Phibsborough, Dublin 7

16-12-2020 3:50pm

tropple wrote: »

Update: it's a new Sherry Fitzgerald office

Eh, wouldn't have been my first choice but it's better than the vacant bookies.

deep_dish · 16-12-2020 4:37pm

Better than being derelict but not much of an amenity for residents of the area

eastwest · 17-12-2020 12:41am

tropple wrote: »

Update: it's a new Sherry Fitzgerald office

Looks very well, like it had always been there. We were sitting in Lorettas having dinner tonight when we realised it was new, despite having been looking at it for half an hour!
It might have been nicer if it was another high end eatery like our choice for tonight, but on the other hand it's a further vote of confidence in the arrea.

17-12-2020 2:02pm

Went over Broombridge earlier for the first time since it opened. It's a single lane bridge and cars are apparently only allowed over from the Cabra side towards Finglas, but there was a queue of cars waiting to come the other way. Are there no buses that use it yet, or is it just people ignoring the rules?

Bandana boy · 17-12-2020 2:36pm

eastwest wrote: »

It might have been nicer if it was another high end eatery like our choice for tonight,

High end Eatery !!! lol

you must have shares in that place , your always bigging it up way more than the reality of the place ! and that's from somebody who actually likes the place.

Amirani · 17-12-2020 2:59pm

deep_dish wrote: »

Better than being derelict but not much of an amenity for residents of the area

I do know what you mean, but people in Phibsborough do buy, sell and rent houses; so having estate agents around is useful for residents.

A non derelict building will generally improve things no matter what it is; it will create employment, both in the refurbished building, but also in other businesses around that the staff will use.

ongarboy · 17-12-2020 3:31pm

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/phibsborough-residents-and-businesses-seek-change-to-busconnects-plans-for-village-1.4438899

Looks like Bus Connect plans for Phibsboro may be hitting a roadblock.

Beersmith · 17-12-2020 3:33pm

Amirani wrote: »

I do know what you mean, but people in Phibsborough do buy, sell and rent houses; so having estate agents around is useful for residents.

A non derelict building will generally improve things no matter what it is; it will create employment, both in the refurbished building, but also in other businesses around that the staff will use.

I've been involved in buying, selling, renting and never had to step into an estate agents physical premises. Thought those physical outlets would be a thing of the past. Can't imagine they are little more than a place of work for their staff and an advertising billboard for their brand. Never even heard of anyone going into them. So I'd agree it isn't really useful for anyone in the area.

Shlippery · 17-12-2020 3:47pm

Beersmith wrote: »

I've been involved in buying, selling, renting and never had to step into an estate agents physical premises. Thought those physical outlets would be a thing of the past. Can't imagine they are little more than a place of work for their staff and an advertising billboard for their brand. Never even heard of anyone going into them. So I'd agree it isn't really useful for anyone in the area.

As someone who'd like to buy in the next year or so, I do enjoy looking at these windows and getting instantly depressed at price tags beside pictures.

Beersmith · 17-12-2020 3:51pm

Shlippery wrote: »

As someone who'd like to buy in the next year or so, I do enjoy looking at these windows and getting instantly depressed at price tags beside pictures.

I think most would just use Daft.ie way better than looking through windows

dev_ire · 17-12-2020 11:23pm

Jerry Massive Viper wrote: »

Went over Broombridge earlier for the first time since it opened. It's a single lane bridge and cars are apparently only allowed over from the Cabra side towards Finglas, but there was a queue of cars waiting to come the other way. Are there no buses that use it yet, or is it just people ignoring the rules?

I think that was one way for years? I may or may not know someone who came up to it and had to cross, got lost from drumcondra on way to cabra with all the one ways in place so short of going further than broombridge or doubling back there is not a lot of options. That area needs a second bridge as I assume broombridge is protected so can't be widened.

18-12-2020 10:17am

dev_ire wrote: »

I think that was one way for years? I may or may not know someone who came up to it and had to cross, got lost from drumcondra on way to cabra with all the one ways in place so short of going further than broombridge or doubling back there is not a lot of options. That area needs a second bridge as I assume broombridge is protected so can't be widened.

