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Lucid Dreaming Guide - Introduction

  • 25-09-2006 9:02am
    #1
    Goodshape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭


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    October 10th 2006 :: this thread stickified and link added to 'Improving Dream Memory' thread (effectively the first step towards achieving lucidity in dreams)
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    The subject of Lucid Dreaming has come up again and again on this forum, with various people having various degrees of success.

    Personally I believe that everyone is capable of having a lucid dream and there are numerous methods and techniques that can be used to help. One of the most important methods, I think, is to keep the idea fresh in your mind – by thinking, reading, and talking about it during the day.. like, say, on an Internet forum or something.

    So, for that reason, I'm going to start (and try to maintain) a weekly 'Lucid Dreaming Guide'.

    We'll see how it goes, but I think there's about three entry's worth of 'Guide' material for lucid dreaming, so it'll be ::

    1 - Improving Dream Memory
    2 - Achieving Lucidity
    3 – Being Lucid

    (although 'Achieving Lucidity' might be split into two weeks/entries)

    Obviously I want to take advantage of the inclusive nature of Boards and get everyone chatting about this each week – discussing the methods, whether they've worked, making suggestions, dream reports, etc. The best way, in my mind, of keeping it on your mind.

    So anyone up for taking the challenge? Any suggestions, questions, comments?

    The discussion starts now :)

    (I guess this introduction should actually count as the first week, so we can gauge interest, answer any general questions, etc. I'll post about 'Improving Dream Memory' next weekend.)

    Wikipedia's entry on Lucid Dreaming :
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucid_dreaming


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  • #2
    Asiaprod
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,737 ✭✭✭Asiaprod


    Goodshape wrote:
    So anyone up for taking the challenge? Any suggestions, questions, comments?

    I do not know much about this subject, but will enjoy learning. I noticed the Wikipedia reference to the Tibetan Buddhists practising a form of yoga supposed to maintain full waking consciousness while in the dream state. That interests me greatly. Could one also describe meditation as a form of Lucid dreaming. Any info on it?


  • #3
    Goodshape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Asiaprod wrote:
    Could one also describe meditation as a form of Lucid dreaming.
    Or lucid dreaming as a form of meditation.

    Slight disclaimer before I go on : I'm planning this as much as a learning exercise for myself as anyone else, so I'm no expert on the subject. I've managed to have some lucid dreams by using the techniques that I plan to write about and I'm fairly convinced that it shouldn't be too difficult for most people. As for going into the meanings and spiritual, psychological or paranormal aspects of lucid dreaming - it's perfectly open to discussion, but keep in mind that there are no experts here, and you don't have to subscribe to any of it.


    Now that that's out of the way.. I've read that the imagery and situations we dream about at night are the result of the sub-conscious being unrestrained by the (now sleeping) waking mind. We no longer have the reality of the 'mundane' day to concentrate on and so we are often confronted with our deepest desires and fears.

    What lucidity brings to the table is the ability to look at these desires - and possibly face those fears - with a rational, lucid, point of view. You can conquer your demons in your sleep.

    Or, most importantly I think, you could just go flying :).

    I think lucid dreaming does indeed have something to bring to the 'meditation table'.


  • #4
    kshiel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    Has anyone achieved this yet? I know I have had dreams where I know I was dreaming but had no control over any part of the dream.

    Would be interesting to here how other people have tried and succeded or failed?


  • #5
    Goodshape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Almost forgot about this post actually (wasn't exactly much of a show of interest). I'll try and get the next part of the 'guide' up after the weekend.

    And yea, I've had a few lucid (and in control) dreams. It's definitely worth the small amount of effort necessary.


  • #6
    kshiel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    I would love to know how to do it properly. Haven't read completly the links posted up, must do that first before asking silly questions.

    What kinda dreams did you have and did you have complete control over what happened next or did you have control over the dream from start to finish?


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  • #7
    Goodshape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    The dreams started out as normal, albeit very vivid, until some event or something I saw made me realise I was dreaming. This has happened more times than I've had lucid dreams but usually I get too excited and wake myself up as a result.

    A few times I've managed to make the realisation without waking up. The first time this happened it was like what you described, I knew it was a dream but couldn't take control. As if I was a passive observer behind my own eyes. Quite interesting actually.

    A few times since then I've been able to take control of myself and go somewhere or do something interesting. Flying always seems to be the first thing I do :)

    I've never been able to manipulate the world around me, or even have full and total control over myself, but I've read that it is possible.

