Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

BandMember · 11-02-2019 6:26pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

I remember these from mid 90's(I think). Wasn't really a case of them being dropped moreso that there was zero interest from players and clubs in them. I know of players who wouldn't go forward as they wouldn't play with lads from the rival next door. Such rubbish.

Yeah, they tried to have 4 Divisional sides back in the mid to late 1990's but, as you rightly said, there was no interest in them from either the players or the clubs. It's a shame as there are some excellent players in Junior football who are clearly playing way below their level and it would be a great chance for them to play Senior Football and test themselves at that level without having to transfer clubs. I'd also argue that there were (going back years) and still are a number of them who should have got a shot at County level. The likes of Kerry never has any problem with playing lads from Junior clubs but for some reason, Mayo has always had a snobbery about picking from the Senior clubs. I don't know why. Must be all those All-Ireland's we're winning every year at all levels..... :rolleyes:

PARlance · 11-02-2019 7:07pm

BandMember wrote: »

Yeah, they tried to have 4 Divisional sides back in the mid to late 1990's but, as you rightly said, there was no interest in them from either the players or the clubs. It's a shame as there are some excellent players in Junior football who are clearly playing way below their level and it would be a great chance for them to play Senior Football and test themselves at that level without having to transfer clubs. I'd also argue that there were (going back years) and still are a number of them who should have got a shot at County level. The likes of Kerry never has any problem with playing lads from Junior clubs but for some reason, Mayo has always had a snobbery about picking from the Senior clubs. I don't know why. Must be all those All-Ireland's we're winning every year at all levels..... :rolleyes:

Big lost chance, from that other thread I mentioned... 10 of the 15 starters for Kerry vs Dublin were Intermediate (7) & Junior (3).
*Granted they only have 8 Senior clubs as a result of the divisional sides.

wirelessdude01 · 11-02-2019 7:09pm

PARlance wrote:

Big lost chance, from that other thread I mentioned... 10 of the 15 starters for Kerry vs Dublin were Intermediate & Junior.

They all play senior though on a regular basis through the divisional sides. Our lads really don't have the exposure. Of our side last year, Zippy, Barrett, Donohue and Doc are intermediate. Am I missing anyone?

PARlance · 11-02-2019 7:15pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

I remember these from mid 90's(I think). Wasn't really a case of them being dropped moreso that there was zero interest from players and clubs in them. I know of players who wouldn't go forward as they wouldn't play with lads from the rival next door. Such rubbish.

I asked someone who would know, even more recent than that. West Mayo had a team in the 2010 Championship. Only divisional team and had one in 09 too I think.

All 4 were around 2000-2004 and apparently West Mayo should have beaten Crossmolina en route to their All Ireland in 2000.

PARlance · 11-02-2019 7:16pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

They all play senior though on a regular basis through the divisional sides. Our lads really don't have the exposure. Of our side last year, Zippy, Barrett, Donohue and Doc are intermediate. Am I missing anyone?

That was the point, giving lads from Junior/Intermediate clubs the chance to play Senior should be of benefit to the County team. Kerry have certainly been doing it right.

Vaughan up until his transfer.

wirelessdude01 · 11-02-2019 7:38pm

PARlance wrote:

Vaughan up until his transfer.

He rarely played with Ballinrobe anyway.

RedDevil55 · 11-02-2019 8:10pm

I wouldn't be a fan of using the Kerry system. They have to play their intermediate and junior county finals in April or May. Which means for the majority of club players in those championships, the main part of their football season is over before summer. You can hardly blame club players for not wanting that.

We have had a big spread of clubs represented by the county over the last few years. If we only had 8 senior clubs like Kerry then a lot of our panel would be playing intermediate club football and Keith Higgins would probably be playing junior.

Besides, Cork also use divisional sides in their football championships and it's not doing them any good.

BandMember · 11-02-2019 8:16pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

They all play senior though on a regular basis through the divisional sides. Our lads really don't have the exposure. Of our side last year, Zippy, Barrett, Donohue and Doc are intermediate. Am I missing anyone?