There's lights on either side of the bridge now to control traffic, so while it is one lane you can cross from either side, but coming from the Finglas side apparently only buses and bikes are allowed over.

deep_dish · 18-12-2020 1:00pm

Beersmith wrote: »

I think most would just use Daft.ie way better than looking through windows

Exactly. With a bit of luck (and advancements in medical science) I'll be living in Phibsboro for at least another 150 years. If I set foot inside SherryFitz's door once in that time I'd be surprised.

Amirani · 18-12-2020 3:53pm

deep_dish wrote: »

Exactly. With a bit of luck (and advancements in medical science) I'll be living in Phibsboro for at least another 150 years. If I set foot inside SherryFitz's door once in that time I'd be surprised.

Fair play to ya.

Other people likely will use it though.

ooter · 18-12-2020 4:01pm

Jerry Massive Viper wrote: »

Went over Broombridge earlier for the first time since it opened. It's a single lane bridge and cars are apparently only allowed over from the Cabra side towards Finglas, but there was a queue of cars waiting to come the other way. Are there no buses that use it yet, or is it just people ignoring the rules?

Could be wrong but I think you can turn left on the finglas side on to that road but then can only turn left in to the industrial estate. You definitely can't drive all the way up over the bridge.

Muahahaha · 19-12-2020 9:19pm

ongarboy wrote: »

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/environment/phibsborough-residents-and-businesses-seek-change-to-busconnects-plans-for-village-1.4438899

Looks like Bus Connect plans for Phibsboro may be hitting a roadblock.

I get why they only want one lane in each direction through Doyles Corner. But the problem with that is the whole idea of Bus Connects is buses have a dedicated continous bus lane so they dont get stuck in traffic. Having them share a lane with cars through Phibsboro is only going to result in longer journey times, thus defeating the purpose of Bus Connects.

Its one of those situations where there is no clear answer because aside from CPOing and knocking buildings there just isnt the space there to make footpaths wider. While the desire for less traffic through Doyles Corner is understandable the other problem is it is a national primary route into the city and thats not changing anytime soon. All that traffic has to get into the city somehow, it cant just be diverted down residential streets to make the village quieter. Perhaps with Bus Connects and eventually the Luas extension car journey times will go up and more commuters living further out than Phibsboro may switch mode from car to bus or tram, that would be a good result for Phibsboro overall but its some way away yet.

05-01-2021 1:06pm

Any recommendations for primary schools in the area? Have been thinking about St Peters and the Educate Together in Stoneybatter/Smithfield, any thoughts on those or other schools? I'm not a million miles from the shopping centre so ideally would like to be in walking distance.

dubstarr · 05-01-2021 10:40pm

Jerry Massive Viper wrote: »

Any recommendations for primary schools in the area? Have been thinking about St Peters and the Educate Together in Stoneybatter/Smithfield, any thoughts on those or other schools? I'm not a million miles from the shopping centre so ideally would like to be in walking distance.

Theres an Educate together on Broombridge road in Cabra.

Also St Finbarrs as well.

ongarboy · 05-01-2021 10:57pm

The old 6 storey office block above Tesco (or tower as people who've never seen a skyscraper before refer to it as)looks set to be converted to co-living apartments.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/developer-in-late-bid-for-co-living-scheme-on-phibsborough-shopping-centre-site-1.4449345

Shlippery · 06-01-2021 12:08am

ongarboy wrote: »

The old 6 storey office block above Tesco (or tower as people who've never seen a skyscraper before refer to it as)looks set to be converted to co-living apartments.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/developer-in-late-bid-for-co-living-scheme-on-phibsborough-shopping-centre-site-1.4449345

I was devastated they don't put up the mad wall of yellow christmas lights on em this year :pac:

Thelonious Monk · 06-01-2021 11:45am

I think I'm one of the few people that likes that building. If they refurbed it and done it up it would look great.

niconline76 · 06-01-2021 12:20pm

I don’t mind the building too tbh. My issue is with the poor quality of most shops in that complex and probably an improvement is only possible with the redevelopment

tHE vAGGABOND · 06-01-2021 6:23pm

"Any recommendations for primary schools in the area? Have been thinking about St Peters and the Educate Together in Stoneybatter/Smithfield"

Have one in St Peters and its great. Cant speak highly enough about it.

