De-platforming fascists works

Deleted User wrote: »

Anyone that defends this (or the Glitter Hole library readings) and then slam Milo for being a paedo apologist really need to take a long look in the mirror.

Has anyone here defended it?

most liberal and left leaning people are normal joe soaps who are horrified by that glitter hole crap. the trouble is they have given the microphone to the most deranged fringe elements on their "side" and have allowed a culture to develop in which any descent is "fascist"

xckjoo wrote: »

What forced control of the media is Harris doing?

He's exerting pressure on social media to back his Vax agenda, now I'm not anti vax but I do have an issue with a politician calling the shots on what is and isn't the truth. That should be up to the individual to asses the facts and make up their own mind.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

He's exerting pressure on social media to back his Vax agenda, now I'm not anti vax but I do have an issue with a politician calling the shots on what is and isn't the truth. That should be up to the individual to asses the facts and make up their own mind.

I get your point but if the Minister for Health dosen't try to silence idiot anti-vax morons whose spread of disinformation can lead to illness and death then i don't think they should be Minister for Health.

ollkiller wrote: »

I get your point but if the Minister for Health dosen't try to silence idiot anti-vax morons whose spread of disinformation can lead to illness and death then i don't think they should be Minister for Health.

There's a multitude of reasons he shouldn't be minister for health. He has no business telling the media to silence discontent, that media should fact check itself, if he tries to shut it down he only ends up driving them somewhere like dissenter or gab where they'll tell him where to go if he tries to shut down free speech. Saying that where free speech is allowed they'll put the anti vaxers back in their box naturally.
I'm not convinced there is 0% of danger with vaccination and both sides should be allowed express their views.

Deleted User wrote: »

So it's not forced control at all, not even close

Seriously you believe the government and Harris in particular have not had any influence on the Irish media over the last few years. Tá?

WB Yokes wrote: »

Who will be next? White LGBT?

this is what you get with the intersectional identity stuff; ever decreasing circles. groups getting ever more unique and esoteric until you end up with? thats right! THE INDIVIDUAL! which the unit of measurement upon which the rights and responsibilities of humans should be based rather than this poisonous group identity bollox.

Matt Barrett wrote: »

You just made an arse of your whole posting agenda. It's safe to say that most 'people' wanted any wrong doing by the church exposed. Basically certain people like and dislike certain things. By your own logic exposing the church would be a win for the left, but suddenly there's no sides on that one and rightly so.
Then you back track and shoe horn in 'liberals of old' rather than keep up your charade. If you were cleverer you might have given the left that one then you could continue your fallacy of things either being Left, (too PC, taking away rights, going to far with 'equality' etc.) or Right, (yeah there's a few bad apples but...).
Long story short not everything good is either left or right so to try tar everything you don't like, like censorship as a characteristic of the left, alone is baloney. We've generations of right wing, christian led censorship, locking up single mothers, taking away babies, banning offensive music, books...a few people speak out for minorities or say the didn't like Dave Chappelle and y'all lose your sh*t.

So much is wrong with what you have posted ..

1) I don't think 'left is good and right is bad' and if you paid attention to my posts you would know that. I oppose almost all far right wing views which is why in my 15 years posting on Boards I've never espoused them. Guess some might say because I'm prolife that makes me right wing but I'm prolife from a centrist perspective, given that my grounds for being prolife are not religious borne given I'm an atheist. No, I don't think Donald Trump's a nazi or the GOP all white supremacists but fail to see how not seeing them as those things, makes me those things, which was the suggestion that was levelled at me.

2) With regards to censorship, I am against most forms of it and can assure you I was just as much against right wing folk attempting to censor the performing arts over the years as I am with the left attempting to do so today. The reason you don't see me (or others) complaining about the right doing it these days is because there aren't many examples of it as there was in days of old but if they did, I wouldn't see them getting much support, least of all from me.

3) With regards to 'liberalism' like I said, I used to call myself a liberal, and indeed campaigned on many liberal issues, but much like feminism, liberalism has been hijacked by extremists and, imo, they all warrant the condemnation they get and then some. I think the opposite is happening with conservatism and aside from the relatively small number of genuine bonafide card carrying racists, I actually think conservatism is coming more towards the centre these days. Gone are the days of it being all about bible bashing and Mary Whitehouse types, it's more about people baulking at the western world which the left has delivered us. This is why more and more countries in the west are voting for politicians that have conservative and nationalist views. They're sick of being spoken down to by leftist ideologues who have no regard for traditional values and use the word white as a pejorative.

4) De-platforming is all about control. As are Google's manipulative antics. The left want the right silenced as they want to remain in control of what people think. Do that and they can influence how people vote, which of course is the ultimate objective. We can see from how much the MSM reports on the scurrilous antics of the likes of Antifa that they endorse what they do. Same goes with how they report corrupt liberal politicians and corrupt liberal law enforcement and intelligence officials. The NY Times even just changed the front page headline because the leftist mob on Twitter demanded it. The left have no integrity anymore and I know the real reason why, but I'll save that for my next blog.