I think you're missing the point - that's exactly what we're saying: no Divisional sides is hindering potential players from Junior clubs through a lack of exposure. How many gems have been overlooked at both underage and Senior level down the years just because they were from the wrong parish while lads of lesser talent from Senior clubs got on ahead of them? It's still rife at underage to the present day. Yet people why we don't win many All-Ireland's....

padd b1975 · 12-02-2019 2:39pm

John Morrison (2006) RIP.

mayo.mick · 12-02-2019 3:23pm

https://twitter.com/D9BMayo/status/1095307362007769089

https://twitter.com/MickFoley76/status/1095307958811062272

https://twitter.com/JohnFogartyIrl/status/1095320877317656577

km79 · 12-02-2019 7:01pm

I can tell you for a fact the 2006 panel were very happy under Moran and Morrison and did not want a change of management but the county board had other ideas.
It was a great summer up until the final with a lot of great memories and iconic moments!
May he Rest in Peace

seligehgit · 12-02-2019 8:23pm

km79 wrote: »

I can tell you for a fact the 2006 panel were very happy under Moran and Morrison and did not want a change of management but the county board had other ideas.
It was a great summer up until the final with a lot of great memories and iconic moments!
May he Rest in Peace

Our great and most unexpected of victory's against Dublin will be forever remembered for the Mayo team's decision to head down to the hill.

The image of Pillar Caffrey famous shoulder from behind on John Morrison will remain forever etched in my memory.

May he rest in peace.

muddle84 · 12-02-2019 8:30pm

seligehgit wrote: »

km79 wrote: »

I can tell you for a fact the 2006 panel were very happy under Moran and Morrison and did not want a change of management but the county board had other ideas.
It was a great summer up until the final with a lot of great memories and iconic moments!
May he Rest in Peace

Our great and most unexpected of victory's against Dublin will be forever remembered for the Mayo team's decision to head down to the hill.

The image of Pillar Caffrey famous shoulder from behind on John Morrison will remain forever etched in my memory.

May he rest in peace.

That was a fantastic day even though I had to watch it from the Irish centre in Leeds! An unforgettable game and year.

RIP

finisklin · 13-02-2019 5:22pm

I was in the canal end. Incredible atmosphere that was better than a final.

The quality of scores from Mort and McDonald was somaghong else. Plus good game management at end to run down clock.

Morrison will be missed. A deep thinker that related to players. The game will be weaker without him for sure.

seligehgit · 13-02-2019 10:56pm

The night before the big championship opener all roads lead to Rosie O Grady's 800 7th Avenue New York 7 PM to Midnight.

Admission 50 dollars at the door.

Guest appearances and talk by current team management.

Former players will be in attendance.

All funds going to the Mayo GAA training centre,Mayo Roscommon hospice and the Mayo New York GAA club.

irishgeo · 13-02-2019 10:59pm

seligehgit wrote: »

The night before the big championship opener all roads lead to Rosie O Grady's 800 7th Avenue New York 7 PM to Midnight.

Admission 50 dollars at the door.

Guest appearances and talk by current team management.

Former players will be in attendance.

All funds going to the Mayo GAA training centre,Mayo Roscommon hospice and the Mayo New York GAA club.

Lets hope all the money makes it home this time.

wirelessdude01 · 13-02-2019 11:01pm

irishgeo wrote:

Lets hope all the money makes it home this time.

Wasn't there huge rumours of missing money from the last trip?

seligehgit · 13-02-2019 11:15pm

irishgeo wrote: »

Lets hope all the money makes it home this time.

Indeed twas a bit of Father Ted moment. Can't recall the exact details of the controversy.

Anyway here are details re the hosts/organisers.

Mayo GAA International Supporters Foundation

www.mayogaafoundation.org

km79 · 13-02-2019 11:33pm

wirelessdude01 wrote: »

irishgeo wrote:

Lets hope all the money makes it home this time.

Wasn't there huge rumours of missing money from the last trip?

Nah it was all found in Galway accounts

ProudDUB · 14-02-2019 8:51am

seligehgit wrote: »

The night before the big championship opener all roads lead to Rosie O Grady's 800 7th Avenue New York 7 PM to Midnight.

Admission 50 dollars at the door.

Guest appearances and talk by current team management.

Former players will be in attendance.

All funds going to the Mayo GAA training centre,Mayo Roscommon hospice and the Mayo New York GAA club.

