Three year old injured in acid attack in UK

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-07-2018 2:52am

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Either way knives have been removed from display in Swedish stores. Draw your own conclusion

Nevermind Swedish home decor, actual 'men' have been removed from Sweden's largest rock festival following a string of sexual assault reports at other festivals in the country.

It was announced that Bråvalla, Sweden's largest one, would not be taking place in 2018 after police received reports of four rapes and 23 sexual assaults at 2017's event. In future it will be 'man-free'.

dav3 · 23-07-2018 6:27am

Stephen15 wrote: »

So if acid attacks aren't something that's being introduced by third world migrants then how come you only hear of acid attacks in the UK and other culturally enriched countries in the West and not countries which are overhimingly homogenous like Poland and Hungary.

We do. Perhaps you should try getting your news from a range of different sources rather than the same one constantly telling you that dark skinned johnny foreigners are coming to get you.

This is literally from a 2 second google search.

https://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/515172/british-welsh-stag-do-krakow-poland-acid-attack

The 36-year-old and his friend headed into the toilet of the filthy place before deciding to leave because the facilities were covered in faeces.

But then the bar owner and a girl that worked there followed the group and chucked the corrosive liquid over them.

http://www.euronews.com/2017/03/10/jail-term-doubled-for-hospital-chief-s-acid-attack-on-ex-lover

A doctor who attacked his ex-lover with acid has had his jail term doubled by Hungary’s appeal court.

Hungary’s public prosecutor’s office had initially dropped the charges against B.K, who is a relative of a prominent politician of the ruling Fidesz party.

inforfun · 23-07-2018 12:20pm

4 people arrested for this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44921479

xzanti · 23-07-2018 2:45pm

inforfun wrote: »

4 people arrested for this.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44921479

It's a pity some vigilantes didn't get to them first.

inforfun · 23-07-2018 2:57pm

Yeah well.... it happened in a DIY store so no shortage of stuff to beat the living **** out of them.
But then you probably end up longer behind bars than these *****

Lux23 · 23-07-2018 3:48pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

So if acid attacks aren't something that's being introduced by third world migrants then how come you only hear of acid attacks in the UK and other culturally enriched countries in the West and not countries which are overhimingly homogenous like Poland and Hungary.

Poland - https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/1175150/pictured-stag-do-reveller-scarred-for-life-after-having-acid-thrown-in-his-face-by-woman-in-a-bar/

Hungary - http://abouthungary.hu/news-in-brief/police-investigate-acid-attack-which-injured-four-people-in-budapests-party-district/

Not defending it, but it happens in other countries like Cambodia and Columbia too - I don't believe they have many Muslim immigrants?

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-07-2018 3:58pm

Lux23 wrote: »

Poland - https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/1175150/pictured-stag-do-reveller-scarred-for-life-after-having-acid-thrown-in-his-face-by-woman-in-a-bar/

Hungary - http://abouthungary.hu/news-in-brief/police-investigate-acid-attack-which-injured-four-people-in-budapests-party-district/

Not defending it, but it happens in other countries like Cambodia and Columbia too - I don't believe they have many Muslim immigrants?

Yes happens in other third world countries (Columbia is largely a lawless state, but even there they have introduced 50yr sentences for this) 21st century London is now considered to be the acid attack capital of the world (per capita) and even NYC (inc The Bronx/Brooklyn) has lower (non-homicide) crime rates than London.

No one there is safe from London's (gang related) moped crime gangs. London saw 16,000 moped attacks in 2017 while scooter-related crime is up 1,000 per cent in three years across the UK.

Lux23 · 23-07-2018 3:59pm

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

Yes happens in other third world countries (Columbia is largely a lawless state), but 21st century London is now considered to be the acid attack capital of the world (per capita) and even NYC (inc The Bronx/Brooklyn) has lower non-homicide crime rates than london.

No one there is safe from London's (gang related) moped crime gangs. London saw 16,000 moped attacks in 2017 while scooter-related crime is up 1,000 per cent in three years across the UK.

Are Poland and Hungary third-world countries? And Stephen's argument was that it was caused by immigration from under-developed countries?

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-07-2018 4:03pm

Lux23 wrote: »

Are Poland and Hungary third-world countries?

Nope, do they have comparable levels to x500 or so acid attacks per year as the (8m) in London?

Do they suffer 16,000 moped attacks (mainly robbery of the person) during 2017 on a population of just 8m, across their entire countries?