    I did manage to fly away from an unpleasant dream in Dublin to a more interesting one in Donegal, but didn't make the connection at the time that I could have just as easily magiced myself away to anywhere or any scenario imaginable.


  • #8
    kshiel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    Must start looking into this more, its got my interest thats for sure. Keep us posted on any good tips you've discovered or technique that seem to work best.


  • #9
    Zillah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    I tried this a while ago, worked in the end, then I got distracted and stopped at it.

    The way to lucid dream is to convince your subconcious to do it. Its that simple. So, first of all, you must teach your subconcious that dreams are important. I did this by keeping a regular journal. Thats it. Some people manage to lucid dream from doing just that for a month or so.

    The most interesting part for me was what is called the "reality test". Essentially it works on the principle that things such as physics don't work consistently in dreams.

    The way it works is as follows. First of all choose your test. What worked well for me was to read something, then turn it around, and then read it again. If you do this in a dream the text will be different, it will say something else. When that happens, bam! You know you're in a dream and lucidity kicks in. I know it sounds crazy but it works.

    But, I hear you say, "But how can I remember to do the test if I'm not already lucid?" Good question. You must get into the habit of doing them during your day. So, lets say you're in work. Take ten seconds to read the text on a postit or something. Once you've been doing that for a few days/weeks you'll be in the habit of it, and you'll automatically do it in a dream.

    As I'm writing this I feel like some charlatan teaching people nonesense, but I promise this worked for me. I originally read about it online somewhere.

    So, uh, enjoy!

    EDIT:

    As for my personal experiences, I have three. The first was completely spontaneous. I was dreaming about running down a road and suddenly it went lucid, I knew I was asleep and dreaming. So I started leaping really far and went into some trees. I had a vague image of falling slowing through dark branches and then I woke up.

    The second time was by far the weirdest. I did the reality test on a key ring and *pop*, lucid. But then the dream faded away. My brain stopped generating dream sensations and I was just awake inside my sleeping brain...very odd experience.

    I actually can't remember the 3rd, I think it had something to do with a sword fight... ;)


  • #10
    abetarrush
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,221 ✭✭✭abetarrush


    Durin my last sleep paralysis I had abt 12 secs of lucid dreaming

    I needed to hide, so chose to hide at a bin, and did

    but this was because I was awake and asleep at the same time


  • #11
    kshiel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    Here's an interesting artical on lucid dreaming, quite long though sorry.

    http://lucidity.com/NL52.LightandMirror.html


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  • #12
    Feral Mutant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Feral Mutant


    Zillah wrote:
    The most interesting part for me was what is called the "reality test". Essentially it works on the principle that things such as physics don't work consistently in dreams.
    A while ago I tried to get into the habit of looking at my nose by closing an eye whenever I enter a room. Apparently (by apparently I mean from what I've heard, I haven't done this in a dream), if you do this in a dream you can't see your nose. But then I forgot and stopped doing it. I picked that cos it seemed like the easiest and most practical (not likely to attract attention in public).


  • #13
    kshiel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    The remembering the dreams during the night is going well at the moment and I have been mentally saying to myself before going to sleep what type of dream i want to have, works sometimes, sometimes not. I have started to do more of the reality test but this seems to be bit more tricky and I think I need a little more work on that area. How is everyone else getting on, or has anyone else been trying this?


  • #14
    riddik
    Registered Users Posts: 362 ✭✭riddik


    wow this is ridiculously interesting. i just found about all this lucid dream induction stuff now by accidentally clicking on this forum. i just downloaded some strange mp3 that ur supposed to loop for a few hours at night, gonna try it tonight


  • #15
    Goodshape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    kshiel - yea, I've been getting back into this, making a point of remembering dreams for the past week or so and I've been having some really vivid and strange ones too. I really must start writing them down when I wake up though.

    Think I'm going to try the 'message on a piece of paper' reality test (reading something back at regular intervals during the day.. turning it around and reading it again). Although last time I managed to work up to a lucid dream I didn't require any reality test, simply improving my recall (by writing down my dreams) made it possible for me to pick out common dream occurrences while they were going on, which allowed my brain to say "ah! this must be a dream".


    btw -- unfortunately, I think this is one of those things that isn't helped by really really wanting it. It's your subconscious that controls your dreams, so you could go around all day hoping and praying and wanting for it, but unless you train your subconscious then it's all for nothing.

