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SJW campaign leads to porn star suicide.

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  • #2
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    You know the world's gone off the deep end when self-styled 'feminists' actually put political correctness above the concept of consent when it comes to sex. Jesus Christ. :eek:


  • #3
    padd b1975
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,784 ✭✭✭✭padd b1975


    A line has been crossed.


  • #4
    Sonics2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,253 ✭✭✭Sonics2k


    I mean, from reading the tweet she sent out first it wasn't exactly very well put.

    But with that said, the amount of abuse she got afterwards was certainly over the top.


  • #5
    Gijoseph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Gijoseph


    Sonics2k wrote: »
    I mean, from reading the tweet she sent out first it wasn't exactly very well put.
    .

    How?


  • #6
    Speedwell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    Independently of anything here, including the telltale "SJW" which announces to the aware that the OP is against social justice, bullying should always come with consequences.

    Particularly if the bullying is aimed at people who are legitimately defending their own or someone else's civil rights and personal boundaries.


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  • #7
    Apollo Creamy Crucifix
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,249 ✭✭✭ Apollo Creamy Crucifix


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    You know the world's gone off the deep end when self-styled 'feminists' actually put political correctness above the concept of consent when it comes to sex. Jesus Christ. :eek:
    Theyre eating each other up, they're never coherent and setting themselves backwards with their creedo


  • #8
    suicide_circus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,802 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    If bakers can be forced to make gay cakes....


    *Runs away*


  • #9
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Of course this is horrific, but since it only happened over the course of a few days I would imagine that the poor girl was in a bad place to begin with and this tipped her over the edge. You don't go from complete wellness to suicidal in the space of days, even with vicious bullying.

    None of which excuses any of it.


  • #10
    TerrorFirmer
    Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Gijoseph wrote: »
    How?

    I suppose from the tweet, the internet moral police decided it was because she was homophobic and loathe to work with someone who is gay rather than it being a valid health concern with logical reasoning behind it.


  • #11
    Caliden
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,982 ✭✭✭Caliden


    Candie wrote: »

    None of which excuses any of it.

    No it doesn't so why try to?


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  • #12
    Gijoseph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Gijoseph


    Speedwell wrote: »
    Independently of anything here, including the telltale "SJW" which announces to the aware that the OP is against social justice, bullying should always come with consequences.

    I would class this campaign as being perpetrated by SJWS. As in people who go into overdrive about something that is said rather than the meaning behind it. Looks like your post, being so aware and all, ironically missed the point entirely.


  • #13
    Ubbquittious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,256 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    Can we not just build a wall around the united states and cut them off from the rest of the world?


  • #14
    Speedwell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    Gijoseph wrote: »
    I would class this campaign as being perpetrated by SJWS. As in people who go into overdrive about something that is said rather than the meaning behind it. Looks like your post, being so aware and all, ironically missed the point entirely.

    As we used to say in Texas, "the whipped dog howls". My comment stung you a bit, didn't it.


  • #15
    Gijoseph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Gijoseph


    TerrorFirmer wrote: »
    I suppose from the tweet, the internet moral police decided it was because she was homophobic and loathe to work with someone who is gay rather than it being a valid health concern with logical reasoning behind it.

    Bingo. And thats why I used the term SJW. I don't use it liberally like some people but in this case the term is apt.


  • #16
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 26,052 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Caliden wrote: »
    No it doesn't so why try to?

    I didn't. I looked for further explanation. Go ahead and pretend otherwise if you want to though, it would suit you better.


  • #17
    Saruhashi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Saruhashi


    Speedwell wrote: »
    Independently of anything here, including the telltale "SJW" which announces to the aware that the OP is against social justice, bullying should always come with consequences.

    Particularly if the bullying is aimed at people who are legitimately defending their own or someone else's civil rights and personal boundaries.

    I though SJW stood for "Social Justice Warrior" and that the "Warrior" part of that is used in a sarcastic way? As in they are anything but "warriors" and don't do much real fighting for actual social justice.

    More accurate to say the OP is against Social Justice Warriors than to say that the OP is against Social Justice.

    Do you think other posters are stupid and won't pick up on this?


  • #18
    neonsofa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,476 ✭✭✭neonsofa


    So sad for such a young woman and her poor family and friends left behind. Jesus.


  • #19
    Speedwell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    Saruhashi wrote: »
    I though SJW stood for "Social Justice Warrior" and that the "Warrior" part of that is used in a sarcastic way? As in they are anything but "warriors" and don't do much real fighting for actual social justice.

    More accurate to say the OP is against Social Justice Warriors than to say that the OP is against Social Justice.

    Do you think other posters are stupid and won't pick up on this?

    No. I actually think people who use the term SJW are sneering at the idea of social justice itself. Which is, if you know the history of the "SJW" term, the actual case.


