Three year old injured in acid attack in UK

xzanti

https://www.google.ie/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=4&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjwgvCNxrLcAhXNC-wKHdo5CIAQFghBMAM&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.independent.co.uk%2Fnews%2Fuk%2Fhome-news%2Fthree-year-old-boy-acid-attack-worcester-suspected-retail-park-police-a8458561.html&usg=AOvVaw2XSFnf3EFuTsgh9wU-FS-z

There's not much that shocks me these days. But this is exceptionally hideous

Why would anyone feel the need to throw acid at an innocent toddler?

And the big one smiling away there looking delighted with himself. Sick bastards!!

Scum of the Earth.

SEPT 23 1989

They appear to be hired goons

SSr0

Them CCTV snapshots are racist!!

TallGlass

Who the fúck hires someone to attack a 3 year old kid?

And also what the phek type of haircut is that yer man has, he should be locked up alone for that.

Kuva

They need to start throwing acid in the faces of anyone that does this, happening to often. Eye for an eye with this one.

Was looking at a chart listing of sexual assaults carried out by foreigners here in Ireland yesterday, getting longer every year especially from certain types. "Sorry doors closed"

WoollyRedHat

How do these people get access to these acids.. genuine question.

WoollyRedHat

Kuva wrote: »

They need to start throwing acid in the faces of anyone that does this, happening to often. Eye for an eye with this one.

Was looking at a chart listing of sexual assaults carried out by foreigners here in Ireland yesterday, getting longer every year especially from certain types. "Sorry doors closed"

How do you propose to implement that policy as a matter of interest?

backspin.

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Life sentences need to be handed out for acid attacks.

xzanti

This is a life altering injury. This child will never be the same again. His parents will never be the same again.

Definitely hand out life sentences.

Dtp1979

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

How do you propose to implement that policy as a matter of interest?

eBay. It’s far too easy tbh. Sickening

judeboy101

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

How do these people get access to these acids.. genuine question.

Schools. Caretakers and teachers have familial obligations or are poorly paid. You'd be amazed how easy it is to get any non carcinogenic chemical through school lab order.

Kuva

Kuva wrote: »

Was looking at a chart listing of sexual assaults carried out by foreigners here in Ireland yesterday, getting longer every year especially from certain types. "Sorry doors closed"

Where were you reading this?

wakka12

They probably attacked the baby to get at the parents, Id say most parents would find their child being acid attacked even more painful than it happening to themselves

demanufactured

That would be one sorry bastard if they did that to a child of mine.

Hector Bellend

They'll get a suspended sentence and be offered counselling

Kuva

Kuva wrote: »

They need to start throwing acid in the faces of anyone that does this, happening to often. Eye for an eye with this one.

Was looking at a chart listing of sexual assaults carried out by foreigners here in Ireland yesterday, getting longer every year especially from certain types. "Sorry doors closed"

Link? Genuinely curious!

4068ac1elhodqr

465 (recorded) acid attacks in London for 2017.

Bangladesh, Pakistan and India along with the UK (per capita), have the highest number in the world.
Colombia also had a high frequency, but they have a new very specific law, that carries a ‘max 50yrs’ for offenders.

Hector Bellend

Hector Bellend wrote: »

They'll get a suspended sentence and be offered counselling

:eek: I hope not! How anyone can be subhuman enough to throw acid at a defenceless 3 year old is beyone belief.


They're absolute filth, totally unfit to be anywhere near even halfway normal human beings.:mad:

Hector Bellend

Deleted User wrote: »

:eek: I hope not! How anyone can be subhuman enough to throw acid at a defenceless 3 year old is beyone belief.


They're absolute filth, totally unfit to be anywhere near even halfway normal human beings.:mad:

maybe not that bad but i get the feeling the punishment may not fit the crime

The Crowman

SSr0 wrote: »

Them CCTV snapshots are racist!!

They look white to me.

jaxxx

backspin. wrote: »

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Life sentences need to be handed out for acid attacks.