    The reality tests, for example, have to become routine before they will work. You have to be reading that piece of paper or trying to change the light levels almost without thinking. And don't "want" it too much, just sort of accept that it's possible and going to happen because, obviously, you can do anything in a dream. Obviously.

    Good luck :), and report back with any success.


  • #16
    littlebug
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,832 ✭✭✭littlebug


    A few weeks ago, I awoke to what I presumed was sleep paralysis. I couldn't move a muscle . Suddenly the air around the room started swirling in vortices that I could see and there was a whooshing air sound. I'd experienced sleep paralysis before but not dreamlike ehallucinations so it was quite scary but I was strangely calm and kept saying to myself... "this is just sleep paraylsis it will be over in a minute... now if I could only move my arm enough to tuen on the lamp it would be ok". I kept trying to move though my limbs felt like lead but I eventually managed to drag one arm vey slowly out of the bed.. all the while the swirly air thing was still going on. I managed to get to the lamp switch but it wouldn't work so my next plan was to get out of bed and get to the door because once I got to some light it would all be ok and the hallucinations would go. Still leadlike I managed to drag my body and slowly trudge towards the door. This took ages and there was still scary air which now had faces in it. When I reached the door I raised my leaden arm to move the curtain away from the door....:confused: ??? curtain... why was there a curtain covering the door? Then I realised it was all a dream. Then I woke up.

    What do you think? Sort of lucid?
    I do find this fascinating I have to say. I must make a point of practising the reality checks.

    P


  • #17
    Feral Mutant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 950 ✭✭✭Feral Mutant


    Satrday mornings I have literally nothing I have to do, so I sleep in as long as possible. This morning I vaguely remember looking at the clock then I falling asleep. I can't really remember details but somehow I got to the point of thinking "This is a dream". After that I tried the nose reality check I mentioned in a previous post and it worked. Instead of seeing my nose, I saw a blurry line at the very corner of my eye. I started thinking "this is a dream" and I heard some weird rumbling, head kinda spinning. I was worried I "broke the dream". Didn't get to do anything before I woke up though. I also remember reading something on my computer, scrolling down then scrolling back up. It was still about the same stuff (can't remember what that stuff was) but the sentence was completely different. My dream recall has been pretty crap. I've been trying to write them down but since I've had to start getting up early for classes I haven't had time, the last one I wrote down was on the first of october. So, I haven't remembered my dreams too well. Not sure really when the computer reading bit happened in relation to the nose seeing.
    It's also possible that after reading this thread yesterday (then going onto ld4all for the first time in a while) I just had a dream about reality checks.
    Still, progress.


  • #18
    kshiel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 994 ✭✭✭kshiel


    Had a dream last night, loads of things going on in it, and as usual this one person was in it, because of this person in it I realised I was dreaming. I didn't do the reality test but I remember seeing this figure (as can never see his face) and deciding that I have to find out who this person is, so I wiped out everything else in my dream and stood face to hood to this guy, it was really quite weird but very cool, something like the matrix style when I approched him, sliding not walking if you get what I mean, it felt quite powerful. Everything else was gone in the dream except me and this guy but when I told him to pull down the hood I woke up, I am guessing I got too excited about the prospect of taking control, but I am hoping this is a start to a real lucid dream.


  • #19
    [Deleted User]
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    I've been a lucid dreamer for about 9 or 10 years now. I can make anything else happen in a dream but give myself the ability to fly. In fairness, I've only tried flying a few times. It never works, though. Is it in response to a fear or something? I love flying in airplanes and I find the sky intriguing so it's not an aversion to be in the sky... Anyone know anything about how to get yourself flying in dreams?


  • #20
    Zillah
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,371 ✭✭✭✭Zillah


    Cabria wrote:
    Anyone know anything about how to get yourself flying in dreams?

    In my experience its the first thing I do if I get control. I just start jumping and I can jump really high and far. Other times I've just started flying. One time I took as bow (as in bow and arrow) and put it across my back and it turned into a pair of angel style wings and I flew around my neighbourhood. That one was especially cool.


  • #21
    Goodshape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Welcome to the forum Cabria :)

    I'd be the same as Zillah, it's usually the first thing I do and usually without much thought or attention.

