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UFC On Fuel TV 9

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  • #202
    SDTimeout
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,660 ✭✭✭SDTimeout


    Had to be blunt and to the point but I got Dana to praise Conor, I'm sure he would have anyway but still.

    Great event , going to be remembered in a few tears when a belt is being put around his waist.


  • #203
    [Deleted User]
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    Wrongway1985 wrote: »
    before this I was on 188 euros dole I dunno what the f*ck is goin' on".

    I would have thought he would be making enough income from Cage Warriors, sponsors and classes not to qualify for the dole?


  • #204
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    I would have thought he would be making enough income from Cage Warriors, sponsors and classes not to qualify for the dole?

    State Benefits Forum for those questions please, lets stick to MMA in this one.


  • #205
    peteeeed
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,563 ✭✭✭✭peteeeed


    And yet you look at rte.ie today and this event that has gripped so many irish sports fans never happened


  • #206
    El Guapo!
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    peteeeed wrote: »
    And yet you look at rte.ie today and this event that has gripped so many irish sports fans never happened

    Yep. That's the part that sickens me.
    Mma is hardly an underground sport anymore and yet our media never shows any interest unless its negative.
    But you can guarantee that if Conor wins a UFC belt, the media will jump on the bandwagon and be licking his hole and praising him as one of Ireland's greatest sports stars. Yet they couldn't care less about it at the minute. It's a joke.


  • #207
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    El Guapo! wrote: »
    Yep. That's the part that sickens me.
    Mma is hardly an underground sport anymore and yet our media never shows any interest unless its negative.
    But you can guarantee that if Conor wins a UFC belt, the media will jump on the bandwagon and be licking his hole and praising him as one of Ireland's greatest sports stars. Yet they couldn't care less about it at the minute. It's a joke.

    Don't let it sicken you buddy, our day will come!.

    Its not that long ago that I was ridiculed on this forum for encouraging people to follow and support Irish MMA, in fairness I was probably brow beating people to death with it however that being the case few followed it.

    Now I smile and think back to the days of Ring of Truth, and when I cornered for Stewart Edgeworth and we were told we'd be thrown out of AKAI if we continued to associate with MMA ~ serious!.

    Conors win is great for Irish MMA, that goes without saying. I was amazed at the amount of people asking me about him and MMA in the bar last night.

    Brilliant and well done Conor and each and every one of his SBG team mates.


  • #208
    [Deleted User]
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    Zain Aggressive Tuition wrote: »
    State Benefits Forum for those questions please, lets stick to MMA in this one.

    The question was more about how much (or how little) he was earning previously. There is a full thread below about cowboy organisations not paying fighters so this is a perfectly valid topic of discussion.

    My comment was more about being quite surprised a Cage Warriors champ in two divisions could be making so little money that he would be on the dole. It is great to see Conor has finally made it big time and is being paid his due by a decent organisation.


  • #209
    riffmongous
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    Is there any word of it in the newspapers though? I think they would be a better gauge of interest than RTE,Ireland were beating teams in the cricket world cup as massive underdogs and RTE were trying their best not to acknowledge it, so I wouldn't rely on what they report.


  • #210
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    Deleted User wrote: »
    The question was more about how much (or how little) he was earning previously. There is a full thread below about cowboy organisations not paying fighters so this is a perfectly valid topic of discussion.

    My comment was more about being quite surprised a Cage Warriors champ in two divisions could be making so little money that he would be on the dole. It is great to see Conor has finally made it big time and is being paid his due by a decent organisation.

    Ok I get you, but fighters purses and sponsorship deals have been discussed at length in other threads, dole payments haven't and we don't discuss them here. Thanks.


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  • #211
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    riffmongous wrote: »
    Is there any word of it in the newspapers though? I think they would be a better gauge of interest than RTE,Ireland were beating teams in the cricket world cup as massive underdogs and RTE were trying their best not to acknowledge it, so I wouldn't rely on what they report.

    I seen a report on breakingnews.ie yesterday but haven't heard anything about the printed medai, but I'm too scabby to buy newspapers anyway :P


  • #212
    El Guapo!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    The question was more about how much (or how little) he was earning previously. There is a full thread below about cowboy organisations not paying fighters so this is a perfectly valid topic of discussion.

    My comment was more about being quite surprised a Cage Warriors champ in two divisions could be making so little money that he would be on the dole. It is great to see Conor has finally made it big time and is being paid his due by a decent organisation.

    Even though he was a champ in two weight classes, I'd doubt he was making anywhere near enough to live on. That'd be pretty standard across the board in mma at that level. Most fighters will have to keep a second job or claim benefits just to survive.
    Sure there have been lots of fighters still keeping a second job right up until their 3rd or 4th fight in the UFC. They have to.
    At a low level in the UFC, fighters would only be getting paid about 6k per fight (plus a win bonus). If they only fight maybe twice or three times per year, that's not enough to survive on when you factor in training costs, travel costs, fight camp expenses etc.