  • #20
    Saruhashi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Saruhashi


    Speedwell wrote: »
    No. I actually think people who use the term SJW are sneering at the idea of social justice itself. Which is, if you know the history of the "SJW" term, the actual case.

    So you're some kind of mind reader? Impressive.


  • #21
    c_man
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,436 ✭✭✭c_man


    Very sad but I'm not surprised. Twitter is infested with such SJWs loons, why people post there and open themselves to the judgement of the mob is beyond me. If someone is in a bad state mentally then I can see how such bullying would be devastating.


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  • #22
    Speedwell
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,809 ✭✭✭Speedwell


    Saruhashi wrote: »
    So you're some kind of mind reader? Impressive.

    No, just a reader.


  • #23
    Pero_Bueno
    Closed Accounts Posts: 502 ✭✭✭Pero_Bueno


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    You know the world's gone off the deep end when self-styled 'feminists' actually put political correctness above the concept of consent when it comes to sex. Jesus Christ. :eek:
    ^^
    Bang on !


  • #24
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Seemingly she suffered very heavily from depression, but kept it mostly under wraps. Other porn stars have posted saying they wished she had reached out to them or anyone about it. What the people did was absolutely vile; nobody should succumb to that kind of abuse because of a personal choice with regards to sexual preferences, but it also should have a message -- if you're suffering from depression, are in a bad patch, or anything else, talk to someone about it. Be it a professional, a friend, a family member, or anybody. Don't suffer in silence.


  • #25
    LadyMacBeth_
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,070 ✭✭✭LadyMacBeth_


    Well I can understand her reasoning if there isn't compulsory STI testing of men who do gay porn, (I don't know anything about this but I assume she does) even if they wear condoms for penetration, I doubt they wear them for blow jobs and that can be a way of passing on STIs too. It doesn't sound to me like she's homophobic but she could have phrased it a bit better, it sounds like she won't sleep with men who've had sex with men. Then again Twitter does limit how much you can say in a tweet. I think the backlash was uncalled for, but I also think that like Candie said she probably wasn't in a great place to begin with. Either way it's sad and the bullying was avoidable if some people weren't so quick to get out their pitchforks.


  • #26
    Rory28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,190 ✭✭✭Rory28


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Seemingly she suffered very heavily from depression, but kept it mostly under wraps. Other porn stars have posted saying they wished she had reached out to them or anyone about it. What the people did was absolutely vile; nobody should succumb to that kind of abuse because of a personal choice with regards to sexual preferences, but it also should have a message -- if you're suffering from depression, are in a bad patch, or anything else, talk to someone about it. Be it a professional, a friend, a family member, or anybody. Don't suffer in silence.

    I dont think this had anything to do with sexual preferences. She is not the only porn star who doesnt work with crossover stars. Its not about hate its more about a fear of aids. Completely understandable imo.


  • #27
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    Speedwell wrote: »
    No. I actually think people who use the term SJW are sneering at the idea of social justice itself. Which is, if you know the history of the "SJW" term, the actual case.

    If you try to change what people meant to fit your own agenda sure you're going to find a way to have an argument with them over nothing.

    SJWs are some of the most toxic people on the planet. They don't want any sort of justice, they get a kick out of making peoples lives hell via the internet.


  • #28
    Stone Deaf 4evr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,000 ✭✭✭Stone Deaf 4evr


    this bit kinda blows me away:

    “In light of today's tragic news Brazzers has decided to postpone the release of tonight's scheduled August Ames scene,” it said. "The scene will be posted at a more appropriate time, as we come to terms with this devastating loss. Thank you for your understanding.”

    so, no w@nking to the dead girl tonight, but you'll be able to get sorted down the road. :eek::eek:


  • #29
    Dyr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,246 ✭✭✭✭Dyr


    Candie wrote: »
    Of course this is horrific, but since it only happened over the course of a few days I would imagine that the poor girl was in a bad place to begin with and this tipped her over the edge. You don't go from complete wellness to suicidal in the space of days, even with vicious bullying.

    None of which excuses any of it.

    You know when that sort of observation comes from other camps, you have people piling in screaming "victim blaming"

    It just goes to show that this generation of identity politics obsessed hysterics need to be stamped out


  • #30
    Hitman3000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,596 ✭✭✭Hitman3000


    suicide_circus wrote:
    If bakers can be forced to make gay cakes....


    A gay cake?


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  • #31
    trellheim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,965 ✭✭✭trellheim


    This is incredibly sad. Poor girl.


  • #32
    GarIT
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    hatrickpatrick wrote: »
    You know the world's gone off the deep end when self-styled 'feminists' actually put political correctness above the concept of consent when it comes to sex. Jesus Christ. :eek:

    It's happened to me once before and has happened to lots of friends too. I was bullied for not being willing to kiss a fat girl. I've seen friend bullied for not being willing to have sex with someone who said they were a woman but was born a man and hadn't had any surgery yet (I don't know the correct term, pre-op trans maybe?.