    Similar to the bow: in my first lucid dream (which was only about a year ago) after I started to fly I reached into my pocket, took out a piece of cloth which became a cape and fastened it around my neck like superman :D Good fun.


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  • #22
    browler
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭browler


    kshiel wrote:
    Has anyone achieved this yet? I know I have had dreams where I know I was dreaming but had no control over any part of the dream.

    Would be interesting to here how other people have tried and succeded or failed?

    Had a small bit of success lucid dreams of late after trying for ages.During the first one I had I realised I was dreaming I woke myself up !. The next one I had I've realised I was was dreaming but was unable to do anything.The very last one I've had I became aware but was only able to go places within the context of my dream at will i.e I was at home but only able to go different rooms in the house. The only bit of dream recall I have been doing was replaying my dreams in my head the next day I havent been bothered to write down the details but might start now.(tomorrow morning even :) )


  • #23
    Chavster
    Closed Accounts Posts: 145 ✭✭Chavster


    I used to be really good at controlling my dreams when i was younger. I still can do it sometimes but not so often. It always begins with an awareness of whats going on as a dream and then basic statement 'This is my dream and i can do what i want'. Then i can, which is always a laugh..


  • #24
    DeVore
    Business & Finance Moderators, Entertainment Moderators Posts: 32,387 Mod ✭✭✭✭DeVore


    I find this happens (involuntaraily) to me just before going into a deep sleep or when I'm waking up from one and snoozing. I like to snooze, a lot. :)
    I havent *tried* to control them much but I do amuse myself regularly by pushing them in one direction or other. I cant recall every flying in one though. They seem like very intense daydreams (which I do a lot too!). Quite Walter Mitty-esque.

    DeV.


  • #25
    Goodshape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    I find snoozing (rather than full-on sleeping) is great for dreams alright.. whether it's just before sleep or just after you wake up and decide to give yourself an extra hour.

    Must see about writing a bit more of this 'guide' anyway.. sort of let that slip to say the least. Though I've been having some interesting dreams lately, so I'll have a think about it.


  • #26
    bluto63
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,228 ✭✭✭bluto63


    Hey can you tell me if this is in the right direction of Lucid dreaming?

    I was dreaming the other night about my CAO form and looking through it there seemed to be about 10 times as much to fill out as I thought. Then I thought to myself "oh God, this better be a f**king dream" and then I woke up.

    Anything on the way to Lucid dreaming?


  • #27
    Sir Digby Chicken Caesar
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 23,556 ✭✭✭✭Sir Digby Chicken Caesar


    i've had a few lucid dreams in the past couple of months.. I never bring myself out of the normal dream though, and there's nothing I can remember that jumps out at me and reminds me I'm dreaming. The first time this happened to me, I was dreaming I was walking home from dublin to carlow.. suddenly the world felt very very strange so I pointed at a car and thought *flip over* and the car flipped over very very slowly, and everything else just continued as normal. so I had a fair idea then that I was dreaming, either that or I was God.

    So now whenever I'm dreaming and I get the idea that things aren't quite right, I point at something and think *levitate* or somesuch, and if it does I'm pretty confident I'm lucid dreaming. Problem is I can never get it to last.. only a few minutes each time so far and then I wake up. But it's a good start I hope, gona start the dream journal one of these days.

    does anyone else notice that lucid dreaming feels kind of.. sluggish? touch, sounds and sights are all kind of muted for me.. more so than regular dreams. And I have to keep control of my thoughts so I don't think "this is a dream" too often as I'll just wake up then. Just require a bit more mental discipline? or will thise resolve itself with time and a few more lucid dreams.


  • #28
    Goodshape
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,488 ✭✭✭Goodshape


    Mordeth wrote:
    if it does I'm pretty confident I'm lucid dreaming. Problem is I can never get it to last.. only a few minutes each time so far and then I wake up. But it's a good start I hope

    Sounds like it. Haven't had a lucid dream (that I've remembered) in ages but often the realisation causes me to wake up alright.. almost as if it's the final check -- like I'm waking up just to see if I really was dreaming. Bit of a catch 22. I think as you become more used to it you'll have more confidence to say to yourself "yes, I am dreaming - and no, I don't need to wake up to prove it".
    does anyone else notice that lucid dreaming feels kind of.. sluggish? touch, sounds and sights are all kind of muted for me.. more so than regular dreams.
    I've noticed the sluggishness, maybe now that you've mentioned it, but the sights and sounds are usually very heightened for me in lucid dreams compared to normal ones.
    And I have to keep control of my thoughts so I don't think "this is a dream" too often as I'll just wake up then. Just require a bit more mental discipline? or will thise resolve itself with time and a few more lucid dreams.
    I'm not sure it's a 'discipline', but more time and experience, sure.