Which fundraiser is this now....is it the one the players are boycotting, the one they are going to, the one Horan won't let them go to, or the one they are organizing themselves? And who is going to be in charge of the biscuit tin on the night? Or does everyone have a go at holding it? That seems fairer. And most importantly of all, what kind of biscuits are they....USA?

Bunny Colvin · 14-02-2019 2:34pm

seligehgit wrote: »

The night before the big championship opener all roads lead to Rosie O Grady's 800 7th Avenue New York 7 PM to Midnight.

Admission 50 dollars at the door.

Guest appearances and talk by current team management.

Former players will be in attendance.

All funds going to the Mayo GAA training centre,Mayo Roscommon hospice and the Mayo New York GAA club.

A good spot is Rosie's. More than likely will end up there.

yop · 14-02-2019 3:15pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

Which fundraiser is this now....is it the one the players are boycotting, the one they are going to, the one Horan won't let them go to, or the one they are organizing themselves? And who is going to be in charge of the biscuit tin on the night? Or does everyone have a go at holding it? That seems fairer. And most importantly of all, what kind of biscuits are they....USA?

Ah now, not that the Dubs would need any fundraiser

#crokeparksponsoredteam

ProudDUB · 14-02-2019 5:09pm

yop wrote: »

Ah now, not that the Dubs would need any fundraiser #crokeparksponsoredteam

Not fair that we don't have one, seeing as we bank roll the rest of the GAA. :P

irishgeo · 14-02-2019 7:37pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

Not fair that we don't have one, seeing as we bank roll the rest of the GAA. :P

you mean the gaa bankrolls the dubs.

ProudDUB · 14-02-2019 11:33pm

No. We bank roll the GAA that bank rolls us while we bank roll the GAA. It's all the Mayo Co Boards fault & the money was just resting in a biscuit tin in the boot of a 2012 Renault Megane belonging to the Treasurer of the Galway Co board. Do try & keep up.

BandMember · 15-02-2019 12:01am

ProudDUB wrote: »

Not fair that we don't have one, seeing as we bank roll the rest of the GAA. :P

You sure about that??

You are right about one thing though - ye don't have one, because ye already had two. :cool:

https://www.irishtimes.com/sport/gaelic-games/stars-line-up-for-dublin-club-s-fundraiser-in-chicago-1.3621048

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/sam-maguire-cup-back-with-dublin-football-team-after-going-missing-in-new-york-881691.html

yop · 15-02-2019 12:32pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

No. We bank roll the GAA that bank rolls us while we bank roll the GAA. It's all the Mayo Co Boards fault & the money was just resting in a biscuit tin in the boot of a 2012 Renault Megane belonging to the Treasurer of the Galway Co board. Do try & keep up.

You need to over to the Galway thread and ask them how banking facilities work out of the boot of a car!

They are NAMA level there

I'm always a bit skeptical of these types of fund raisers

Heraldoffreeent · 15-02-2019 7:56pm

yop wrote: »

You need to over to the Galway thread and ask them how banking facilities work out of the boot of a car! They are NAMA level there

I'm always a bit skeptical of these types of fund raisers

Galway! Galway! Galway!..........ye're like a post brexit Britain looking longingly at first world countries.

ProudDUB · 15-02-2019 10:17pm

yop wrote: »

You need to over to the Galway thread and ask them how banking facilities work out of the boot of a car! They are NAMA level there

I'm always a bit skeptical of these types of fund raisers

Well seeing as Pearse Stadium has neither a safe nor a cash register, we thought about loaning them one of the spare solid gold cash registers from John Costello's office. But upon mature reflection, thought wiser of it. It would probably end up on Done Deal in the "one careful owner" section.

yop · 17-02-2019 8:00pm

We fell off page 1!!! We cant let that happen

Looking forward to next week, under lights its one of the best venus around.

Happyilylost · 17-02-2019 8:16pm

ProudDUB wrote:

No. We bank roll the GAA that bank rolls us while we bank roll the GAA. It's all the Mayo Co Boards fault & the money was just resting in a biscuit tin in the boot of a 2012 Renault Megane belonging to the Treasurer of the Galway Co board. Do try & keep up.

