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22-11-2009, 17:04   #1
 
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Dublin Canals Cycle Route

The first stage of a proposed Dublin Canals Cycle Route is currently at public consultation stage. Documents can be viewed and comments made by following the link below and entering planning reference 4148/09.

http://www.dublincity.ie/Planning/PlanningSearch/Pages/PlanningSearch.aspx

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22-11-2009, 18:23   #2
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Great to see a public representative posting on here!

I had a small problem though, searching for that number doesn't return any results? Any idea what the problem is!
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I was goping to make a comment through the DCC website but it costs €20 so thought i'd make it here,
There is new parking proposed on the south side of Wiltton Terrace (just after leeson street bridge), its not very sensible to put parking right next to the new cycle lane with doors opening into the path of cyclists and passengers in the cycle lane...
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The first stage of a proposed Dublin Canals Cycle Route is currently at public consultation stage. Documents can be viewed and comments made by following the link below and entering planning reference 4148/09.

http://www.dublincity.ie/Planning/PlanningSearch/Pages/PlanningSearch.aspx

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When's the due date for submissions? I'm pretty busy at the moment to read through all the documents but will have the time around Christmas to do so, if that's not too late.



EDIT: Ah right found it;

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A submission or observation in relation to the proposed development, dealing with the proper planning and sustainable development of the area may be made in writing to the Executive Manager, Planning Department, Dublin City Council, Block 4, Floor 3, Civic Offices, Wood Quay, Dublin 8 before 16.30hrs on 18th December 2009.

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Great to see a public representative posting on here!

I had a small problem though, searching for that number doesn't return any results? Any idea what the problem is!
Try one of the other search fields - the layout came up a bit oddly for me in Firefox but I got it to work that way.

And +1 on DCC posting here.
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Here's the planning application for anyone ahaving difficulty with the DC site.

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Planning and Development Act 2000 Planning and Development Regulations 2001-2007 (Part 8 Procedure) Display of proposed development for public comment.

Proposed premium cycle route - Grand Canal Cycle Route and Sutton to Sandycove Docklands Route Pursuant to the requirements of the above, notice is hereby given of the proposed construction by Dublin City Council of the above scheme. The proposed works will comprise of the following:

1. The construction of 2,040 metres of contra flow cycle way adjacent to the Grand Canal from Portobello to Grand Canal Street Lower.

2. The construction of 405 metres of cycleway from Grand Canal Street Lower to Pearse Street.

3. The construction of 409 metres of cycle way from Hanover Quay to the southside of the Samuel Beckett Bridge.

4. The construction of 1,156 metres of contra flow cycle way adjacent to the Royal Canal from Samuel Beckett Bridge to Ossory Road.

5. The construction of a single span pedestrian/cycle bridge (span 58 metres) directly adjacent to the existing Iarnrod Eireann Bridge at Ossory Road.

6. The construction of 580 metres of cycleway from West Road to East Wall Road.

7. The construction of an 87 metre long cycle boardwalk on western approach to Leeson Street Bridge.

8. The provision of toucan (pedestrian and cycle) crossings at the following locations: (a) Junction of Richmond Street South and Charlemont Mall (b) Ranelagh Road and Charlemont Bridge (c) Leeson Street Bridge (d) Baggot Street Bridge (e) Huband Bridge (f) Northumberland Road and Warrington Place (McKenny Bridge) (g) Clanwilliam Place (h) Grand Canal Street and Grand Canal Quay (i) Pearse Street and Grand Canal Quay (j) Forbes Street and Sir John Rogerson's Quay (2) (k) Sir John Rogerson's Quay and Samuel Beckett Bridge (l) North Wall Quay east of Guild Street (m) Mayor Street and Spencer Dock (n) Spencer Dock and Sheriff Street (o) Ossory Road and West Road (p) West Road and East Wall Road

9. Creation of 2 cul de sacs on Grand Canal Quay at Railway Bridge.

10. Removal of 144 metre strip of existing cobble sets on Grand Canal Quay/Clanwilliam Terrace and relocation further north on Grand Canal Quay.