// Also it may well have started via migrants from SE Asia (Bang/India/Pak), it does seems to have spread as any other multi-cultural trend may do. Not a valuble contribution however.

Lux23 · 23-07-2018 4:07pm

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

Nope, do they have comparable levels to x500 or so acid attacks per year as the (8m) in London?

Do they suffer 16,000 moped attacks (mainly robbery of the person) during 2017 on a population of just 8m, across their entire countries?

No idea, but the original post I responded to said, "So if acid attacks aren't something that's being introduced by third world migrants then how come you only hear of acid attacks in the UK and other culturally enriched countries in the West and not countries which are overhimingly (SIC) homogenous like Poland and Hungary."

There are some really good statistics at the link below which show that it is a crime perpetrated by men and women of all races. I think it paints a far more complex and worrying situation then "blame it on the immigrants, innit".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/5d38c003-c54a-4513-a369-f9eae0d52f91

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-07-2018 4:13pm

Lux23 wrote: »

No idea

Exactly, it's very unlikely it's anywhere near the scale per capita as either London, or the UK as a whole.

Lux23 wrote: »

how come you only hear of acid attacks in the UK and other culturally enriched countries in the West and not countries which are overhimingly (SIC) homogenous like Poland and Hungary."

The UK is far more multicultural than Hungry or Poland. In this globally new connected world - if just 10,000 moped attacks, or 300 acid attacks in 1yr occured in Warsaw, one would have read about it ny now.

Yes it's likely to have been introduced by migrants, but indeed has become common place now among all variants of crime gangs now.

Captain Obvious · 23-07-2018 4:15pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

So if acid attacks aren't something that's being introduced by third world migrants then how come you only hear of acid attacks in the UK and other culturally enriched countries in the West and not countries which are overhimingly homogenous like Poland and Hungary.

Was there not a story of an acid attack against a Garda by an eastern European gang in the last couple of weeks?

Lux23 · 23-07-2018 4:19pm

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

Exactly, it's very unlikely it's anywhere near the scale per capita as either London, or the UK as a whole.

The UK is far more multicultural than Hungry or Poland. In this globally new connected world - if just 10,000 moped attacks, or 300 acid attacks in 1yr occured in Warsaw, one would have read about it ny now.

Yes it's likely to have been introduced by migrants, but indeed has become common place now among all variants of crime gangs now.

Well no that isn't quite true - re-introduced maybe but they have a longer history than you would imagine.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/feb/11/acid-attacks-victorian-britain

Blazer · 23-07-2018 4:20pm

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

Exactly, it's very unlikely it's anywhere near the scale per capita as either London, or the UK as a whole.

The UK is far more multicultural than Hungry or Poland. In this globally new connected world - if just 10,000 moped attacks, or 300 acid attacks in 1yr occured in Warsaw, one would have read about it ny now.

Yes it's likely to have been introduced by migrants, but indeed has become common place now among all variants of crime gangs now.

All those gangs are going to get an awful shock next year with Brexit when the UK no longer has to be follow the EU Court of justice etc.
I predict they’ll crap down massively on these gangs and hard, very hard.
At least I hope so.

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-07-2018 4:21pm

Lux23 wrote: »

Well no that isn't quite true - re-introduced maybe but they have a longer history than you would imagine.

Yes you could probably well compare Victorian Britan to some of today's more medieval orientated modern countries.

Lux23 · 23-07-2018 4:22pm

Blazer wrote: »

All those gangs are going to get an awful shock next year with Brexit when the UK no longer has to be follow the EU Court of justice etc.
I predict they’ll crap down massively on these gangs and hard, very hard.
At least I hope so.

I doubt that will make very little difference.

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-07-2018 4:23pm

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Was there not a story of an acid attack against a Garda by an eastern European gang in the last couple of weeks?

There was 1 report, correct.

But was there 294 AA's across Ireland (4.7) in 2017?
(That's the comparable ratio of London's (8m) with 500 AA's).

There's not many moped's in Ireland, and the thought of 10,000 or so (per annum) ratio of moped attacks on the person isn't a pleasent idea neither.

Lux23 · 23-07-2018 4:27pm

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

Yes you could probably well compare Victorian Britan to some of today's more medieval orientated modern countries.

Just say Muslim mate, we know what group of people you're trying to tar with all the same brush.

Blazer · 23-07-2018 4:28pm

Lux23 wrote: »

I doubt that will make very little difference.