Our officials drive Audi's. They wouldn't know a Renault if I ran them over in it.

ProudDUB · 17-02-2019 9:36pm

Yeah. So does Aidan O'Shea. Our lot have to be content with humble Skodas and Subaru's. All well & good to have the Pope driving through Ballymun in one, but it's just not the same, is it?

Aido's going well this Spring, if his fan club on the Mayo News podcast is anything to go by. Is he going to lay down a marker, or make a statement of intent...or indulge in any of those other well worn Spring time cliche's?

irishgeo · 17-02-2019 11:17pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

Yeah. So does Aidan O'Shea. Our lot have to be content with humble Skodas and Subaru's. All well & good to have the Pope driving through Ballymun in one, but it's just not the same, is it?

Aido's going well this Spring, if his fan club on the Mayo News podcast is anything to go by. Is he going to lay down a marker, or make a statement of intent...or indulge in any of those other well worn Spring time cliche's?

Maybe all he needed was the summer off like the rest of the team. The break could be the making of us. When was the last time they had a break.

BandMember · 18-02-2019 12:27am

irishgeo wrote: »

Maybe all he needed was the summer off like the rest of the team. The break could be the making of us. When was the last time they had a break.

2010 I would imagine. That's a long time putting up some serious mileage....

Fr Tod Umptious · 18-02-2019 8:58am

BandMember wrote: »

2010 I would imagine. That's a long time putting up some serious mileage....

Yep
Between 2011 and 2017 they went.
SF
Final
Final
SF replay
SF replay
Final replay
Final.

No wonder they are fresh

Kumejima · 18-02-2019 12:50pm

Kerry supporter here. Just wondering if anyone knows where Tom Parsons is in his recovery? Any ETA for him coming back into the team? It was so horrific, is there a chance he won't come back?

PressRun · 18-02-2019 1:14pm

Last I heard (a while back) he was back running. I'm very in and out of the loop these days though, so don't know if that's true or not. Still think he might be a long way off playing a competitive match.

Bunny Colvin · 18-02-2019 2:05pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

Yeah. So does Aidan O'Shea. Our lot have to be content with humble Skodas and Subaru's. All well & good to have the Pope driving through Ballymun in one, but it's just not the same, is it?

Aido's going well this Spring, if his fan club on the Mayo News podcast is anything to go by. Is he going to lay down a marker, or make a statement of intent...or indulge in any of those other well worn Spring time cliche's?

He's been consistently one of our best players for a while now. Wouldn't like to be without him.

seligehgit · 18-02-2019 2:16pm

Barry Cassidy is the man in the middle on Saturday night.

It's a scary thought given our recent record but I can't wait to head into Croker for the game on Saturday night.

RedDevil55 · 18-02-2019 2:48pm

Kumejima wrote: »

Kerry supporter here. Just wondering if anyone knows where Tom Parsons is in his recovery? Any ETA for him coming back into the team? It was so horrific, is there a chance he won't come back?

James Horan was asked about him after the Cavan game but the response was fairly vague. Just said that he expects Parsons, Cillian O'Connor and Cian Hanley to be back in the the next couple of months.

Would love to see him return but his general well being is the most important thing. If there's a chance the knee could go again it might be best to forget about football.

ProudDUB · 18-02-2019 2:59pm

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

He's been consistently one of our best players for a while now. Wouldn't like to be without him.

Not against us he isn't. Games tend to pass him by for the most part. He's not nearly as influential as the likes of Keegan, O'Connor, Higgins etc etc against us. Dunno if it's a lack of pace/speed of the game thing with him or what, but I'd be much more worried about what 4 or 5 other Mayo players are up to, before him. Will I get lynched now for saying that?

Fr Tod Umptious · 18-02-2019 3:37pm

ProudDUB wrote: »

Not against us he isn't. Games tend to pass him by for the most part. He's not nearly as influential as the likes of Keegan, O'Connor, Higgins etc etc against us. Dunno if it's a lack of pace/speed of the game thing with him or what, but I'd be much more worried about what 4 or 5 other Mayo players are up to, before him. Will I get lynched now for saying that?

Mayo have not beaten Dublin since 2012.
I think it's a total of 12 games.
In all that time we have seen AOS have stromers against Sligo, Roscommon, Galway, Donegal, maybe even against Kerry

But never against Dublin.