  • #33
    Permabear
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #34
    greencap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »
    this bit kinda blows me away:

    “In light of today's tragic news Brazzers has decided to postpone the release of tonight's scheduled August Ames scene,” it said. "The scene will be posted at a more appropriate time, as we come to terms with this devastating loss. Thank you for your understanding.”

    so, no w@nking to the dead girl tonight, but you'll be able to get sorted down the road. :eek::eek:

    Think of it as an unreleased Bowie track - but just with more cum.

    Or an unreleased George Michael video - but with just slightly less cum.

    discussion/2058195983/russia-threadbanned-users-in-op/p3135

    😁



  • #35
    Gijoseph
    Closed Accounts Posts: 64 ✭✭Gijoseph


    Bambi wrote: »
    You know when that sort of observation comes from other camps, you have people piling in screaming "victim blaming"

    It just goes to show that this generation of identity politics obsessed hysterics need to be stamped out

    Nail on the head. The same people who cry victim blaming in the usual topics on here are doing the exact same thing. I enjoy watching these people become massive hypocrites.


  • #36
    Your Face
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    The whole thing is greasy.


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  • #37
    GLaDOS
    Moderators, Regional East Moderators Posts: 23,228 Mod ✭✭✭✭GLaDOS


    Twitter is a fúcking cesspool. Hoards of people happy to abuse anyone and everyone for the slightest of reasons.

    RIP to the poor girl.

    Cake, and grief counseling, will be available at the conclusion of the test



  • #38
    RGDATA!
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,324 ✭✭✭RGDATA!


    Saruhashi wrote: »
    I though SJW stood for "Social Justice Warrior" and that the "Warrior" part of that is used in a sarcastic way?

    so you're some kind of mind reader?


  • #39
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    Stone Deaf 4evr wrote: »
    this bit kinda blows me away:

    “In light of today's tragic news Brazzers has decided to postpone the release of tonight's scheduled August Ames scene,” it said. "The scene will be posted at a more appropriate time, as we come to terms with this devastating loss. Thank you for your understanding.”

    so, no w@nking to the dead girl tonight, but you'll be able to get sorted down the road. :eek::eek:

    ... I mean it's no different to them releasing a Hunger Games movie the year after Philip Seymour Hoffman died.

    There's precedents for content to be released posthumously -- only in this case, it's porn.


  • #40
    Tell me how
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,942 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    Speedwell wrote: »
    No. I actually think people who use the term SJW are sneering at the idea of social justice itself. Which is, if you know the history of the "SJW" term, the actual case.

    I am passionately in favour of social justice for all but I do differentiate clearly between the warriors (the few) and the advocates (the many).

    The term SJW, in my mind is suitable for the likes of the students who challenged Professor Christakis at Yale. Not so much because they challenged him (which I wouldn't agree with anyway) but because how they did so and refused to engage in debate with him. The vast majority of marchers in the Womens Marches earlier this year, for example were advocates. Misue of the term is polarising but there are times when it is appropriate.



    In this instance, I agree with the poster that said that unfortunately, this lady was probably in a difficult place leading up to the last few days and the reaction over this was the final straw.


  • #41
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Nothing wrong with what she said. But I'd imagine she wasn't in a sound space to begin with. Although Twitter can be a scourge, people don't take their lives solely off the back of vicious comments directed at them on a social platform. There must have been other factors at play and this merely compounded her already fragile state.

    Having said that. Twitter makes it too easy for people to mock and deride others just for sharing a difference in opinion. I said this in another thread yesterday but It really is a cesspit. I would say it's an example of social media at its worst. The amount of bullying, shaming, harassment that is apparent on it is overwhelming. I've seen people being hounded for sharing a difference of opinion, their place of work shared, parental/marital/relationship status shamed- all in the name of one comment or remark that a group of people take issue with and feel it's okay to mock and deride everything about you. These things gain momentum too so an off the cuff remark can be retweeted and forwarded, shared and shamed before you know it. Mad.
    I can imagine how easy it must be for a flippant remark to get out of hand and if you're already in a bad place it just exacerbates an existing problem.


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  • #42
    hatrickpatrick
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,797 ✭✭✭✭hatrickpatrick


    Speedwell wrote: »
    Independently of anything here, including the telltale "SJW" which announces to the aware that the OP is against social justice, bullying should always come with consequences.

    Particularly if the bullying is aimed at people who are legitimately defending their own or someone else's civil rights and personal boundaries.

    SJWs aren't just people who support social justice, the word "SJW" refers to those who shame and bully everyone who doesn't agree with radical identity politics.