  • #213
    Scar Tissue
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    El Guapo! wrote: »
    If they only fight maybe twice or three times per year, that's not enough to survive on when you factor in training costs, travel costs, fight camp expenses etc.

    You'd be cutting it close nevermind training costs, travel costs and fight camp expenses wouldn't you? We're talking say $12-18k pre-tax, converted to (very roughly) €10-€15k


  • #214
    El Guapo!
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,438 ✭✭✭✭El Guapo!


    Scar Tissue wrote: »
    You'd be cutting it close nevermind training costs, travel costs and fight camp expenses wouldn't you? We're talking say $12-18k pre-tax, converted to (very roughly) €10-€15k

    Exactly. It's not till you make a name for yourself and start to move up the rankings that you start earning decent enough money to live on and use fighting as your only source of income.


  • #215
    Scar Tissue
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    El Guapo! wrote: »
    Exactly. It's not till you make a name for yourself and start to move up the rankings that you start earning decent enough money to live on and use fighting as your only source of income.

    Or in Connor's case, win a fight bonus or two!


  • #216
    arybvtcw0eolkf
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    Scar Tissue wrote: »
    Or in Connor's case, win a fight bonus or two!

    With those kinda wins he'll be making a killing :pac: .... In bonus payments of course!.


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  • #217
    Wrongway1985
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,386 ✭✭✭Wrongway1985


    El Guapo! wrote: »
    Yep. That's the part that sickens me.
    Mma is hardly an underground sport anymore and yet our media never shows any interest unless its negative.
    But you can guarantee that if Conor wins a UFC belt, the media will jump on the bandwagon and be licking his hole and praising him as one of Ireland's greatest sports stars. Yet they couldn't care less about it at the minute. It's a joke.

    Absolutely also they covered WWE wrestler Seamus in various Irish media when he won a title that was scripted and fail to cover legitimate achievements then feckin scandalous.


  • #218
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    El Guapo! wrote: »
    Even though he was a champ in two weight classes, I'd doubt he was making anywhere near enough to live on. That'd be pretty standard across the board in mma at that level. Most fighters will have to keep a second job or claim benefits just to survive.
    Sure there have been lots of fighters still keeping a second job right up until their 3rd or 4th fight in the UFC. They have to.
    At a low level in the UFC, fighters would only be getting paid about 6k per fight (plus a win bonus). If they only fight maybe twice or three times per year, that's not enough to survive on when you factor in training costs, travel costs, fight camp expenses etc.

    Its a real shame that it is so tough for young fighters, im delighted that Conor got the knock-out bonus and with his interviews and general media attention I have a feeling he'll have no shortage of sponsors from now on.


  • #219
    El Guapo!
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    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Its a real shame that it is so tough for young fighters, im delighted that Conor got the knock-out bonus and with his interviews and general media attention I have a feeling he'll have no shortage of sponsors from now on.


    Yeah I have no doubt there'll be sponsors banging his door down to sign him up. He's very quickly making a name for himself and everyone wants to be on the McGregor train.
    Last week, nobody knew who Conor was. Just take a look at any of the mma websites today and his face is plastered all over them. The whole mma world has stood up and took notice of him. Everyone sees the potential in him and its really exciting times for irish mma.


  • #220
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,645 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    My housemate is the typical ignoramus who always considered MMA "a bit too gay". He had never heard of Conor until two days ago when he found a random link to the weigh-in staredown.

    Yesterday, after the win, I ran into the kitchen and told him "Remember I mentioned the Irish guy who was fighting in the UFC? Well, he just won". From there, he started asking more questions, then watched the Buchinger and Hill fights on youtube.

    I think he may suddenly be an MMA fan now, thanks to Conor.


  • #221
    Andy-Pandy
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,848 ✭✭✭Andy-Pandy


    Out of interest, what was his purse for the fight?


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  • #222
    El Guapo!
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    Andy-Pandy wrote: »
    Out of interest, what was his purse for the fight?

    I don't think that info has been released yet. It normally is released within a couple of days of the event.


  • #223
    Niall0
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    Andy-Pandy wrote: »
    Out of interest, what was his purse for the fight?
    6000 show and 6000 win bonus is the usual for the first fight on the contract i think


  • #224
    darced
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    This post has been deleted.


  • #225
    adamski8
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    Niall0 wrote: »
    6000 show and 6000 win bonus is the usual for the first fight on the contract i think

    Depends on what the fighter did before. Its usually 8,000 but im guessing he would have 16,000 basic because of his previous success.


  • #226
    Be like Nutella
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    darced wrote: »
    This post has been deleted.

    left MTB out of the equation coz he's been out for ages nearly a year now... don't know what the status with him is right now. Would be a good name to fight deffo.

