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18-12-2016, 12:37   #1
 
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Storm Barbara - 23rd December 2016

The Christmas Day storm!
It already looks epic from 7 days beforehand.
The Question is will it be too windy on the day for Santy and the reindeer to land safely??
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Met eireann highlighted the storm for next weekend on the farming weather....extremely windy or stormy xmass eve nite into Sunday
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Christmas Storms

Mods given the forecast for next week with the possibility of stormy conditions should we open a thread for this, delete if you don't think so
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The timing is awful. Hopefully it's not going to become Ireland's Cyclone Tracy which occurred on Christmas Eve/Christmas Day 1974 and basically flattened Darwin, Australia. Obviously a far milder version of that forecast but there's a chance a destructive enough storm could happen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_Tracy

I remember in the summer of 1988 watching a 2 part (consecutive nights) TV show on RTE on Cyclone Tracy. It has stayed with me since.
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The timing is awful. Hopefully it's not going to become Ireland's Cyclone Tracy which occurred on Christmas Eve/Christmas Day 1974 and basically flattened Darwin, Australia. Obviously a far milder version of that forecast but there's a chance a destructive enough storm could happen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyclone_Tracy

I remember in the summer of 1988 watching a 2 part (consecutive nights) TV show on RTE on Cyclone Tracy. It has stayed with me since.
My own personal worst experience of bad wind storms has to be storm Darwin on the 12th Feb 2014. All my time farming here I've never experienced anything like it or the damage caused. It was 6 days before electricity was restored to this part of wexford.
There was trees down on all the roads (some blown over from their roots, others like big oak and beech trees snapped like twigs middle ways).
There was roofs blown off sheds everywhere. We were ok but some of the cows were calved at the time and every day since the storm we were told that electricity would be back that evening, but never happened and if you ventured in the yard it was unbearable to listen to the cows bawling at you to be milked.
Eventually we got a generator and got them milked before the power came back.

But the damage to some other farmers was unbelievable. A farmer near the mountain had their milking parlour roof blown off and it even ripped the roof panel off on his tractor. Then some neighbours had tiles and slates blown off their dwelling houses and a large section of forestry on the mountain was flattened.

So while I am intrigued by our different weather conditions, you kind of don't want to see the same damage done again as before. But looking at the conditions that spawned Darwin you can kind of see similarities to this forecasted storm.
Very Strong Jetstream - Check.
Intense cold air pool in the north atlantic - Check.

http://www.met.ie/climate-ireland/we...tormDarwin.pdf
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My own personal worst experience of bad wind storms has to be storm Darwin on the 12th Feb 2014. All my time farming here I've never experienced anything like it or the damage caused. It was 6 days before electricity was restored to this part of wexford.
There was trees down on all the roads (some blown over from their roots, others like big oak and beech trees snapped like twigs middle ways).
There was roofs blown off sheds everywhere. We were ok but some of the cows were calved at the time and every day since the storm we were told that electricity would be back that evening, but never happened and if you ventured in the yard it was unbearable to listen to the cows bawling at you to be milked.
Eventually we got a generator and got them milked before the power came back.

But the damage to some other farmers was unbelievable. A farmer near the mountain had their milking parlour roof blown off and it even ripped the roof panel off on his tractor. Then some neighbours had tiles and slates blown off their dwelling houses and a large section of forestry on the mountain was flattened.

So while I am intrigued by our different weather conditions, you kind of don't want to see the same damage done again as before. But looking at the conditions that spawned Darwin you can kind of see similarities to this forecasted storm.
Very Strong Jetstream - Check.
Intense cold air pool in the north atlantic - Check.

http://www.met.ie/climate-ireland/we...tormDarwin.pdf
It was something else. We were in the middle of calving too but have a suckler herd and hadn't the pressure of milk. But the usual hassles with getting water to them etc with electricity gone. At home there were 2 hours that afternoon between 3 and 5pm that i don't recall being surpassed in storm intensity. Kilkenny city declared a state of emergency.

1997 Christmas eve just about equalled it at times for me. I had a bit of misadventure bringing a mare in from a field who reared up frightened and hit me with a front foot knocking me out for an hour! It was too dangerous to go to casualty and 20 yrs ago we'd want to be half dead to go anyway.

http://met.ie/climate-ireland/weathe...1997_storm.PDF
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Bring it on, Storm Barbara better be good. Peanuts, wine, candles and camera at the ready
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Father Christmas better have some extra Reindeer power!
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What is the actual forecast?
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What is the actual forecast?

http://www.rte.ie/player/ie/show/far...3260/10664004/
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While all eyes are on Christmas eve / day we should keep an eye for the potentially very windy/ stormy weather on Fri also now starting to come in to a more reliable timeframe ( but of course open to change ). One conciliation is it looks to pass over quickly on latest runs.





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It can stay away until I land in Dublin midday Christmas Eve!
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Considering the ECM and GEM, the chances of a stormy Christmas day are low.
Oddly this also decreases the chances of any flakes as the ECM is quite mild.
Next.....
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Siobhan Ryan on Radio 1 forecast there "we will probably see a few named storms before years end and we in Met Eireann are keeping a close eye on Friday at the moment"
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Fri looking increasingly windy







850hPa ECMWF

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