    EDIT: Case in point, I vehemently support repealing the eighth amendment, but I don't believe in denying the pro-life crowd a platform to campaign against repealing it. SJWs, on the other hand, think it's ok within a democratic system to pull down the opposition's posters, and harass third party platforms into denying them a meeting space or a voice.


  • #43
    Saruhashi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Saruhashi


    Speedwell wrote: »
    No, just a reader.

    Great then you'll have read that people who are supposedly fighting for social justice managed to bully a woman, who seemingly was already in a vulnerable state, to the point where she committed suicide.

    I'm sorry but if part of being a warrior for social justice means harassing people on social media then I think it's fair to call out "SJWs" as a bit of a problem.

    No idea why you would try to cover for them in this instance. It's clear who the type of people harassing this woman are and the term that is commonly used to define such people is "SJW".

    Sure, though it's the person who shared the story that's bad. They obviously have some issue with social justice.

    Let's just ignore the bullying that led to the death of this woman because someone used the label that is most commonly used to describe these bullies.

    The people who bullied and harassed this woman and the people who peddle the kind of rhetoric that leads to this kind of behavior online are commonly referred to as "SJWs".

    Why throw shade at anyone who refers to them as such?

    Hey lads, I think this woman might be homophobic so let's drive her to suicide in the name of social justice. Don't worry anyone who criticizes us will be shut down by useful idiots who can just imply that our critics are against social justice.

    "Hans... are we the baddies?"


  • #44
    Ubbquittious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,256 ✭✭✭Ubbquittious


    How do you pronounce SJW in real life? Sidge-a-woo?


  • #45
    o1s1n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,259 ✭✭✭✭o1s1n
    Master of the Universe


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    ... I mean it's no different to them releasing a Hunger Games movie the year after Philip Seymour Hoffman died.

    There's precedents for content to be released posthumously -- only in this case, it's porn.

    Do to you regularly fantasize about sleeping with Philip Seymour Hoffman what watching The Hunger Games?

    Otherwise you're not really comparing like for like.


  • #46
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    I feel like SJW is like "f*ckboy". It's a term that's thrown around quite a lot lately, but if you ask people exactly what they mean, nobody really has a definitive answer.
    o1s1n wrote: »
    Do to you regularly fantasize about sleeping with Philip Seymour Hoffman what watching The Hunger Games?

    Otherwise you're not really comparing like for like.

    TBH I don't think there is much of a difference. Both are media. Do you think it shouldn't be released? If not, why not?


  • #47
    Saruhashi
    Closed Accounts Posts: 591 ✭✭✭Saruhashi


    RGDATA! wrote: »
    so you're some kind of mind reader?

    See the question mark at the end of my sentence?

    "I thought SJW stood for "Social Justice Warrior" and that the "Warrior" part of that is used in a sarcastic way?"

    That's what we refer to as a question. So rather than me making a statement about another poster or making a firm declaration about what they are thinking I have put a question mark in there that would allow them to reply.

    So they could for example say "no the warrior part in SJW is actually sincere as SJWs are literally fighting for social justice".

    No mind reading attempt there.


  • #48
    greencap
    Registered Users Posts: 2,102 ✭✭✭greencap


    Gijoseph wrote: »
    Nail on the head. The same people who cry victim blaming in the usual topics on here are doing the exact same thing. I enjoy watching these people become massive hypocrites.

    People of all persuasions and camps and sides do this kind of thing, the pile on.

    The opportunity to vent ones bile safely and almost anonymously, with the support of the crowd against one individual, especially one found in the wrong.

    I've experience of it myself, albeit for much less serious stuff.

    I had the crowd turn on me and for no reason, two or three people targeted me, a fourth saw and joined in, then a fifth and so on, til there was about 30 people just trying to pick on me for nothing in particular - not whinging its just I've seen it first hand, you don't have to even do anything, if some people see the opportunity they'll join in like rioters. Vent their spleen from safety and fade away.

    discussion/2058195983/russia-threadbanned-users-in-op/p3135

    😁



  • #49
    AustinLostin
    Registered Users Posts: 181 ✭✭AustinLostin


    What hate did she receive? Report just details what she said. Tragic in any case.


  • #50
    Infini
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,573 ✭✭✭Infini


    From our greatest asset: Urban Dictionary!

    "Social Justice Warrior

    A person who uses the fight for civil rights as an excuse to be rude, condescending, and sometimes violent for the purpose of relieving their frustrations or validating their sense of unwarranted moral superiority. The behaviors of Social justice warriors usually have a negative impact on the civil rights movement, turning away potential allies and fueling the resurgence of bigoted groups that scoop up people who have been burned or turned off by social justice warriors.

    If social justice warriors would just fu'ck off, we could actually make some progress."


  • #51
    Hector Bellend
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,667 ✭✭✭Hector Bellend


    August Ames had a fantastic pair of fun bags on her.

    I'll miss her.


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