07-01-2021 6:44pm

tHE vAGGABOND wrote: »

"Any recommendations for primary schools in the area? Have been thinking about St Peters and the Educate Together in Stoneybatter/Smithfield"

Have one in St Peters and its great. Cant speak highly enough about it.

Cool thanks. That's the closest one to us so would be very handy.

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

I think I'm one of the few people that likes that building. If they refurbed it and done it up it would look great.

I don't really care about the tower itself but everything around it is pretty awful, which is why for me this is for sure what I care most about:

A civic space linking Phibsborough Road to the North Circular Road with access to Dalymount Park football stadium would also be created as part of the development. Dublin City Council, which owns Dalymount, plans a €20 million upgrade to convert it to a 10,000-seater stadium.

Thelonious Monk · 07-01-2021 10:17pm

Yes being able to see Bohs in a decent stadium one day would be nice, before I did. Seems like it's been talked about since I'm a child.

Strumms · 08-01-2021 5:17am

Thelonious Monk wrote: »

Yes being able to see Bohs in a decent stadium one day would be nice, before I did. Seems like it's been talked about since I'm a child.

Every time they try and get that going something happens, recessions, covid etc....

Construction was due to begin shortly I believe with 2023 as the completion date, I’d say that’s more like ‘24 now. Open to correction but....

niconline76 · 08-01-2021 4:20pm

Strumms wrote: »

Every time they try and get that going something happens, recessions, covid etc....

Construction was due to begin shortly I believe with 2023 as the completion date, I’d say that’s more like ‘24 now. Open to correction but....

has the dispute MM/Tesco been resolved finally and officially ?

L1011 · 09-01-2021 7:59pm

There's an altered access plan that keeps Tesco on-side now, apparently.

07-02-2021 3:04pm

Have been keeping an eye on houses that go up for sale in Phibsborough/D7 and this one seems a bit mad. It's a nice house and all but the asking is absolutely nuts. Seems way above asking for similar places.

mvt · 07-02-2021 3:41pm

That's a super road,would say the house is too- not sure about the price but houses like that have their own appeal & will probably go for close to it.

dubstarr · 07-02-2021 4:38pm

Jerry Massive Viper wrote: »

Have been keeping an eye on houses that go up for sale in Phibsborough/D7 and this one seems a bit mad. It's a nice house and all but the asking is absolutely nuts. Seems way above asking for similar places.

Eye watering price but you could just move right in.Nothing needs doing.

micar · 07-02-2021 4:40pm

dubstarr wrote: »

Eye watering price but you could just move right in.Nothing needs doing.

Exactly.

Only thing I'd do is replace the tiles in the bathroom.

eastwest · 07-02-2021 5:29pm

Jerry Massive Viper wrote: »

Have been keeping an eye on houses that go up for sale in Phibsborough/D7 and this one seems a bit mad. It's a nice house and all but the asking is absolutely nuts. Seems way above asking for similar places.

A bit pricey, but looks like up to 200k spent on it. Attic room also looks like it's properly done with fire-stopped door, but that's a guess from the photo, hard to be sure -- otherwise it's just a storeroom and can't be used as a room.
A good location either way, and may not be dear compared to buying a fixer-upper.

deep_dish · 08-02-2021 12:22pm

That is a lovely house, and Shandon is a lovely area, but renovations or not that is a crazy price for a home in Phibsboro.

14-02-2021 8:14pm

Just on the above, I wasn't suggesting it wasn't a nice house or nice road, it is just unbelievably expensive and way beyond what I've seen market watching over the last few years. If they find a buyer for that price, good luck to them.

