Why the sudden hysteria over climate change?

Charles Ingles wrote: »

I'm a fifth generation farmer I know a lot about the land and the weather

If true then you should be very familiar with the smell of the sh.te you are coming out with.

Sure, if there’s no problem can we all consume as much crap as possible and dump it on your land. You don’t seem to want it to be there for the next 5 generations anyway.

ok.
So global warming will cause the ice in Greenland and points north to melt. This will release a bit of freshwater in to the north Atlantic.
This will then head south into the Atlantic driving the Gulf Stream south. Which will cause our climate to be similar to other area on the plant on the latitude as areas that do not have the benefit of the warming effects of the gulf stream.
Have a look at those places !
There are multiple possible outcomes from this. not to many are good.
But the Gulf stream shifting is pretty much guaranteed.

Because it's easy to get idiots into mass panic! Simples.

Deleted User wrote: »

OK, so what would differ?

Am - How do you mean?

I won't argue about the merits of whether or not climate change is real, is preventable or otherwise by consumption and peoples behaviour, or much else on the validity of the theory. I know feck all about the subject, but I guarantee you one thing, the extreme majority of people who hold steadfast beliefs on the matter also don't really know! We see children rolled out now as experts on the subject, children!

Personally when I consider this sort of conundrum I think to myself, what's the upside v downside? Even if climate change is pure BS in the end would lower emissions make for cleaner air and make most places that bit better to live in? Probably. However, are there downsides to the environment in these endeavours e.g. wind turbines? Also yes. I'm open minded about doing the right thing to limit the damage I personally do to the environment, but I'm very sceptical about the motivation and proposed theories put forward by global think tanks and governments over the likes of carbon taxes and the topic in general. It smacks of fleecing the public and promoting certain political agendas.

You might notice that it's frequently lefty types who are pushing the climate change narrative at a rate of maximum urgency now. There are now agreements in place (in the UN accord I believe) that specify that climate change is a legitimate reason for refugee status from places like Africa. The loose theory on the result of this, in places like the US for example:

1. Promote climate change as a valid theory
2. Request refugee status for Africans
3. Bring refugees into your country
4. Permit refugees to have significant welfare programs
5. Those minority groups will vote for your party
6. Keep the minorities on welfare
7. Repeat of step 5
8. Demographics build up so that they now need you and your party is virtually assured of continued power due to the numbers game.
9. Big government wins

Parties where big government is preferred love climate change rallies, it's no coincidence. There's also the concept of reducing your intake of meat. Reduction of meat consumption would massively impact on rural societies and bring people into more urban environments, again where more liberal agendas flourish and people are more easily controlled by these issues.

The fact like morons like Octavio-Cortes in the states telling us we have 12 years to save the world does not convince me. It's just the latest source of rage after gay marriage and abortion became the norm.

I think people are starting to experience strange weather and when its something you can see or feel its very real to you.

ligerdub wrote: »

You might notice that it's frequently lefty types who are pushing the climate change narrative at a rate of maximum urgency now. There are now agreements in place (in the UN accord I believe) that specify that climate change is a legitimate reason for refugee status from places like Africa.

Western countries are the biggest polluters, so it makes perfect sense to flood the West with poor African migrants so they can pollute as much as we do.

Hang on... that doesn't make any sense.

Climate change will regulate itself when we've burnt all the oil and gas ....the bigger issue is the growth of population on the planet and how that's going to be reined in ....

Because 20-30 years ago doubting climate change was still a valid and legitimate scientific opinion to have. However it's no longer tenable. While you could say before "maybe it won't happen at all", we now know it will happen, and the extent is on the upper end of what was first predicted. It was only around the year 2000 that it all fell apart for the climate change doubters and they either converted or a small fraction became "denialists".

The world will end in 12 yrs, prepare yourselves.

As Twain said, it's easiier to fool a person than it is to convince them that they've been fooled.

Charles Ingles wrote: »

Fear and control only works on the people when you offer them the hope of redemption
Hence why I call it the climate change cult

I actually think climate change denialism is much more cultist.

Charles Ingles wrote: »

I've watched 40 years of this climate change nonsense.
Academics justifying their existence end governments using it as a way to introduce new taxes.
Carbon taxes will fix the world,, ye right
Man hasn't been around long enough and records don't go back far enough, who cause the last ice age??
Nobody, the earth will regulate itself with the helping hand ofGod

You had me till the last line

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Its not hysteria.

"We have 12 years to limit climate change catastrophe"
UN

"I don't want your hope. I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fear I do. Every day."
Greta Thunberg

“A gradual rise in average sea level is threatening to completely cover this Indian Ocean nation of 1196 small islands within the next 30 years,”
AFP, September 1988.


Even NASA scientist feels it is a bit much

biko wrote: »

"We have 12 years to limit climate change catastrophe"
UN

"I don't want your hope. I want you to panic. I want you to feel the fear I do. Every day."
Greta Thunberg

“A gradual rise in average sea level is threatening to completely cover this Indian Ocean nation of 1196 small islands within the next 30 years,”
AFP, September 1988.


Even NASA scientist feels it is a bit much

Which definition are you applying to hysteria? Fear is not an emotion so I doubt it’s the first.

hysteria
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noun
1.
exaggerated or uncontrollable emotion or excitement.
"the anti-Semitic hysteria of the 1890s"
synonyms: frenzy, wildness, feverishness, irrationality; More
2.
an old-fashioned term for a psychological disorder characterized by conversion of psychological stress into physical symptoms (somatization) or a change in self-awareness (such as a fugue state or selective amnesia).