    I think Mcgregor could walk into the cage next week and take out a top 10 guy. I'm just narrowing down the likely match ups. I genuinely think they'll match him with somebody taller next and I doubt they'll give him a top 10 or a straight up wrestler and there's tons of match ups made already which puts a load of guys out of the equation so given the roster they have right now I'd say it's one of those 8 I mentioned... or MTB. They could shock us all though and throw him in with top drawer guy who knows. He's capable of beating almost anyone on his day from the evidence we have IMO... his striking is that good. I don't want to put the mocklers on him and start talkin top division guys yet.... as he says he just wants to be kept busy and get into things and take each one as it comes, he's broken the ice now... well more like smashed through it.


  • #227
    Andy-Pandy
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    How about a match up with the Korean Zombie, Jung Chan-Sung. That would be amazing to watch. Maybe too soon, but it would be some fight.


  • #228
    dave1982
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    Reading some american forums McGregor is going down well talk of him V the Korean Zombie is mentioned alot.

    Oh and he being compared a Irsh Diaz Brother:pac:

    I hope he gets as much as he can out of this :)


  • #229
    SevereMMA
    Registered Users Posts: 435 ✭✭SevereMMA


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55enKPGruI8


  • #230
    Be like Nutella
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    as much warrior in him as a Diaz... but less emotion in the fight.... and less retardedityness


  • #231
    Be like Nutella
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    HAHAHAH love the kid breakin down the fight hahahaha that's gas


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  • #232
    Zero-Cool
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    Keep rewatching THE fight, absolutely brilliant. I checked RTE news/sport and not a sign of this, stupid bastards!!


  • #233
    SureYWouldntYa
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    sheehy83 wrote: »
    Keep rewatching THE fight, absolutely brilliant. I checked RTE news/sport and not a sign of this, stupid bastards!!

    rte probably still think of MMA as "cage fighting between animals with no rules"


  • #234
    Zero-Cool
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    SureYWouldntYa wrote: »
    rte probably still think of MMA as "cage fighting between animals with no rules"

    Jaysus can't be having any of that bloodsport UFC on 6 1!


  • #235
    Be like Nutella
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    sheehy83 wrote: »
    I checked RTE news/sport and not a sign of this, stupid bastards!!

    That's so ridiculously mental it's actually angering me now as I type this.


  • #236
    Be like Nutella
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    ok slow the horses there.... I see RTE sport have an interview with Pendred from recently enough so maybe they're ya know.. off for the weekend.... sure it'll be up there tomorrow first thing! Let's give them the benefit of the doubt!

    http://www.rte.ie/sport/search/?q=MMA


  • #237
    Be like Nutella
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    What IS unforgivable is the Irish stupid Times.... they have a sports tweet feed on the right hand side of their sports page

    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport/other-sports

    and right through yesterday and today there's tweets firing left right and center bout Golf and Rugby and GAA and feckin tiddlywinks and not ONE SINGLE MENTION of McGregors feats. Now I'm angry again.

    Prepare yourself Irish Times for the wrath of my email.

    Annoying though - of course they heard about it, they have to have they're permanently clued into international sports results right through the weekend... no way they didn't hear and no way they didn't make a clear choice NOT to post anything on it. Stuck up their own arses !


  • #238
    Be like Nutella
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    email sent...

    This the page - not a peep about it

    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport

    This the email if anyone wants to add their voice

    Online Sports Editor
    Noel O'Reilly
    noreilly@irishtimes.com


  • #239
    Mr. CooL ICE
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,645 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    Be like Nutella wrote: »
    email sent...

    This the page - not a peep about it

    http://www.irishtimes.com/sport

    This the email if anyone wants to add their voice

    Online Sports Editor
    Noel O'Reilly
    noreilly@irishtimes.com

    If I were you, I'd let them go to work on Monday morning first


  • #240
    Be like Nutella
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,830 ✭✭✭Be like Nutella


    My cousin works for them and just posted his article on China/North Korea so although I know what you mean in the case of the Irish Times they are busy right through the weekend as is evident by at least 10 sport articles posted today alone and hundreds of tweets right through the weekend.... they should be all over this with a photo and small article clearly.


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  • #241
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Conor will be onTheMMA Hour again this week. The momentum continues


  • #242
    Mellor
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    This is the live thread for the fight on the UG forums.
    It was posted just as the fighters came out. So, there's not much in the way of updates. But the first couple of posts are pretty funny.
    http://www.mixedmartialarts.com/mma.cfm?go=forum.posts&thread=2157458
    Up next... I got Brimage
    I got Brimage as well, not buying into this mcgregor hype just yet
    I hope brimage
    Brimage was a dick on TUF. He's one of those TUF alums who's not going too far so it'd be a shame if he beat a guy like McGregor who does have potential to go far.
    Brimage is killing the hype.
    Brimage!!!!
    (Fight starts)
    Damn, Marcus is banging
    (60 seconds in)
    HOLY FUCKING SHlT BALLS!
    ...
    And the complete 180 continues from there


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