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06-06-2012, 15:51   #1
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itx build

Hello there,

Haven't built a PC in a long time and am looking to build a HTPC that I could upgrade in the future to play games on.

Intel Core i5-3450 Tray, LGA1155
ASUS Z77E-ITX, Socket 1155, ATX
Antec Cooler 920 H2O
8GB Kit Corsair XMS3 Dominator PC3-12800 CL8-8-8-24 (DDR3-1600)
Lian Li PC-V354R - red, mATX without PSU
be quiet! Straight Power BQT E8-400W
ASUS ENGT440 SL/DI/1GD3 DC, 1GB DDR3, PCI Express
Seagate Barracuda 5900.3 SATA 3 Green 2TB 6Gb / s 64MB 8.9 cm (3.5 ")

What do you think?
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Hello there,

Haven't built a PC in a long time and am looking to build a HTPC that I could upgrade in the future to play games on.

Intel Core i5-3450 Tray, LGA1155
ASUS Z77E-ITX, Socket 1155, ATX
Antec Cooler 920 H2O
8GB Kit Corsair XMS3 Dominator PC3-12800 CL8-8-8-24 (DDR3-1600)
Lian Li PC-V354R - red, mATX without PSU
be quiet! Straight Power BQT E8-400W
ASUS ENGT440 SL/DI/1GD3 DC, 1GB DDR3, PCI Express
Seagate Barracuda 5900.3 SATA 3 Green 2TB 6Gb / s 64MB 8.9 cm (3.5 ")

What do you think?
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06-06-2012, 17:37   #3
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Depends on how much you are willing to spend. Answer the questions above.

ItemPrice
BitFenix Merc Alpha€31.61
Intel Core i3-2120 Box, LGA1155€107.48
ASRock H61DE/S3, Sockel 1155, ATX€58.25
LiteOn iHAS122-18 schwarz SATA€16.68
Seagate Barracuda 7200 500GB SATA 6GB's€62.72
Samsung SSD 830 64GB SATA 6GB's PC Upgrade Kit€87.14
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W€41.80
Shipping€18.99
Total€424.67

Overclockable
ItemPrice
BitFenix Merc Alpha€31.61
LiteOn iHAS122-18 schwarz SATA€16.68
Seagate Barracuda 7200 500GB SATA 6GB's€62.72
Samsung SSD 830 64GB SATA 6GB's PC Upgrade Kit€87.14
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W€41.80
ASRock Z68 Pro3 Gen3, Sockel 1155, ATX€82.61
Intel Core i5-2500K Box, LGA1155€192.84
Shipping€18.99
Total€534.39

Cheap and cheerful
ItemPrice
BitFenix Merc Alpha€31.61
LiteOn iHAS122-18 schwarz SATA€16.68
Seagate Barracuda 7200 500GB SATA 6GB's€62.72
Samsung SSD 830 64GB SATA 6GB's PC Upgrade Kit€87.14
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W€41.80
Intel Celeron G540 Box, LGA1155€45.11
MSI H61M-P20 (G3), Intel H61, mATX€40.64
Shipping€18.99
Total€344.69

It would be easier to upgrade a ATX or MATX build that an ITX.
If you can't afford just remove the SSD.

EDIT:
This RAM for all of them. Wouldn't add to cart

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06-06-2012, 21:42   #4
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1. What is your budget? €600-€900

2. What will be the main purpose of the computer? HTPC

3. Do you need a copy of Windows? No

4. Can you use any parts from an old computer? No

5. Do you need a monitor? No

5a. If yes, what size do you need. [19'/20'/22'/24'/etc.]

5b. If no, what resolution is your current monitor and do you plan to upgrade in the near future? [1920x1080/1440x900/etc.] [Yes/No]

6. Do you need any of these peripherals? Keyboard and Wireless Card

7. Are you willing to try overclocking? Not sure

8. How can you pay? [Bank Transfer/Credit Card/Laser]

9. When are you purchasing? ASAP

10. If you need help building it, where are you based? Dublin

Why would I use this RAM over another?
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06-06-2012, 21:45   #5
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this looks interesting but not the case

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06-06-2012, 21:53   #6
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Why would I use this RAM over another?
Heat sinks don't really matter. DDR3 RAM doesn't get as hot as DDR2 so heat sinks are pretty much just for show.