Well the European court of human rights has a lot to blame for criminal rights. It’s been right there at the start of the softly softly approach toward criminals for fear of trampling on their human rights.

Now imagine if Boris Johnson makes PM and does a hard Brexit.
They’re no longer bound by the EU so if you want to attract visitors to the UK you want to guarantee their safety.
It’s very easy . Major major crackdown on all gangs.
Big prison sentences for scumbags and extreme predujice towards them.
Of course this could have a negative impact if they took the same approach at the border we’re looking at.

Captain Obvious · 23-07-2018 4:30pm

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

There was 1 report, correct.

But was there 294 AA's across Ireland (4.7) in 2017?
(That's the comparable ratio of London's (8m) with 500 AA's).

There's not many moped's in Ireland, and the thought of 10,000 or so (per annum) ratio of moped attacks on the person isn't a pleasent idea neither.

So you used the word "only" incorrectly. And the reference to homogeneous countries in Eastern Europe seems a little off seeing as how that appears to have been who did the attack here.

tuxy · 23-07-2018 4:31pm

Blazer wrote: »

. Major major crackdown on all gangs.
Big prison sentences for scumbags and extreme predujice towards them.

If this does not work in the US what would make it work in the UK?

Lux23 · 23-07-2018 4:40pm

Blazer wrote: »

Well the European court of human rights has a lot to blame for criminal rights. It’s been right there at the start of the softly softly approach toward criminals for fear of trampling on their human rights.

Now imagine if Boris Johnson makes PM and does a hard Brexit.
They’re no longer bound by the EU so if you want to attract visitors to the UK you want to guarantee their safety.
It’s very easy . Major major crackdown on all gangs.
Big prison sentences for scumbags and extreme predujice towards them.
Of course this could have a negative impact if they took the same approach at the border we’re looking at.

Except the UK has fought very few cases in the European Court of Justice (less than 6 per year) and it tends to win them, so what would change exactly? And what big cases have criminal gangs won against the UK at the ECJ? Or are you perhaps thinking about the European Court of Human Rights (ECtHR) which has nothing to do with the European Union and more likely to hear cases in the context you're talking about?

Odhinn · 23-07-2018 4:48pm

Blazer wrote: »

All those gangs are going to get an awful shock next year with Brexit when the UK no longer has to be follow the EU Court of justice etc.
I predict they’ll crap down massively on these gangs and hard, very hard.
At least I hope so.

That's a rather tabloidy view of things.

Blazer · 23-07-2018 5:31pm

Odhinn wrote: »

That's a rather tabloidy view of things.

Yeah it is alright. But the whole softly approach has failed miserably.
I’m all for rehabilitation but it’s a 2 way street.

Odhinn · 23-07-2018 5:49pm

Blazer wrote: »

Yeah it is alright. But the whole softly approach has failed miserably.
I’m all for rehabilitation but it’s a 2 way street.

Not where its actually been tried.

There's nothing 'soft' about the British approach.

23-07-2018 6:41pm

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

I dont see any difference between using a gun and throwing acid on someone.

Pure scum. I hope they are all caught and never see the light of day again.

At least with being shot you may not have to live with the terrible consequences.

This is a whole new level of low. There are just no words good enough to describe this evil. 3 years old....:( Sickening

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-07-2018 6:46pm

Lux23 wrote: »

Just say Muslim mate, we know what group of people you're trying to tar with all the same brush.

It's simply a direct result of multiculturalism, specifically a trend carried from SE Asia, that's all. You take the good benefits, and also the bad aspects that go with it, that's life.

Meanwhile you're trying to blame the recent phonenomon on a (bygone age) of Victorian London (1837-1901), go one mate, just say it's all down to them 'Victorian Londoners', tar all them Victorians why don't you.

Captain Obvious · 23-07-2018 7:05pm

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

It's simply a direct result of multiculturalism, specifically a trend carried from SE Asia, that's all.

What are you basing this on? It seems to go against the facts of the actual incidents. They are often gang attacks. The targets are generally men. It is more often used in place of a weapon to commit a crime. The high profile cases have not been committed by men from the communities you refer to.

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-07-2018 7:40pm

Captain Obvious wrote: »

What are you basing this on? It seems to go against the facts of the actual incidents. They are often gang attacks. The targets are generally men. It is more often used in place of a weapon to commit a crime. The high profile cases have not been committed by men from the communities you refer to.