I also just found out today there's plans/an application in for a pile of apartments basically between the canal and Leinster St on that derelict site. Sounds like a good idea to me?

Alvin Holler · 14-02-2021 11:22pm

https://www.crossgunsshd.ie/

Details here.

deep_dish · 15-02-2021 11:50am

I thought it seemed like a good use of the space but I said I'd hold off on making my mind up until the crew from Bang Bang shared their views as I knew they would delve a bit deeper into it and, as I suspected, the day after the announcement they shared this on Facebook;

Plans for the old mill just beside the shop....atrocious altogether with 205 apartments 12 stories high and NOT ONE FOR SALE....
All lease only and €1750 for a 1 bed...surely this stuff has to stop...Dublin is being destroyed by those who profit from housing...

Build homes people can buy/afford and keep the (Palestinian) flag &#55357;&#56396;&#55356;&#57339;

*55 Studios
*85 One Bed
*65 Two Bed

As part of the application the developer has provided indicative market rents of €1,400 for the studio apartment and €1,750 for the one bed apartments.

smeal · 15-02-2021 12:38pm

Great to see the new Filo café doing well. Queues are out the door most lunch times.

Good coffee and lovely pastries although the latter are perhaps a bit over priced.

15-02-2021 12:55pm

deep_dish wrote: »

I thought it seemed like a good use of the space but I said I'd hold off on making my mind up until the crew from Bang Bang shared their views as I knew they would delve a bit deeper into it and, as I suspected, the day after the announcement they shared this on Facebook;

Plans for the old mill just beside the shop....atrocious altogether with 205 apartments 12 stories high and NOT ONE FOR SALE....
All lease only and €1750 for a 1 bed...surely this stuff has to stop...Dublin is being destroyed by those who profit from housing...

Build homes people can buy/afford and keep the (Palestinian) flag ��

*55 Studios
*85 One Bed
*65 Two Bed

As part of the application the developer has provided indicative market rents of €1,400 for the studio apartment and €1,750 for the one bed apartments.

I don't want to turn this into the housing crisis thread but I have become convinced it not the Govt or DCC but the citizenry of Dublin who are the ultimate cause of our woes by objecting to every bloody development going. People object, local and national reps row in behind because they want votes, nothing gets done. We need supply, supply, supply. I'm fairly sick of Bang Bang tbh. Happy enough to speak to Pascal Donohoe when they want Dalymount redeveloped I'm sure.

smeal wrote: »

Great to see the new Filo café doing well. Queues are out the door most lunch times.

Good coffee and lovely pastries although the latter are perhaps a bit over priced.

I was in earlier actually, 2x pastries and 2x coffees was over 13 quid which isn't cheap but everything was nice. Wouldn't be getting it every day but the odd treat. Also glad to see it doing well.

aquinn · 15-02-2021 1:29pm

smeal wrote: »

Great to see the new Filo café doing well. Queues are out the door most lunch times.

Good coffee and lovely pastries although the latter are perhaps a bit over priced.

Yes, great to see and seem to have a lovely selection. My main issue though is the queue as it means going out on to the road to avoid people. Would be great if they could queue around the corner so then I don't get hit by a bus or taxi. Road surface there shocking also.

tHE vAGGABOND · 23-02-2021 6:22pm

"Build homes people can buy/afford and keep.."

I saw that tweet, and my first thought was that Bang Bang are happy to charge 8/9 quid for a brunch burger [aka Bacon and Egg roll!!] but on the other side are fighting for the common man

We need places for folks to live - the government are not doing ****, and thus private companies doing it are all that we have right now. That mill is an eye sore, and its a great spot for an apartment development.

Huzzah! · 25-02-2021 9:08am

tHE vAGGABOND wrote: »

"Build homes people can buy/afford and keep.."

I saw that tweet, and my first thought was that Bang Bang are happy to charge 8/9 quid for a brunch burger [aka Bacon and Egg roll!!] but on the other side are fighting for the common man

We need places for folks to live - the government are not doing ****, and thus private companies doing it are all that we have right now. That mill is an eye sore, and its a great spot for an apartment development.