Deleted User wrote: »

Are you advocating for anarchy?

jimgoose wrote: »

He's probably about twelve years old. :pac:

Less government restrictions on individual freedom = anarchy. Wow.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

No minister should be trying to silence anyone. Silencing people is fundamentally immoral in a democratic system.

Did he not ask them to be factual? I don't think anyone was coerced or threatened with prosecution.

hatrickpatrick wrote: »

Free speech covers everything, otherwise it isn't free speech. There should be no compromise on that. None.

How was it impinged?

jimgoose wrote: »

...and I was wondering if the chap is too young yet to have grasped that everybody is truly free because the government can impose rules.

Your gone to the far end of the spectrum with freedom.
The Garda role should be to protect us from physical violence, theft things like that. Not when I can get a beer butt out it's none of your business Government, take your tax from the transaction and feck off and fix the health system or something useful.

xckjoo wrote: »

Me bollox. There's no such thing. Would you be OK with people being free to spread lies about you?

Have you seen the amount of purgery convictions in this country. Practically 0. People are free to lie to the Guards and Courts about you without fear of conviction.

drunkmonkey wrote: »

This is the result of Government. First they split us into left and right, then they split us by religion, then they split us again by 52 genders then they done it again with the right to life. We're now so dismantled as a nation the Government have complete control any opposition is shot down as a Healy-Rae.
Climate is the latest way of extracting more taxes and splitting us again. Politicans are using that horse maure for the last 100yrs. It won't be VW Passat that knocks Gretta off her super yacht it'll be a massive fecking meteor just like the Dinosaurs.

The government aren't doing any of that my dude. They're just responding to what they're hearing the public cry about. "Left and right" division has exploded because too many people are spending too long watching American media and parroting it here like they've come up with something insightful. Can't think of a single instance of them talking about multiple genders, but maybe there's one or two. Don't think there's been any changes to laws related to gender so far. Nobody is dismissed as a "Healy Rae" except for the Healy-Raes (and there's enough of them). The climate emergency stuff has also all be reactionary to public outcry. Sure it'll be inefficient and money will be pocketed, but that's not a sign of some kind of government conspiracy; just a facet of human nature and the inefficiency of bureaucracy.

Democratic governments are a product of the people. If they were so forward thinking and controlling, we'd still have Fianna Fail in charge of everything and Trump wouldn't be in the White House.

super_furry wrote: »

Terms of service have no political alignment.

Those overseeing their implementation do though

Matt Barrett wrote: »

...because they make him money.

If money was his motivation then why isn't he even taking a salary?

It's because of his hate speech on minorities and actions against minorities and specific countries based on religion...

You're just pushing a false narrative and it's disgusting. What we are seeing today is purely propaganda from the left and the mainstream media. They'd have us all believe that Trump just dog whistles to white supremacists all day long and sleeps in KKK pajamas. You all quote him out of context (in the case of Charlottesville) or exaggerate comments he has made about specific immigrants (like MS-13 and certain other illegals) and repeat it over and over again, hoping it'll stick, and with some I guess it will, but that's all you have after three years of analyzing every single thing he has done 24-7. Sorry, but nothing I have seen from this president is suggestive of him being a racist.

Doesn't mean you don't work to keep black people down when the opportunity arises.

What are you on about? How does Trump keep black people down whenever the opportunity arises? Where are you getting this crap from? Stop believing everything you read on partisan forums and from certain sections of the media. Trump has passed legislation that has helped more black people than any other race and done many other things too which he certainly could have avoided doing had he wanted to, as is your suggestion.

Here are some clips with some specific examples, starting with two to show some of the positive effects of the First Step Act have had on black Americans:






He's commuted Alice Johnson's sentence:




Hosted a Black History day at the White House:




And also a Young Black Leadership Summit:




Had all the leaders of Historically Black Colleges in the Oval Office the day he signed an executive order to promote excellence and innovation at these colleges.




Even the first national monument Trump designated honoured black soldiers of the Civil War.

So give the racist Trump narrative a rest. It's baloney and in fact is resulting in more and more black people saying they intend to vote for him in 2020.

Liberals of course will say Trump is pandering to blacks. No, he's not. Telling blacks you bring hot sauce everywhere you go though and listen to Tupac in the mid 80's, now that's pandering to black people.

Matt Barrett wrote: »

Can you elaborate?
The people who spoke out against the church are doing what now exactly? It's forced decency and we hear grumbles from the conservatives. As I think Chris Rock said, '‘When You’re Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression’'.
All I'm seeing, (and if you look at the threads on boards) is a lot of people fearful of change. There's more hitting out at perceived oppression than actual oppression. You've Trump, Johnson and vacuous Varadkar, yet the liberal left are ruling the roost because of a few twitter comments? Give over.

Who in PBP or the #metoo dream't up the blasphemy law?

Your right comrade we must force decency on everyone, including those we disagree with.

Boards also has allot of woke self righteous and individuals who smugly look down on anyone with a different opinion. The funny thing is they have consumed so much of their own bull**** they basically push inequality and wrap it up as being decent.

Then try and silence others because their truth is the more righteous.