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Green Party Leadership Contest

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  • #52
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,847 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    gmisk wrote: »
    What do you think will come out?
    I don't think she picked the senators, the ones selected polled extremely well in GE, I think the best out of greens not to get in? Seems like sensible choices to me

    Ask anyone in the greens in dublin /Leinster and they’ll have stories on her. And the husband.

    A local councilor told me there was general disbelief she actually challenged ER given some of the shenanigans that have gone on behind the scenes over the last few years.

    ER - being the wily campaigner he is - knew all this and his campaign subtly reminded ppl of it.

    You don’t get to be around as long as he has without learning a few tricks along the way - and crucially - building up loyalties and respect.


  • #53
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 40,292 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Beechwoodspark wrote: »
    ER - being the wily campaigner he is - knew all this and his campaign subtly reminded ppl of it.

    You don’t get to be around as long as he has without learning a few tricks along the way - and crucially - building up loyalties and respect.
    He won just by the skin of his teeth so loyalty obviously isn't that strong towards him.


  • #54
    Beechwoodspark
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,847 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    He won just by the skin of his teeth so loyalty obviously isn't that strong towards him.


    Look at the low turnout. That says it all about what the membership think about either option.


  • #55
    ancapailldorcha
    Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 39,551 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Mod: A post has been deleted. Please bear the charter in mind when posting.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • #56
    StackSteevens
    Closed Accounts Posts: 873 ✭✭✭StackSteevens


    Imreoir2 wrote: »
    Except that the nomination of senators was not Carherine Martin's decision, nor was it her husbands.

    Her husband was selected as a GE candidate by the party members of his constituency, not by his wife, and he won enough votes to get himself elected.

    You seem to have an axe to grind...


    Alternatively, perhaps he just isn't keen on political incest.

    In time, it seems likely that the Greens will end up with their own veggie version of the Healy-Rae clan.


  • #57
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Green senator Garvey apologises after insulting party deputy leader in group texts https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40028459.html over promotion via the Seanad


  • #58
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,542 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Martin's brother went to bat in the Seanad for what is clearly the core issue for his constituents - the Leinster Senior Cup final...

    Fighting with FF for which party is more jokeshop really.


  • #59
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    L1011 wrote: »
    Martin's brother went to bat in the Seanad for what is clearly the core issue for his constituents - the Leinster Senior Cup final...

    Fighting with FF for which party is more jokeshop really.

    A lot of first time TDs ans Senators. They need time to get their feet under the table. Previous student politics does not count as political experience.

    Ryan is a weak leader, almost as weak as the Micky Martin - FF.


  • #60
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    A lot of first time TDs ans Senators. They need time to get their feet under the table. Previous student politics does not count as political experience.
    Garvey and Vincent Martin are not spring chickens


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  • #61
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,542 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    A lot of first time TDs ans Senators. They need time to get their feet under the table. Previous student politics does not count as political experience.

    Ryan is a weak leader, almost as weak as the Micky Martin - FF.

    Vincent Martin was a councillor (Ind not GP) over two decades ago. He knows what he's at. Appeal to the FG-on-bikes contingent in the constituency, of which there are plenty.


  • #62
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    L1011 wrote: »
    Vincent Martin was a councillor (Ind not GP) over two decades ago. He knows what he's at. Appeal to the FG-on-bikes contingent in the constituency, of which there are plenty.

    Does not stop him or others behaving like undergraduates learning how to protest - and thinking it makes a difference.

    Remember Bad Boy Barrett was a serial protester when he was elected a councillor to DCC and then continued to protest outside the council, marshalling his troops on the picket line.

    He was not ready to take his protest to where he could actually make a difference. Kids playing at politics.


  • #63
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    Does not stop him or others behaving like undergraduates learning how to protest - and thinking it makes a difference.

    Remember Bad Boy Barrett was a serial protester when he was elected a councillor to DCC and then continued to protest outside the council, marshalling his troops on the picket line.

    He was not ready to take his protest to where he could actually make a difference. Kids playing at politics.
    I thought this was a thread about the green party


  • #64
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,542 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Sam Russell wrote: »
    Does not stop him or others behaving like undergraduates learning how to protest - and thinking it makes a difference.

    Remember Bad Boy Barrett was a serial protester when he was elected a councillor to DCC and then continued to protest outside the council, marshalling his troops on the picket line.

    He was not ready to take his protest to where he could actually make a difference. Kids playing at politics.

    What he's doing is the exact opposite of protest... as should be clear from what I said he was doing.


  • #65
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    L1011 wrote: »
    Vincent Martin was a councillor (Ind not GP) over two decades ago. He knows what he's at. Appeal to the FG-on-bikes contingent in the constituency, of which there are plenty.

    Take a look at Vincent P Martin's effort in the Seanad, on the Schools Cup Final, if he keeps that up he won't appeal to many


  • #66
    L1011
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 69,542 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    tabby aspreme wrote: »
    Take a look at Vincent P Martin's effort in the Seanad, on the Schools Cup Final, if he keeps that up he won't appeal to many

    That's what I brought up - plenty of voters for that in his constituency; they just voted for Durkan (who has to retire, surely) or possibly Stagg efore.


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  • #67
    tabby aspreme
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,034 ✭✭✭tabby aspreme


    L1011 wrote: »
    That's what I brought up - plenty of voters for that in his constituency; they just voted for Durkan (who has to retire, surely) or possibly Stagg efore.

    The way he delivered the speech was worse than the content, north Kildare would be a prime constituency for the Green's definitely


  • #68
    Sam Russell
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 19,864 Mod ✭✭✭✭Sam Russell


    expectationlost wrote: »
    I thought this was a thread about the green party

    I was referring to the report that some GP TDs were biding their time as to when they would walk out of Gov.

    Do they not understand that they need to push from within to get their agenda through. Outside of Gov they have zero power.

    Currently they have a few key ministries and the Lord Mayor of Dublin. These are good platforms to get their message across. They should not waste it - they are playing senior hurling now.


  • #69
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,985 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    expectationlost wrote: »
    Green senator Garvey apologises after insulting party deputy leader in group texts https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40028459.html over promotion via the Seanad
    working link https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40028681.html


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