11. Removal of 270 pay and display permit parking spaces at the following locations: - South Side of Charlemont Mall (40 spaces) - South Side of Wilton Terrace (100 spaces) - Herbert Place (70 spaces) - Warrington Place (24 spaces) - Clanwilliam Place (10 spaces) - Grand Canal Quay (26 spaces)

12. Provision of the appropriate directional signage and markings.

13. Minor carriageway narrowing at various locations along the scheme as shown on the scheme drawings.

14. Reconstruction of pedestrian footpaths along the scheme where required.

15. Road resurfacing will take place where required.

16. The provision of public lighting and security CCTV.

17. Provision of ducting for public lighting, CCTV, and communication cables together with associated connection and pulling chambers. An Ecological Report accompanies this application. Plans and particulars of the proposed scheme will be available for inspection during normal working hours for a period of six weeks from Friday 23rd October to Friday 4th December at: (a) Dublin City Council, Wood Quay, Dublin 8 at the Planning Counter 9.00 - 16.30hrs Monday to Friday (b) Dublin Docklands Development Authority, 52-55 Sir John Rogerson's Quay, Docklands, Dublin 2, from 09.00hrs - 17.30hrs monday to friday and 0900hrs - 1700hrs Thursday (c) Sean O'Casey Community Centre, St Mary's Road, East Wall, from 0900hrs - 2200hrs Monday to Friday (d) Rathmines Library, 157 Lower Rathmines Road, Dublin 6, from 10.00hrs - 22300hrs Monday to Thursday and 10.00hrs - 15.00hrs Friday to Saturday.

A submission or observation in relation to the proposed development, dealing with the proper planning and sustainable development of the area may be made in writing to the Executive Manager, Planning Department, Dublin City Council, Block 4, Floor 3, Civic Offices, Wood Quay, Dublin 8 before 16.30hrs on 18th December 2009.
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Wish they had a better and more detailed map of it.
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how does this tie in with this scheme?
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how does this tie in with this scheme?
It doesn't.

There will be a gap between Blackhorse and Portobello. Parts of that missing section are still cycleable, but there's no dedicated cycle infrastructure.
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This is part of a plan to develop cycle routes along Dublin's canals. We are about to start surveying the stretch from Portobello to Blackhorse to connect to the route coming in from Adamstown.

The drawings that are posted are not detailed design drawings because this project is at Part VIII planning stage. In the Part VIII process officials from the local authority present a proposal to the elected public representatives. Elected representatives then decide to reject, accept or accept with amendments the proposal. Drawings at this stage are there to allow elected representatives to make an informed decision on the merits of the project. Detailed design comes later.

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Cheers Ciarán- good to know the gap is being looked at.

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Wish they had a better and more detailed map of it.
I saw the full project on display in the Civic Offices recently, including colour drawings of the scheme laid out end-to-end. The DCC planning website usually just puts up low-resolution b&w scans of any planning documents. Drop in to the lobby of Wood Quay or - presumably - any of the other locations listed in the notice quoted above if you want to see it in the flesh.
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This plan is one of the best pieces of work underway at DCC. You should all be praised for it. I'd love to see the section inbetween the wooden brigde and the causeway in Clontarf finished as that stretch is very dangerous at the moment.

What would be the expected time for the city part to be completed, provided the objections are minimal by December 18th?
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i reckon the local authorties should make it their business to extend the cycleways the full length of the cancal istelf,

id can only imagine that it would be a great tourist attraction, imagine cycling from dublin to athlone, along the cancal, now that`d be scenic
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If this succeeds it'd be good to see something similar done with the Royal Canal. It could connect into the other route near Ossory Road, and maybe have a link into the Park around Ashtown. At present some sections are ok, others (Castleknock-Clonsilla) are dangerous. It could provide a nice route out as far as Maynooth at least.
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Thanks for posting this. Have not seen the maps, so may be nothing but ..

2. The construction of 405 metres of cycleway from Grand Canal Street Lower to Pearse Street.

9. Creation of 2 cul de sacs on Grand Canal Quay at Railway Bridge.


Bit unclear as to the two above points ??
Is this a "motorist" cul de sac, or are you making the street impassable to everyone. How is Lower Grand Canal St, connected to Pearse St ??

If the cycle lane did not go down Grand Canal quay, it would be pretty stupid.

Wont miss the cobbles myself (but suspect some will),
Otherwise, the sooner its done the better.
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