You refer to only to some 'very recent incidents' and 'selective high profile' attacks. On what basis are you concuding that these attacks are:

i) Over the last 5/10yrs, a homogeneous event and just a part and parcel of everyday 20th/21st century English heritage?
ii) An established part and parcel of London's decades long cultural fabric?
ii) Or otherwise traditionally a 'British thing'?

Since the 1990s, Bangladesh has been reporting the highest number of attacks and highest incidence rates particularly for women, with 3,512 Bangladeshi people acid attacked between 1999 and 2013.

In Pakistan and India acid attacks are at an all-time high and increasing every year. Although acid attacks occur all over the world, this type of violence is most common in South Asia. (CNN report from 2010).

The UK has one of the highest rates of acid attacks per capita in the world, according to Acid Survivors Trust International (ASTI).

In 2016 there were over 601 acid attacks in the UK based on ASTI figures. Over 1,200 cases were recorded over the past 5 years. From 2011-2016 there were 1,464 crimes involving acid or corrosive substance in London alone.

According to researchers and activists, countries typically associated with acid assault include Bangladesh, India, Nepal, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, China, United Kingdom, Kenya, South Africa, Uganda, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Ethiopia.

As you can see a clear SE Asia trend, with the UK the only Western modern country that appears near the top of these lists. Just bad luck is it?

Captain Obvious · 23-07-2018 7:44pm

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

You refer to only to some 'very recent incidents' and 'selective high profile' attacks. On what basis are you concuding that these attacks are:

i) Over the last 5/10yrs, a homogeneous event and just a part and parcel of everyday 20th/21st century English heritage?
ii) An established part and parcel of London's decades long cultural fabric?
ii) Or otherwise traditionally a 'British thing'?

I never made any of those claims.

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

Since the 1990s, Bangladesh has been reporting the highest number of attacks and highest incidence rates particularly for women, with 3,512 Bangladeshi people acid attacked between 1999 and 2013.

In Pakistan and India acid attacks are at an all-time high and increasing every year. Although acid attacks occur all over the world, this type of violence is most common in South Asia. (CNN report from 2010).

The UK has one of the highest rates of acid attacks per capita in the world, according to Acid Survivors Trust International (ASTI).

In 2016 there were over 601 acid attacks in the UK based on ASTI figures. Over 1,200 cases were recorded over the past 5 years. From 2011-2016 there were 1,464 crimes involving acid or corrosive substance in London alone.

According to researchers and activists, countries typically associated with acid assault include Bangladesh, India, Nepal, Cambodia, Vietnam, Laos, China, United Kingdom, Kenya, South Africa, Uganda, Pakistan, Afghanistan and Ethiopia.

As you can see a clear SE Asia trend, with the UK the only Western modern country that appears near the top of these lists. Just bad luck is it?

You're not showing any kind of causal link though. Are people convicted of these crimes in the UK mostly from the countries you name?

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-07-2018 7:58pm

Captain Obvious wrote: »

I never made any of those claims.

You certainly did imply those claims, by repetivitely claiming the majority (very recent figures only) are carried out by and/or upon white males. Sounds like you're backtracking now.

Captain Obvious wrote: »

You're not showing any kind of causal link though. Are people convicted of these crimes in the UK mostly from the countries you name?

Conviction rates as you know, are very low, and often unreported due to the specificly cowardly nature of the attacks.

Are you denying there may be a casual link to the epicentre (Newham, 2017), which has a 'white british' population (projected for 2016) of just 13%.
Yes thirteen percent. But does have a very very high population from SE Asia. Head, sand, much?

Captain Obvious · 23-07-2018 8:06pm

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

You certainly did imply those claims, by repetivitely claiming the majority (very recent figures only) are carried out by and/or upon white males. Sounds like you're backtracking now.

Not what I was implying at all. Not even close. You're making some major leaps from what I said to what you claim I said. I think they call that a strawman.

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

Conviction rates as you know, are very low, and often unreported due to the specificly cowardly nature of the attacks.

Are you denying there may be a casual link to the epicentre (Newham, 2017), which has a 'white british' population (projected for 2016) of just 13%.
Yes thirteen percent. But does have a very very high population from SE Asia. Head, sand, much?

So you have no actual evidence of cause and effect. It's a "dogs on the street" kind of thing. Are there any experts or authorities that support your link?