  • #29
    cinnamon
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭cinnamon


    please tell me if this is a lucid dream...

    I have had several very realistic dreams of sex, where i feel someone behind me holding me, etc etc.... and i wake up and go back to sleep and the sex is still happening. Obviously it's quite a nice 'dream' but sometimes it freaks me out, because I think it could be a 'spirit' or something. so I make myself wake up and it it keeps happening i will try and keep awake until it stops.

    I really dont mind having these dreams but if there is anything paranormal happening i would be a bit concerned


  • #30
    [Deleted User]
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    I just bought the book by Stephen leBerge today so Ill try and keep u guys posted as to how I get on with it. Im your new guinea pig!!! Hope this works!!


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  • #31
    TheMilkyPirate
    Registered Users Posts: 6,017 ✭✭✭TheMilkyPirate


    Can you like.. Have sex in lucid dreams with anybody you wish? ha i sound like a perv..!


  • #32
    lil_lisa
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,829 ✭✭✭lil_lisa


    Im looking everywhere for his book (apart from online) where did you get it?


  • #33
    Rhiannon14
    Closed Accounts Posts: 183 ✭✭Rhiannon14


    I've been able to lucid dream from a young age. I never tried to, but I would just enter a dream and know I was dreaming. I was only able to control certain aspects of the dream, namely my own actions. Anyone else in the dream acted of its own accord. Over time (in college) I stopped dreaming completely and eventually came to realise it was because of smoking weed. I have stopped completely and am only now (after months) able to begin dreaming again. Hopefully lucidity isn't far off. Just thought this might help explain why some people might not be able to do it. Thoughts?


  • #34
    accensi0n
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,805 ✭✭✭accensi0n


    The most memorable dream I've had where I thought I was dreaming I decided I had to wake myself up.

    So I went half way up a building and jumped out of the window. Suprisingly enough I hit the ground, didn't wake up and remained in the dream. Then it clicked that for some reason I had to go to the top of the building and jump off so off I went. Jumped from the top of the building and just as I hit the ground I woke up.

    Felt great when I woke up.


  • #35
    AngryHippie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,625 ✭✭✭AngryHippie


    have had a few, the one that I remember was really cool, i was in my front garden, and I jumped, with my hands by my sides, I kept going up, until I put my hands out to the sides, It was really awesome that I had a control over it. It didn't last long as I woke up after a brief flight. Sometimes I wake up when falling having a spaz trying to put a foot out to land. Haven't had one recently that I remember. but Heres hoping. Anyone got any ideas as to why I remember some really well and sometimes I haven't a bean ? I do have a notebook and I do write into it when I remember them


  • #36
    sweet16yiskah
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12 ✭sweet16yiskah


    Ok. i still can't really understand it.
    if i was awake right and i was imagining stuff then suddenly it became a dream. Would that be a lucid dream?
    and by the time it became a dream i can't control it and then i woke up..??


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  • #37
    Krsnik87
    Closed Accounts Posts: 292 ✭✭Krsnik87


    I used to have them quite often as a child (though 99% of them were nightmares) but eventually it just stopped.

    I was talking to a friend about it last year and he told me of a program called iDoser. It is a program that you can download that basically attempts to change the frequancy of your brainwaves to induse different states of mind.

    You stick on a set of headphones with a good frequancy range before you go to bed and it plays a tone (for about 30 mins, its long but actually quite relaxing). This is supposed to change the frequancy of your brain.

    There are different "doses" available to download from mood altering all the way through to drug effects (don't work...) but one that worked exeptionally well for me, almost too well, was the lucid dream. I used it once and for about 3 days all my dreams were lucid. To the point that I couldn't feel like I had a decent nights sleep due to feeling like I was awake inside the dream.

    I'm not sure about the science behind it, if its actually possible to induce lucid dreaming through brainwave alteration but I believe it can be used as a sort of placebo effect to get the ball rolling.

    Its worth a shot if your open minded and can allow yourself to be open to suggestion.