They pay above the living wage, though, so I guess they need to charge accordingly.

I have mixed views about the development. No real problems with it going where it's planned but the proposed rents are eye watering.

Beersmith · 25-02-2021 11:34am

But if people are willing to pay that then that means more housing for others and hence less pressure on rent and lower rent in the long run. If people don't pay what their asking then they will have to lower them. I don't see the problem really. No one is forced to rent them but its more property available.

deep_dish · 25-02-2021 12:40pm

I think it's that these are not long-term options for people that want to house or raise a family in the area. We are not building enough of these types of dwellings in the city. With almost all recent big builds of this nature, if they're not student accommodation they are small flats which will be lease only, forever.

Shlippery · 25-02-2021 12:57pm

smeal wrote: »

Great to see the new Filo café doing well. Queues are out the door most lunch times.

Good coffee and lovely pastries although the latter are perhaps a bit over priced.

Reckon they're linked to Yeeros next door? They seem to share the Greek theme - great to see them do well though!

KnicksInSix · 26-02-2021 1:04am

aquinn wrote: »

Yes, great to see and seem to have a lovely selection. My main issue though is the queue as it means going out on to the road to avoid people. Would be great if they could queue around the corner so then I don't get hit by a bus or taxi. Road surface there shocking also.

The queue thing there is crazy especially at that junction. It was mobbed last Sunday, surely people can organise themselves a bit better. On the flip side I'm glad it's doing well.

I didn't realise the Old Mill was lease only, kinda gutted to read it tbh. I had thought it would be a nice place that we could potentially buy into because we love the location. Guess not.

tHE vAGGABOND · 26-02-2021 12:37pm

I didn't realise the Old Mill was lease only, kinda gutted to read it tbh. I had thought it would be a nice place that we could potentially buy into because we love the location. Guess not.

Live down the road from it, and have had two things in the door now; folks with a "object to everything" approach clearly IMHO; I know one of the people is active in local SF and has lead objections to several building items over last few years [Not NIMBY's but BANANA's "Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere]-

- but one of the things they are lobbying to get people to object over is the buy to let approach - so it might get turned around in planning. You never know.

26-02-2021 1:19pm

tHE vAGGABOND wrote: »

Live down the road from it, and have had two things in the door now; folks with a "object to everything" approach clearly IMHO; I know one of the people is active in local SF and has lead objections to several building items over last few years [Not NIMBY's but BANANA's "Build Absolutely Nothing Anywhere]-

- but one of the things they are lobbying to get people to object over is the buy to let approach - so it might get turned around in planning. You never know.

They're objecting to some nonsense stuff as well, like the width of the entrance to the car park. Why on earth would anyone in the local area care about that? BANANAs is right.

petejmk · 26-02-2021 3:50pm

Jerry Massive Viper wrote: »

They're objecting to some nonsense stuff as well, like the width of the entrance to the car park. Why on earth would anyone in the local area care about that? BANANAs is right.

Live very close and the residents aren't opposed to the development of the site; just inappropriate development. This is one of only two sites listed in the Dublin City Development Plan where specific building heights are listed to take account of the character of the surrounding area. The proposed height exceeds that included in the development plan.

The other site is the old Smurfit grounds on Botanic Road. A SHD was also proposed for there and one of the grounds for rejection by ABP was the building height exceeding the development plan limit.

As for the width of the entrance to the car park, the issue outlined by residents in their document is that it's a single lane entrance already being by another adjacent development. No pedestrian or cycle path included for a development which will be primarily accessed by pedestrians and cyclists given the limited parking available within the proposed development.

Carapop · 26-02-2021 4:53pm

Hi all, can anyone tell me about this area please? I've always lived south of the liffey but considering buying north...would love some expertise input! All guidance appreciated

https://www.daft.ie/for-sale/apartment-apartment-32-wellington-court-dublin-7/2541501

Phibsborough, Dublin 7

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