A sentence to be carried out in a room that's not high enough to stand up in, or wide enough to lie down in, living in complete darkness for the rest of their miserable life. Anything short of that is an injustice and a spit in the face to victims of acid attacks. But unforunately that'll never happen. Maybe get 10 years in jail and be out in half that. It's disgusting.

riffmongous

Acid attacks are so disgusting, there is just so much hate behind them

Iwouldinmesack

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Link? Genuinely curious!

Same. Put it up or its just made up.

JMNolan

The Crowman wrote: »

They look white to me.

I tried to find a description of the men and couldn't find one.

TheValeyard

I dont see any difference between using a gun and throwing acid on someone.

Pure scum. I hope they are all caught and never see the light of day again.

Stephen15

Import the third world get the third world

riffmongous

Murray TheDemonic TalkingSkull wrote: »

I dont see any difference between using a gun and throwing acid on someone.

Pure scum. I hope they are all caught and never see the light of day again.

To me there is quite the difference, an acid attack is about not just a physical punishment but also making sure your victim lives in physical, mental and social agony for the rest of their lives (and since it's mostly not fatal, you are also making sure that they do live which is even sicker)

backspin.

JMNolan wrote: »

I tried to find a description of the men and couldn't find one.

Read between the lines.

Franz Von Peppercorn

Worcester is 96% white British.

This attack is strange as most attacks are by much younger people and gang related. Very odd.

But yes, 20 years for the perps.

tuxy

backspin. wrote: »

Read between the lines.

Well going by this news story it seem to be mostly white males attacking muslims

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/muslim-man-acid-attack-victim-why-not-terror-attack-east-london-jameel-muhktar-resham-khan-21st-a7816331.html

Is it the same in this case? Hard to tell, it's been a hot summer so many people have tans.

4068ac1elhodqr

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Worcester is 96% white British.

This attack is strange as most attacks are by much younger people and gang related. Very odd.

But yes, 20 years for the perps.

That figure (on wiki) is from the 2001 census, which included the largest single minority group being British Pakistani.

2011 stats are 92% white British (still high and above average). With 5,000 British Pakistani, a '70% increase in the decade' from 2001-2011. No stats for 2018 are available, afaik.
// Should also mention 'traveller' classification has increased by 127%, and 'other asian' by 384%. 'White Irish' was the only drop (-17%).

Regardless, 30yrs++ for any perps. Carrying it, without just cause should also be automatic 5yr.

Timberrrrrrrr

Stephen15 wrote: »

Import the third world get the third world

Whats that supposed to mean?

Franz Von Peppercorn

tuxy wrote: »

Well going by this news story it seem to be mostly white males attacking muslims

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/muslim-man-acid-attack-victim-why-not-terror-attack-east-london-jameel-muhktar-resham-khan-21st-a7816331.html

Is it the same in this case? Hard to tell, it's been a hot summer so many people have tans.

One incident isn’t “mostly”. That said the juries out on this one given the demographics of Worcester and the ambiguity of the pictures.

YFlyer

WoollyRedHat wrote: »

How do these people get access to these acids.. genuine question.

What acid was it?

Franz Von Peppercorn

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

That figure (on wiki) is from the 2001 census, which included the largest single minority group being British Pakistani.

2011 stats are 92% white British (still high and above average). With 5,000 British Pakistani, a '70% increase in the decade' from 2001-2011. No stats for 2018 are available, afaik.
// Should also mention 'traveller' classification has increased by 127%, and 'other asian' by 384%. 'White Irish' was the only drop (-17%).

Regardless, 30yrs++ for any perps. Carrying it, without just cause should also be automatic 5yr.

Thanks. Worth editing the wiki entry if it is so wrong.

4068ac1elhodqr

Franz Von Peppercorn wrote: »

Thanks. Worth editing the wiki entry if it is so wrong.

Perhaps, googlebot showed ..ww.worcestershire.gov.uk/download/.../id/.../demographic_report_-_census_2011.pdf on 1st search.

Human Geography sure is an interesting subject. Read somewhere Romanians 413k, just overtook the Irish as the 2nd largest of foreigners in the uk. With most of the influx since 2014.

