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Household Charge Mega-Thread [Part 2] *Poll Reset*

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    #5792
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    Izzy Skint wrote: »
    just because something is lawful does not mean it is right.... ?
    Wait .. you think it is lawful now!

    That's fantastic progress.


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    #5793
    bgrizzley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭bgrizzley


    didnt ze blueshirts have this tax on the table before they got elected? wasnt that before they started saying the IMF made me do it?


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    #5794
    Izzy Skint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 304 ✭✭Izzy Skint


    dvpower wrote: »
    Wait .. you think it is lawful now!

    That's fantastic progress.
    sorry to disappoint....I said "just because SOMETHING is lawful doesn't mean that it is right"....I never said the hhc was lawful and personally I do not care whether it is or not..... the 'lawful' aspect is way down on my list of reasons for not paying the hhc....


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    #5795
    dvpower
    Closed Accounts Posts: 9,183 ✭✭✭dvpower


    bgrizzley wrote: »
    didnt ze blueshirts have this tax on the table before they got elected? wasnt that before they started saying the IMF made me do it?
    The bailout predates the election. FG didn't negotiate it.


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    #5796
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    So......

    Here you have it.

    Impending property tax to be 'on average' €1000 per house. :eek:

    Middle class earners to be hit the hardest (as per usual)

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/daniel-mcconnell-next-big-hot-potato-is-property-tax-of-up-to-1000-3175429.html

    The fun is about to start folks.


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    #5797
    Izzy Skint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 304 ✭✭Izzy Skint


    Ghandee wrote: »
    So......

    Here you have it.

    Impending property tax to be 'on average' €1000 per house. :eek:

    Middle class earners to be hit the hardest (as per usual)

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/daniel-mcconnell-next-big-hot-potato-is-property-tax-of-up-to-1000-3175429.html

    The fun is about to start folks.

    bring it on !


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    #5798
    bgrizzley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭bgrizzley


    Ghandee wrote: »
    So......

    Here you have it.

    Impending property tax to be 'on average' €1000 per house. :eek:

    Middle class earners to be hit the hardest (as per usual)

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/daniel-mcconnell-next-big-hot-potato-is-property-tax-of-up-to-1000-3175429.html

    The fun is about to start folks.

    its probably a kite from hogan" ah yeah shure dangle E1000 in front of them while im on holiday, they'll be feckin thankful after when we dip them for E500"


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    #5799
    Izzy Skint
    Closed Accounts Posts: 304 ✭✭Izzy Skint


    bgrizzley wrote: »
    its probably a kite from hogan" ah yeah shure dangle E1000 in front of them while im on holiday, they'll be feckin thankful after when we dip them for E500"
    They're making this up as they go, they seriously have not got a clue what to do!...relax everyone, just sit back and enjoy watching them balls this one up !


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    #5800
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Izzy Skint wrote: »
    They're making this up as they go, they seriously have not got a clue what to do!...relax everyone, just sit back and enjoy watching them balls this one up !



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    #5801
    Bruthal
    Closed Accounts Posts: 13,422 ✭✭✭✭Bruthal


    bgrizzley wrote: »
    its probably a kite from hogan" ah yeah shure dangle E1000 in front of them while im on holiday, they'll be feckin thankful after when we dip them for E500"

    Not far wrong I`d say. It would not surprise me if they still keep it relatively low next year, to reign in a few more that were expecting it to be 6 or 700.

    If they got a high percentage registered, they are then there for the taking.


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    #5802
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Surprised Alastair is not on saying that it's too cheap at 1,000e and trying to get a rise out of us.


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    #5803
    bgrizzley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭bgrizzley


    Jaysus, FG could have written this one about themselves.

    http://irishelectionliterature.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/they-will-tax-the-roof-over-your-head-fine-gael-anti-property-tax-leaflet-1994/


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    #5804
    bgrizzley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭bgrizzley


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Surprised Alastair is not on saying that it's too cheap at 1,000e and trying to get a rise out of us.

    im sure he is here with us in spirit......

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=79858640&postcount=5762


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    #5805
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    tayto lover wrote: »
    Surprised Alastair is not on saying that it's too cheap at 1,000e and trying to get a rise out of us.

    He's not been banned as far as I know but he got warned told in no uncertain terms not to post in this thread again. Him and Kr7.


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    #5806
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    bgrizzley wrote: »
    Jaysus, FG could have written this one about themselves.

    http://irishelectionliterature.wordpress.com/2010/01/16/they-will-tax-the-roof-over-your-head-fine-gael-anti-property-tax-leaflet-1994/

    Labour is the common denominator in all this too. They should be extinct in a few years time like the PD's and the Greens. The sooner the better. They have sold their souls for power.


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    #5807
    mikom
    Closed Accounts Posts: 16,391 ✭✭✭✭mikom


    Ghandee wrote: »
    So......

    Here you have it.

    Impending property tax to be 'on average' €1000 per house. :eek:

    Middle class earners to be hit the hardest (as per usual)

    http://www.independent.ie/national-news/daniel-mcconnell-next-big-hot-potato-is-property-tax-of-up-to-1000-3175429.html

    The fun is about to start folks.