And do you really need that size case?

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06-06-2012, 22:05   #7
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for the case, I'd like to go as small as possible
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for the case, I'd like to go as small as possible
ItemPrice
Lian Li PC-Q08B Mini-ITX Tower-Cube - schwarz€86.34
Super-Flower Amazon 80Plus 450W€41.80
Samsung SSD 830 64GB SATA 6GB's Paper Box€69.18
8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9€35.93
ASRock H77M-ITX, Sockel 1155, ITX€89.61
Seagate Pipeline 5900.2 2TB SATA€115.62
Thermalright True Spirit 120€23.92
Intel Core i5-3570K Box, LGA1155€212.12
Shipping€18.99
Total€693.51

That is more than you need to spend on a HTPC.
If you wan't you could get a bigger SSD and a GPU but that is grand.

EDIT:
HOW THE F DID I SPELL WANT WRONG

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07-06-2012, 10:36   #9
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You wouldn't be able to overclock with the H77. If you're going to get a "K" CPU, you might as well get a Z77 board. There was a Z68 board there a few weeks ago for about €100 but it's gone now so the only option for that range is the €131 Z77 board.
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/...2C+ITX.article

That's just thinking of the most upgradable PC for gaming at that size. But if you were to keep it as a HTPC, there's no need for anything above a celeron G530.

Alternatively, you can get a H61 for less than half the price.
http://www2.hardwareversand.de/DDR3/...2C+ITX.article
The downside is that you sacrifice a fair few features like SATA 6Gbps but at the end of the day, GPU and CPU performance will be essentially the same (overclocking aside).

The Q08B would be a good case to pair with a large graphics card, although you'd never fit that heatsink in on account of the PSU being right next to it. I think the best option would be one of those water cooling solutions as seen in this link:
http://www.overclock.net/t/757135/an...ian-li-pc-q08b
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Intel Celeron G530 Box, LGA1155€37.56
ASRock H61M-ITX, Sockel 1155, ITX€62.34
8GB-Kit G.Skill PC3-10667U CL9€35.93
Seagate Barracuda 7200 2000GB, SATA 6Gb/s€102.46
Samsung SSD 830 64GB SATA 6GB's Paper Box€69.18
LG BH10LS38 Blu-Ray Brenner Retail€73.49
Lian Li PC-Q08B Mini-ITX Tower-Cube - schwarz€86.34
Corsair Hydro Series H60 (Sockel 775/1156/1366/AM2/AM2+/AM3/FM1)€58.84
Shipping€18.99
Total€545.13

Added a Blu-ray drive, might as well on a HTPC. No need for anything other than a Celeron on a HTPC, put in a liquid cooler like Monotype suggested.
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I'd wait for the BitFenix Prodigy to come out if you building a Mini-iTX. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...=7&subcat=2279
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mOi_v...eature=g-all-u
Also, I wouldn't go for a Blue ray player. Because, you'll have to buy extra software in order to play blue ray movies and this ends up being a pain cos of the DRM updates. It's cheaper and easier to just go out and get a stand alone player.

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I wanted to include the Prodigy, but he's buying now.
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07-06-2012, 12:20   #13
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that case looks great but if I wait for that something will come along next month that I could wait for.

I'm thinking of changing this build to a HTPC machine only. I'll build a comp for games in the new year.

Would a Intel Core i3-2120T be ok for a processor.

I think I'm going to focus on keeping this machine as small and quiet as possible
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that case looks great but if I wait for that something will come along next month that I could wait for.

I'm thinking of changing this build to a HTPC machine only. I'll build a comp for games in the new year.

Would a Intel Core i3-2120T be ok for a processor.

I think I'm going to focus on keeping this machine as small and quiet as possible
Get the 2120, think it's a little better. Lovely processor too.
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If it's HTPC only, celeron G530 is plenty. Handles 1080p videos fine and despite the celeron name, it's a deceptively powerful dual core.
http://www1.hardwareversand.de/Socke...GA1155.article
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