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-07-2018 8:50pm

Captain Obvious wrote: »

So you have no actual evidence of cause and effect. It's a "dogs on the street" kind of thing. Are there any experts or authorities that support your link?

Unless you're living under a rock and in complete denial you might be able to deny the links to SE Asia.

There are plenty of stats above if you care to get some reading glasses on. Not to mention common sense. Hundred of reports all within public domain, try the Google search machine for a start, any reputable newspaper will suffice also.

Any evidence from yourself that these types of events, their rise over the last decade, all stem from the nautural cultural fabric of Britain/London. That the hundreds of attacks per year are just a natural, almost acceptable or 'to be expected' development of the British way of life?

Either you believe that is the case, or you don't?

Please don't insult our intelligence by (lazily) referring to the Victorian 1837-1901 ages again. Or singlular, recent, celeb/high profile events.

Taytoland · 23-07-2018 8:56pm

What needs to happen is find the nearest large oak tree and hang them. Job done.

Captain Obvious · 23-07-2018 9:05pm

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

Unless you're living under a rock and in complete denial you might be able to deny the links to SE Asia.

But you haven't shown any links. In fact, the same figures you rely on to prove your claim could also be used to prove that white nationalists are targeting people in these communities. It's just weak circumstantial evidence of a link.

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

There are plenty of stats above if you care to get some reading glasses on. Not to mention common sense. Hundred of reports all within public domain, try the Google search machine for a start, any reputable newspaper will suffice also.

Why should I look for proof of your claim? That's your job.

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

Any evidence from yourself that these types of events, their rise over the last decade, all stem from the nautural cultural fabric of Britain/London. That the hundreds of attacks per year are just a natural, almost acceptable or 'to be expected' development of the British way of life?

Either you believe that is the case, or you don't?

Again, not a claim I have made.

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

Please don't insult our intelligence by (lazily) referring to the Victorian 1837-1901 ages again. Or singlular, recent, celeb/high profile events.

So ignore the high profile cases that we know the facts of because they disprove your theory.

4068ac1elhodqr · 23-07-2018 9:16pm

Captain Obvious wrote: »

Again, not a claim I have made.
.

What exactly are you claiming?

Sounds like you're implying this is just a natural English/London traditional, and to be expected. Are you denying there is any other cultural aspect to it?

So Captain Obvious, (aside from being an Obvious Captian of illogical denial, and time wasting), please do tell us (in your opinion) but do also provide proof if you care to:

- The reason for the emmergence of this phonenomon in the UK?
- Why Newham (13% white british) is the 2017 epicentre? Just a coincidence?
- A Brief summary of the cultural/historical aspect, behind this activity and the hotspots worldwide where it occurs?

Feel free to contact ASTI if you need assistance in your research, tally ho.

Stephen15 · 24-07-2018 12:10am

Not blaming acid attacks on third world migrants is like not blaming the guillotine on the French. It's something that is brought to Britain in the same way the Brits brought opium to China

Timberrrrrrrr · 24-07-2018 6:39am

Stephen15 wrote: »

Not blaming acid attacks on third world migrants is like not blaming the guillotine on the French. It's something that is brought to Britain in the same way the Brits brought opium to China

Blaming acid attacks on third world migrants is like blaming the chinese for gun crime.

Captain Obvious · 24-07-2018 7:16am

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

What exactly are you claiming?

Sounds like you're implying this is just a natural English/London traditional, and to be expected. Are you denying there is any other cultural aspect to it?

So Captain Obvious, (aside from being an Obvious Captian of illogical denial, and time wasting), please do tell us (in your opinion) but do also provide proof if you care to:

- The reason for the emmergence of this phonenomon in the UK?
- Why Newham (13% white british) is the 2017 epicentre? Just a coincidence?
- A Brief summary of the cultural/historical aspect, behind this activity and the hotspots worldwide where it occurs?

Feel free to contact ASTI if you need assistance in your research, tally ho.

I think it emerged because knife crime was heavily targeted at the start of the last decade. Some gangs started using acid instead because there were legislative issues around prosecuting people for possessing it and using it was considered GBH rather than attempted murder. Now with the decimation of the police force by the tories, both knife crime and acid attacks have risen dramatically.

Lux23 · 24-07-2018 9:53am

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

It's simply a direct result of multiculturalism, specifically a trend carried from SE Asia, that's all. You take the good benefits, and also the bad aspects that go with it, that's life.