He really needs a big big game v Dublin or else there will always be the shadow of him going missing when it really really matters.

Bunny Colvin · 18-02-2019 3:42pm

I don't think he was posted missing in the '17 final to be fair.

ProudDUB · 18-02-2019 4:05pm

Bunny Colvin wrote: »

I don't think he was posted missing in the '17 final to be fair.

Was that the one where he had a lovely hand off to Keegan for a goal?

It was a peach of a goal in fairness. But if it's the same game I'm thinking off, he wasn't a factor in the game, after the 45th minute or thereabouts. That is way too long to be going missing imo. He's such a big man, maybe the pace the game is played at and the heat of the day, means he just can't be effective over the full 70 minutes. It's no fault of his own, if he can't. But when is a Mayo manager going to be brave enough to take him off after 50 minutes, or not start him in the first place & spring him from the bench?

He draws enough column inches as it is. Doing that would create an even bigger kerfuffle. I don't envy them, especially as the older & less mobile he gets, the more of a problem it's going to be. Ah well, at least he won't have to worry about the heat on Saturday.

seligehgit · 18-02-2019 7:03pm

RedDevil55 wrote: »

James Horan was asked about him after the Cavan game but the response was fairly vague. Just said that he expects Parsons, Cillian O'Connor and Cian Hanley to be back in the the next couple of months.

Would love to see him return but his general well being is the most important thing. If there's a chance the knee could go again it might be best to forget about football.

Thought it was mentioned that he wouldn't be back this season??

RedDevil55 · 18-02-2019 8:09pm

seligehgit wrote: »

Thought it was mentioned that he wouldn't be back this season??

I doubt it has been confirmed either way.

The high horse brigade · 18-02-2019 8:35pm

seligehgit wrote: »

Thought it was mentioned that he wouldn't be back this season??

It's been less than a year. He may get a run for next years league, not a hope before that

seligehgit · 20-02-2019 10:36pm

The Gaelic Football Show

Episode Three Enda Varley,Murphy's best position,Toxic Dubs Mayo Rivalry

https://cdn.radiocms.net/radio-cms/uploads/2019/02/20175427/2002-gaelic-football-show-EP3-POD.mp3

Very good podcast.

Great interview with Enda Varley discussing all things Mayo for the first 19 minutes.

The end of the podcast raises any interesting question.

Will Cluxton start for Dublin on Saturday?

cossy09 · 21-02-2019 1:08pm

HI Guys

Based in Dublin (Mayo Father). Bringing him on Sat night to Croker. I am a Dub but have been supporting Mayo since 2006 . Main reason is for my father . He is elderly and has only memories of listening to the 50'51 Finals on a radio when he was 10/11 . So we have had some great trip's over the last 8 years around the country ultimately ending in disappointment. We got to no games last year due to Mayo's poor season.

So looking forward to Sat night. I have bought 2 tickets in Lower Hogan. My sister has now asked if we could bring her 5 year old along . Does anyone know the story here? Can we just turn up and pay a fiver at the gate for my nephew to get in. He can sit on my knee or I am sure we can move around as it wont be full capacity .? Dont have kids of my own so just wondering if that would work. ?

Cheers

charolais0153 · 21-02-2019 1:15pm

cossy09 wrote: »

HI Guys

Based in Dublin (Mayo Father). Bringing him on Sat night to Croker. I am a Dub but have been supporting Mayo since 2006 . Main reason is for my father . He is elderly and has only memories of listening to the 50'51 Finals on a radio when he was 10/11 . So we have had some great trip's over the last 8 years around the country ultimately ending in disappointment. We got to no games last year due to Mayo's poor season.

So looking forward to Sat night. I have bought 2 tickets in Lower Hogan. My sister has now asked if we could bring her 5 year old along . Does anyone know the story here? Can we just turn up and pay a fiver at the gate for my nephew to get in. He can sit on my knee or I am sure we can move around as it wont be full capacity .? Dont have kids of my own so just wondering if that would work. ?

Cheers

Dont think theres kids tickets for the hogan. Doubt theyd let him in free either

Mayo GAA Discussion - Part 3

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