Summer wind

What a pack of evil bastards.

judeboy101

YFlyer wrote: »

What acid was it?

Probably sulphuric or nitric. HCl is not as reactive on skin, hence its wide use in schools. You can also use alkaline chemicals like NaOH or KOH but prep wise, acid is easier.

Stephen15

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Whats that supposed to mean?

High levels of acid attacks in the UK, high levels of acid attacks in the third world and there are high levels of people from the third world living in the UK so there's a direct correlation between all three. When was the last time you heard of an acid attack in Poland or Hungary which are 99% idigeneous.

Church on Tuesday

Life is cheap these days, in fact it always was really, it's just that in the modern age we are more readily exposed to it. It's been going on since the dawn of humanity.

There are some 'human beings',well if you can call them human, who are just pure evil. It has many forms too.

The child's life is effectively ruined. Hopefully these creatures will be locked away for a long time in one of the many pleasant prisons in England, I'm sure they will make some special friends there.

Timberrrrrrrr

Stephen15 wrote: »

High levels of acid attacks in the UK, high levels of acid attacks in the third world and there are high levels of people from the third world living in the UK so there's a direct correlation between all three. When was the last time you heard of an acid attack in Poland or Hungary which are 99% idigeneous.

So you can link to a report that says the majority of acid attacks in the uk are committed by people from the 3rd world i suppose?

Stephen15

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

So you can link to a report that says the majority of acid attacks in the uk are committed by people from the 3rd world i suppose?

No but it's an element of third world culture which people who are not from the third world are adopting. It was started off by the Pakistanis, then the Africans and Jamaicans caught on to it and now idigeneous British criminals are adopting it.

riffmongous

I came across these stats.. although the whole predictable way this thread has turned is very distasteful, the victims and horrificness of the crime are being written out of the discussion

In reality, just 6% of all suspects in London over the last 15 years were Asian.

For the same period (2002-16), 'White Europeans' comprised 32% of suspects, and African Caribbeans 38% of suspects. About one in five suspects remain unknown – either because they can’t be identified, or because the victim has refused to identify them.

“The figures do suggest a lower number of Asian offenders,” said Dr Tara Young, a Criminal Justice and Criminology lecturer at the University of Kent. “However, there is a growing proportion of unknowns – and we don’t know if these contain a significant number of White European perpetrators or Asian perpetrators.”

The number of Asian victims is 421 – around one fifth of the 2,196 total for the 15-year period. Almost half the victims (987) are White European, and one quarter (557) are African Caribbean.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/5d38c003-c54a-4513-a369-f9eae0d52f91

The victims of London’s violent acid attacks are overwhelmingly male. Four out of five victims in 2016 were men, according to the statistics.

From 2007 to 2011, around 50 men and 50 women were attacked each year. Since 2012, however, the number of attacks on men has increased dramatically each year, peaking at 352 in 2016.

The statistics paint an unusual picture, according to experts familiar with acid attack data around the world.

Jaf Shah is the executive director of Acid Survivors Trust International (ASTI), a charity that seeks to end acid violence.

In the 15 years since his organisation was established, he has noted a familiar pattern to acid attacks around the world that is outlined prominently on ASTI’s website: “Acid violence is a form of violence that has a disproportionate impact on women.”

“In many regions of the world, most attacks relate to gender violence,” said Shah. “These attacks are often linked to rejected sexual advances, or marriage proposals.”

“However, this does not appear to be the case in the UK.”

When it comes to suspects, men have consistently made up the majority, accounting for nearly three quarters over the whole of the last 15 years, and 77% in 2016. The proportion of female suspects has collapsed from around 20% ten years ago to just 2% last year, while the proportion of unknown suspects has doubled in the last 10 years to 20%.

This is likely to be related to a rise in moped gangs, according to Dr Simon Harding, associate professor in criminology at the University of West London.

Timberrrrrrrr

Stephen15 wrote: »

No but it's an element of third world culture which people who are not from the third world are adopting. It was started off by the Pakistanis, then the Africans and Jamaicans caught on to it and now idigeneous British criminals are adopting it.