Meanwhile you're trying to blame the recent phonenomon on a (bygone age) of Victorian London (1837-1901), go one mate, just say it's all down to them 'Victorian Londoners', tar all them Victorians why don't you.

Interesting that you completely ignored the other statistics I shared with you. Acid throwing is a gang-related crime and it is not one that is currently linked to any particular race in London.

38% of Afro-Carribean, 32% are white, 6% are Asian, 2% are dark European, 1% and another 1% are Chinese/Thai etc. So the group you're trying to blame are one of the smallest group of perpetrators.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/5d38c003-c54a-4513-a369-f9eae0d52f91

4068ac1elhodqr · 24-07-2018 2:19pm

Lux23 wrote: »

Interesting that you completely ignored the other statistics I shared with you. Acid throwing is a gang-related crime and it is not one that is currently linked to any particular race in London.

38% of Afro-Carribean, 32% are white, 6% are Asian, 2% are dark European, 1% and another 1% are Chinese/Thai etc. So the group you're trying to blame are one of the smallest group of perpetrators.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/5d38c003-c54a-4513-a369-f9eae0d52f91

Yes it's certainly 'spread' to the Afro-Carribean gangs in more recent years, thanks to the Torys cuts on policing.

But that report (from the lefty BBC) looses all credibility at the end of the article - by directly associating this new phonenomon back to the Victorian age (which ended 117yrs ago).

It also ignores all other social, historial, religious and cultural global context in relation to the emergence of AA's over the last decade (10yrs) in the UK.
And no mention of the epicentre, and it's surrounds, which is Newham.

Dr Harding (in the same article) says “The assailant may be wearing a mask, balaclava or moped helmet so [the victim] might not see them,”
couple this with very low conviction rates, and there is a lot of unexplaned gaps, that they've filled in for themselves in that reports.

The London Epicentres of this crime which are mainly SE Asian and Muslim. Very convenient, almost an agenda, to totally ignore this aspect.

There is also no mention of the religious contextual aspect, all the Afro/Carribean gangs can't all be assumed to be Christian.
Yemen is in Africa, so too Somalia, Algeria, Morocco, Libya etc.

Seperate, but perhaps relative? Is that recent March 2018 figures of the prison population (E&W) shows a 200%
increase of representation for non-whites at 26%. With 'crimes against the person' the largest crime factor.

More worrying, is that Muslims, 'the religion of peace' now makes up 15% of the total prison population in Eng&Wales,
- yet is only 4% of the total population?

That's an actual clear over-representation of 375%. And a 8% increae since 2002.
Again 'crimes against the person' are again the main causation for offences.

Whilst it's important not to jump to conculsions.
It's equally important to consider the cold hard facts, and also all wider contextual factors, before assuming judgement in either direction.

Lux23 · 24-07-2018 3:45pm

You have been presented with cold, hard facts and you have decided to ignore them because they don't fit your agenda.

Stephen15 · 24-07-2018 4:45pm

Lux23 wrote: »

You have been presented with cold, hard facts and you have decided to ignore them because they don't fit your agenda.

Afro-Caribbeans another group culturally enriching Britain.

Lux23 · 24-07-2018 4:51pm

Stephen15 wrote: »

Afro-Caribbeans another group culturally enriching Britain.

You sure are culturally enriching this discussion!

4068ac1elhodqr · 25-07-2018 2:07pm

This sorry event seems to have reached it's conclusion, hopefully future sentences will be increased.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5988399/Afghan-mother-three-year-old-acid-attack-boy-tracked-asylum-seeker-ex.html

razorblunt · 25-07-2018 2:25pm

The kid has been released from hospital too, which is great news.

Billy86 · 25-07-2018 2:32pm

So we're now on about the fecking Eastern European Afro-Caribbeans from South East Asia are we?

tuxy · 25-07-2018 7:43pm

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

This sorry event seems to have reached it's conclusion, hopefully future sentences will be increased.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5988399/Afghan-mother-three-year-old-acid-attack-boy-tracked-asylum-seeker-ex.html

So that's why Allah invented the veil, it's a good replant to acid.

The_Kew_Tour · 25-07-2018 8:19pm

Poor kid and poor mother.

Glad here he is put but the damage to a large degree is done. I just hope Mother realise she is not at fault and never feels guilty for this act

Dtp1979 · 25-07-2018 8:30pm

Fcuking scumbag animal bastard

Three year old injured in acid attack in UK

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