  • #38
    CareBear2008
    Closed Accounts Posts: 34 ✭CareBear2008


    Lucid dreams are the best thing ever. I have them almost every night.

    I live out everything I'd like to do in reality, whether that's kissing a crush, flying over the ocean or meeting celebrities.

    It's the most extraordinary feeling. I find this works, say you go to bed @12am, (midnight!), well set your alarm to 3am! Wake up at that time and say over in your mind that you're going to have a lucid dream in a matter of minutes. You'll be tired and groggy that you'll fall back to sleep and then it'll begin to happen (hopefully!) Again, do it at 6am too...of course do it on a night where you don't have to be up particularly early for work.

    Anything can happen...you are in control of EVERYTHING! It's such a POWERFUL AND INTENSE feeling! Good luck :)


  • #39
    Suaimhneach
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 4,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Suaimhneach


    I used to pick what I wanted to dream and fall asleep making it up as I went along... I dunno why I ever stopped. I used to go back to my favorite dreams too... anyone got any theories on this?


  • #40
    [Deleted User]
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    I had my first proper one last night.

    Ive had a few before where they lasted only a short time and weren't fully in my control.


    Well last nights one was awesome! I started doin 100 metre long jumps down the street I was walkin down and then walked through a wall. Then I tried out flying, but was only able to get about 5-10 metres off the ground.

    Thing is I dunno how I realised i was dreaming, it wasnt one of the usual ways, i just kinda realised it, then got excited and woke up, then went back asleep and back into it. Was able to relax the second time and get into it.


    An amazing experience. Been buzzing about it all day.

    I feel I've a lot more to come though. Im not fully in control, I kinda got into this one by accident but it was the most vivid and controlled one Ive had so far!!!


    :)


  • #41
    unreggd
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    <snip>

    [mod] no need to be suggesting supplements [/mod]


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  • #42
    Tar.Aldarion
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,104 Mod ✭✭✭✭Tar.Aldarion


    That's good moddin, boy howdy.


  • #43
    pseudonym1
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    CareBear2008 wrote: »
    Lucid dreams are the best thing ever. I have them almost every night.

    I live out everything I'd like to do in reality, whether that's kissing a crush, flying over the ocean or meeting celebrities.

    It's the most extraordinary feeling. I find this works, say you go to bed @12am, (midnight!), well set your alarm to 3am! Wake up at that time and say over in your mind that you're going to have a lucid dream in a matter of minutes. You'll be tired and groggy that you'll fall back to sleep and then it'll begin to happen (hopefully!) Again, do it at 6am too...of course do it on a night where you don't have to be up particularly early for work.

    Anything can happen...you are in control of EVERYTHING! It's such a POWERFUL AND INTENSE feeling! Good luck :)


    Ya big freak :) I do also; do you go astral travelling? Do you have any sleeping disorders - have narcolepsy thats why asking -


  • #44
    abi2007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭abi2007


    I dream like that alot during the day and night, I tought it was just normal. Sometimes when I'm really tired I have a "nap" but I don't sleep, I can hear everything going on around me yet I dream and have alot of control over what I dream. When I was younger I shared a room with my brother, we used to pretend the springs in mattress were dream videos and we'd pick what we wanted to watch... I would actually dream about that thing.


  • #45
    abi2007
    Closed Accounts Posts: 726 ✭✭✭abi2007


    accensi0n wrote: »
    The most memorable dream I've had where I thought I was dreaming I decided I had to wake myself up.

    So I went half way up a building and jumped out of the window. Suprisingly enough I hit the ground, didn't wake up and remained in the dream. Then it clicked that for some reason I had to go to the top of the building and jump off so off I went. Jumped from the top of the building and just as I hit the ground I woke up.

    Felt great when I woke up.

    If i'm falling or trip in a dream, I physically move which wakes me up. my daughter was clapping in her sleep the other night.


  • #46
    abi2007
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    Jesjes wrote: »
    I used to pick what I wanted to dream and fall asleep making it up as I went along... I dunno why I ever stopped. I used to go back to my favorite dreams too... anyone got any theories on this?

    I had favourite dreams too, I used to dream I was in star treck. I got very into and used to love going to bed to dream about it.


  • #47
    lillybegood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3 ✭lillybegood


    Has anybody here been able to use lucidity as a way improving a nightmare?

    I don't dream lucidly but I have horrendous nightmares which these days often seem to end in false awakenings, where wake violently, often screaming, in bed with my fiance (who is alarmed and tries to calm me down).

