How many people do you need for it to get seriously good?


  • #29
    po0k
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    I've to totally re-install my machine ( big job, 2x 120gigs, 1x 80gig, lots of files to be transferred about, dual-booting 2k with Debian)
    Might be ready by thursday.

    might I suggest we just get some vanilla missions going first, simple team deathmatch stuff for the moment until we get organised and setttled?

    Also, ssh, if you could give some sort of a guide or link to same as to how to admin a dedicated server it'd be appreciated. :)


  • #30
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    All in my noggin. I use a server.cfg which I can stick up here. Most of it has been trial and error. I would recommend staying away from the Linux dedicated server, it's a little cruddy in places.

    Anyway, I'll hang around the server for some co-op from about 1900ish on Thursday, all free to join, numbers probably limited by bandwidth on server end.


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  • #31
    po0k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    cool, I'll leave this install live and will try and join in.

    if ye leave yourselves idling in #opflash.ie on quakenet (ign.ie.quakenet.org)
    we cn coordinate things if shit happpens.


  • #32
    El Marco
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,031 ✭✭✭El Marco


    ssh, can you answer my question on this thread about how to set up a dedicated server, because me and my mates have lans and I have an extra machine to host an op flash server. The main reason I want to set one up is because mf cti is a real system hog and my fps drop dramaticly after a while and the ai units build up.

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=111732


  • #33
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    Well that was a bit of a laugh...

    There isn't nearly enough upload bandwidth on the server for more than 3 or 4 people, which is a pity. The whole thing seemed quite laggy. There were two of us playing off my dsl line, which may have twisted my perception of it a bit though.

    Hopefully we can get another game going in the not too distant future.


  • #34
    The_Bullman
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,997 ✭✭✭The_Bullman


    I really enjoyed the map that we finally played on. Mostly because I am familiar with it. (Its the one we played at the last galwaylan in the anno John) I have played that map a fair few times but it is the first time that I've actually finished it. Got myself reaquainted with the choppers(how I love them) even though I didn't do any shooting, found out that you can refuel in midair :) , and generally kicked ass (/me rubs the M21)

    My enjoyment was only slightly hampered by the lag. the only difference was that it took a few more rounds to kill the enemy as they were running, once they lay still, they were history :D

    Sign me up for more lads. One suggestion, could you tell us what maps you are thinking of playing so we can have them downloaded before the game starts. 2 reasons. Firstly it is handy to have a read through of the map and maybe have a run through just to get a feel of things. Secondly, it was a little dull waiting to download the maps, especially since your dsl left me for dust :(

    I want more!


  • #35
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    I don't think you can pre-download missions. If you look in $Opflashdir/MPMissionscache, and there is stuff in there, you should be in luck.

    If not, I'll remove the intros from the missions I think are worth playing. For the moment, at least, I'll leave in DesertAmbush, and probably put in the co-op mission that came with resistance (it's really good, another mission that takes a while to finish).

    I think I'm going to run the server on a windows machine next time. The AI are as thick as **** under the Linux one :(

    Also, if anyone wants one of the missions from the SP game put into Co-op mode, I can probably manage that.


  • #36
    po0k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,817 ✭✭✭✭po0k


    Right, my netsource connection has imporved recently, anyone up for a game sunday?


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  • #37
    Dawg
    Closed Accounts Posts: 134 ✭✭Dawg


    I wouldn't mind getting in on a game some time soon. My modem /should/ be arriving tomorrow, so I'll finally be able to try out OpFlash multiplayer :D - been looking forward to it for a while.
    I don't have Resistance though, just the Gold Edition. Is it needed for many servers? If it is then I'll have to go look round the shops this weekend, see can I pick it up cheap somewhere.


  • #38
    ssh
    Closed Accounts Posts: 484 ✭✭ssh


    Sunday should be good. I'll log onto #opflash.ie to sort it out.

    I'm going to get interleaving removed on that line (either that, or move it to esat business), but I doubt it will happen before Sunday...

    Dawg, yeah, resistance is needed, not many people play plain old opflash anymore.


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