    There will be blood....


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    #5808
    donalg1
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,513 ✭✭✭donalg1


    I would be fairly sceptical about the property tax being €1,000 next year for the majority of people as this would not lead to high collection rates. Plus the story is from the Independent. Best thing is to wait and see until it is announced there is no real way of knowing what I or anyone else will be paying next year.


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    #5809
    Am Chile
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,025 ✭✭✭Am Chile


    About half 3 I had a knock on the door from a council official, he would of being his fifties had a clipboard with him-when I answered the door he said may I ask the names of those living here, how many living in the house, it for the voting register he said-I told him Im not answering any of your questions-please leave my property-he left and went next door-I had the window open and overheard him asking the same questions-I strongly suspect the whole voting register thing is just an excuse to asked questions- this is being done as an Intel gathering exercise by the council gathering further info for next years property tax.


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    #5810
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    donalg1 wrote: »
    I would be fairly sceptical about the property tax being €1,000 next year for the majority of people as this would not lead to high collection rates. Plus the story is from the Independent. Best thing is to wait and see until it is announced there is no real way of knowing what I or anyone else will be paying next year.

    Dunno Donal.

    Not many shills have attempted to deny it as of yet.


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    #5811
    bgrizzley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭bgrizzley


    Am Chile wrote: »
    About half 3 I had a knock on the door from a council official, he would of being his fifties had a clipboard with him-when I answered the door he said may I ask the names of those living here, how many living in the house, it for the voting register he said-I told him Im not answering any of your questions-please leave my property-he left and went next door-I had the window open and overheard him asking the same questions-I strongly suspect the whole voting register thing is just an excuse to asked questions- this is being done as an Intel gathering exercise by the council gathering further info for next years property tax.

    wow. strange that you mention that. last week i had a neighbour, who walks by ever day, stop and talk. in the course of conversation he said he was over the register of electors in the locality and asked me did i want to go on it. i declined.
    coincidence maybe


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    #5812
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Am Chile wrote: »
    About half 3 I had a knock on the door from a council official, he would of being his fifties had a clipboard with him-when I answered the door he said may I ask the names of those living here, how many living in the house, it for the voting register he said-I told him Im not answering any of your questions-please leave my property-he left and went next door-I had the window open and overheard him asking the same questions-I strongly suspect the whole voting register thing is just an excuse to asked questions- this is being done as an Intel gathering exercise by the council gathering further info for next years property tax.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8vm51sR4tRY


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    #5813
    tayto lover
    Registered Users Posts: 51,652 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Would the Councils be so underhand as to send out people to get information on house owners for them? I have a habit of sending out my daughter to the door to say there is nobody in and to not answer any questions from any caller.


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    #5814
    bgrizzley
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭bgrizzley


    700k people laughing at him, phil is under pressure, he could be putting the squeeze on the councils ( over the phone from Portugal)


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    #5815
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Ghandee wrote: »
    Dunno Donal.

    Not many shills have attempted to deny it as of yet.


    So what percentage do you think it will be?


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    #5816
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    So what percentage do you think it will be?

    What percentage of shills?

    98%

    DV and Ali seem to have given up.


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    #5817
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Ghandee wrote: »
    What percentage of shills?

    98%

    DV and Ali seem to have given up.



    What percentage do you think will have to pay €1,000?


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    #5818
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    What percentage do you think will have to pay €1,000?

    How can I possibly answer that?

    All we have been told is what to expect as an average price, no percentages were mentioned.


    If a group of people ate in a restaurant, and on average they spent 13€ each, what percentage paid the €13?

    Without the rest of the statistics, its pretty hard (impossible) to give a percentage.


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    #5819
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Ghandee wrote: »
    How can I possibly answer that?

    All we have been told is what to expect as an average price, no percentages were mentioned.


    If a group of people ate in a restaurant, and on average they spent 13€ each, what percentage paid the €13?

    Without the rest of the statistics, its pretty hard (impossible) to give a percentage.


    I thought you'd be able to use your expertise in the area and give a prediction, obviously not though.


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    #5820
    Ghandee
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,653 ✭✭✭Ghandee


    Chucky the tree wrote: »
    I thought you'd be able to use your expertise in the area and give a prediction, obviously not though.

    LOL.....

    My expertise?

    You were the guy disputed what the term 'average' meant.

    Would you like me to embarass you further with your 'definition of average'?

    Not tonight either Chucky. ;)


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    #5821
    Chucky the tree
    Closed Accounts Posts: 19,341 ✭✭✭✭Chucky the tree


    Ghandee wrote: »
    LOL.....

    My expertise?

    You were the guy disputed what the term 'average' meant.

    Would you like me to embarass you further with your 'definition of average'?

    Not tonight either Chucky. ;)


    I did dispute it, it is misleading. So misleading even you have no clue what most people will actually be playing. At least it's good to see you admit defeat. ;)


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