Thats like blaming americans for any shootings because they started shooting injuns in the wild west, or the chinese because they invented gunpowder:rolleyes:

4068ac1elhodqr

Class (socio-economics) likely also is a factor in this cheap weapon.
There does seem to be a strong trend in certain areas for these attacks (in Ldn anyway):



Newham, a borough which has the second highest percentage of Muslims in Britain is the epicentre.
Whether that's relevant or internal to that area, or they are targetted from other areas is unclear, but it is highly unpleasent.

Other stats show (for full year) of 2017.
#1 - Newham - 398, and the lowest
#32 - Kensington & Chelsea - 15

skooterblue2

judeboy101 wrote: »

Schools. Caretakers and teachers have familial obligations or are poorly paid. You'd be amazed how easy it is to get any non carcinogenic chemical through school lab order.

Simplier than that. Car batteries, industrial batteries. I have trouble getting citric acid to clean the toilet bowl, chemist giving me shady looks. Farmers have acid for cleaning the milking tank and silage. Ask the right person in the pharma industry, why you would risk a secure well paying job is beyond me.

Timberrrrrrrr

Paula Rhythmic Bass wrote: »

Class (socio-economics) likely also is a factor in this cheap weapon.
There does seem to be a strong trend in certain areas for these attacks (in Ldn anyway):



Newham, a borough which has the second highest percentage of Muslims in Britain is the epicentre.
Whether that's relevant or internal to that area, or they are targetted from other areas is unclear, but it is highly unpleasent.

Other stats show (for full year) of 2017.
#1 - Newham - 398, and the lowest
#32 - Kensington & Chelsea - 15

http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/news/crime-court/newham-has-highest-rate-of-acid-attacks-in-london-figures-show-1-5349044

It also revealed that younger people are most likely to be a victim, with more than half being between the ages of 10 and 29. Victims were also found to be predominantly white European or African Carribean.

“This data suggests that acid attacks, as with knife crime, are a youth-related issue. If we are going to get serious about preventing this rise we need to tackle the root causes of these attacks.”

Last year’s incidents included an attack on a moped rider near Stratford International on the evening of July 13.

Derryck John, 17, from Croydon, last week admitted carrying out this and five other assaults in east London witin just two hours.

Its nothing to do with Muslims or imigrants, this is a (predominantly) youth thing, and is just another horrible escalation in teen gang warfare around the uk.

skooterblue2

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

http://www.newhamrecorder.co.uk/news/crime-court/newham-has-highest-rate-of-acid-attacks-in-london-figures-show-1-5349044


Its nothing to do with Muslims or imigrants, this is a (predominantly) youth thing, and is just another horrible escalation in teen gang warfare around the uk.

Muslims constitute 5% of the General population of the UK yet make up 30% of the prison population. They majority are in for sexual assault and acid attacks. Does that look proportional to you?

Timberrrrrrrr

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Muslims constitute 5% of the General population of the UK yet make up 30% of the prison population. They majority are in for sexual assault and acid attacks. Does that look proportional to you?

Well i cant comment unless you back that statement up with a link please?

Stephen15

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Well i cant comment unless you back that statement up with a link please?

Even the lefty liberals in the Huffington Post will admit it.

https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/lammy-review-muslim-prisoners_uk_59afcaa0e4b0b5e531022f26

dublinman1990

What a horrible outcome for the innocent 3 year old child & his family. I don't know how any person with such a sick mind would justify doing an acid attack on an innocent person especially if it is someone is as young as a 3 year old boy. The implications for the young fella being the victim of this attack are endless & profoundly upsetting. He did not deserve to have this done to him because it wasn't his fault.

The perps who will get caught doing this attack deserve all of the **** that will go towards them from the public with preferably a hefty 100 year sentence for each of them involved from the courts. This ideally should teach them that a disgusting attack like this should be made preventable with new laws coming in to prevent acid attacks in the UK ASAP. New punishments like hefty sentences of 50 years minimum should be brought in to deter offenders from doing the crime ever again to any innocent person. That and increased heavy fines should do the trick to stop this disgusting crime altogether.