    Then often elements of the nightmare start to appear in my "waking" reality - or my fiancee suddenly has no face - or there's just a bizarre and unnerving atmosphere - and I either start freaking out and wake up suddenly, or realise it was a false awakening and drag myself out of the dream.

    I have never had a good experience with a false awakening - and when I realise I'm dreaming I usually have no control over the dream other than to try and force myself to wake up.

    Then when I wake up I'm in bed and my fiance is asleep beside me, completely unaware of the whole thing (sometimes I have to ask him if any of it happened because my perception of reality and dreaming are so confused).

    I've also had experiences with sleep paralysis and what feel like physical attacks durings paralysis, from which i proceed into a false awakening.

    It's all very unpleasant.

    Most people describe lucid dreaming in such pleasant terms and seem to be in control. I'm wondering if it could be a way of dealing with my sleep problems.. but at the moment most of my dreams are either unnerving or just plain horrific, so the idea of encouraging dreaming to any degree is scary.

    Has anyone used lucid dreaming as a way out to combat nightmares or false awakenings?


  • #48
    Dime101
    Closed Accounts Posts: 104 ✭✭Dime101


    Ive been consistently dreaming for about 3 weeks now,I can pretty much recall all of them and have them written down.I read them before sleeping and am starting to recognise a pattern.

    What do you guys suggest I do next to get the lucidity going?

    I dont know if the mirror reality check will work because I looked in the mirror in my dream lastnight and my head was completly split open(I could see my brains etc and I was poking them and stuff)and it didnt seem weird.

    I never seem to think of doing a reality check in my dreams either.I just go with the flow.I also rarely ask myself if im dreaming and when I do I usually realise get too excited and wake up.

    PLEASE HELP I WANT TO TAKE CONTROL AND DO COOL STUFF!


  • #49
    Overblood
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,359 ✭✭✭Overblood


    Dime101 wrote: »
    Ive been consistently dreaming for about 3 weeks now,I can pretty much recall all of them and have them written down.I read them before sleeping and am starting to recognise a pattern.

    What do you guys suggest I do next to get the lucidity going?

    I dont know if the mirror reality check will work because I looked in the mirror in my dream lastnight and my head was completly split open(I could see my brains etc and I was poking them and stuff)and it didnt seem weird.

    I never seem to think of doing a reality check in my dreams either.I just go with the flow.I also rarely ask myself if im dreaming and when I do I usually realise get too excited and wake up.

    PLEASE HELP I WANT TO TAKE CONTROL AND DO COOL STUFF!

    This thread seems to be fairly dead so check out these forums:

    www.ld4all.com/forum/

    www.dreamviews.com


  • #50
    Suaimhneach
    Moderators, Education Moderators, Music Moderators Posts: 4,436 Mod ✭✭✭✭Suaimhneach


    Dime101 wrote: »
    Ive been consistently dreaming for about 3 weeks now,I can pretty much recall all of them and have them written down.I read them before sleeping and am starting to recognise a pattern.

    What do you guys suggest I do next to get the lucidity going?

    I dont know if the mirror reality check will work because I looked in the mirror in my dream lastnight and my head was completly split open(I could see my brains etc and I was poking them and stuff)and it didnt seem weird.

    I never seem to think of doing a reality check in my dreams either.I just go with the flow.I also rarely ask myself if im dreaming and when I do I usually realise get too excited and wake up.

    PLEASE HELP I WANT TO TAKE CONTROL AND DO COOL STUFF!
    There are loads of books in this area. I recommend Robert Moss.


  • #51
    IrelandSpirit
    Registered Users Posts: 831 ✭✭✭IrelandSpirit


    Hi Lillybegood, I empathise with your situation, i've been there too.

    The only way from (my experience) to positively influence a nightmare is to become proficient at lucid dreaming, and the symptoms you describe are the preliminary stages to achieving this lucidity. Sounds like a chicken and egg paradox, and it's different for everyone, but very often there's personal fear barrier when 'waking up' within dreams which needs to be overcome before you can take full control.

    Remember that whatever happens in this stage of your dreaming life is all you - claim it as yours however frightening or disturbing.

    Give yourself the command each night that you will awake fully within your dream. Be patient. It will happen eventually and you'll be able to change your local as easily as switching channels on a TV.

    Good luck, and sweet dreams!


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