This weeks Classic foreign bargains that I'm not buying

BonnieSituation · 22-04-2020 11:36pm

RobAMerc wrote: »

colour = NO (big no)

There's a Polizei buzz off it.

Love it.

BorneTobyWilde · 22-04-2020 11:44pm

I always like that colour on a w124 as it's and old colour, a vintage colour.

BonnieSituation · 22-04-2020 11:45pm

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I always like that colour on a w124 as it's and old colour, a vintage colour.

Exactly.

RobAMerc · 23-04-2020 12:05am

BonnieSituation wrote: »

There's a Polizei buzz off it.

Love it.

nope

RobAMerc · 23-04-2020 12:08am

also, whats with the strange ribbing on the fog lamps ?

BonnieSituation · 23-04-2020 12:08am

Sploosh

BonnieSituation · 23-04-2020 12:10am

RobAMerc wrote: »

also, whats with the strange ribbing on the fog lamps ?

For your pleasure!

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Would that etching change the focus of the lights? Perhaps they got LHD headlamps?

How is the focus determined on them?

w124man · 23-04-2020 8:18pm

RobAMerc wrote: »

also, whats with the strange ribbing on the fog lamps ?

Its a trick of the light. They are fog lights and all w/s/c124 cars have them there except the E500/500E. That car has been doing the rounds for quite a while which is a pity because its a lovely car. Its on a commission sale.

RobAMerc · 23-04-2020 9:07pm

w124man wrote: »

Its a trick of the light. They are fog lights and all w/s/c124 cars have them there except the E500/500E. That car has been doing the rounds for quite a while which is a pity because its a lovely car. Its on a commission sale.

I've looked from every angle going at my own one - and I've never seen them look like that !

RobAMerc · 24-04-2020 10:57am

this is on facebook @ 3750

Looks very tidy - but she is a 1991 ( I have not checked the MOT history in fairness, only going on pics )

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not2be · 24-04-2020 11:41am

RobAMerc wrote: »

this is on facebook @ 3750

Looks very tidy - but she is a 1991 ( I have not checked the MOT history in fairness, only going on pics )

It says it’s sept 1991 for first registration, so probably would be €1200/1300 vrt on top?

Not like you could put it into storage up north either as God knows what fees in terms of duty/vrt charges with Brexit in September 2021....

RobAMerc · 24-04-2020 1:30pm

not2be wrote: »

It says it’s sept 1991 for first registration, so probably would be €1200/1300 vrt on top?

Not like you could put it into storage up north either as God knows what fees in terms of duty/vrt charges with Brexit in September 2021....

Agreed - I think it makes sense, I think there may be a race to get as many cars across the sea as possible before 2021 ( although someone has pointed out, the EU taxes will have already been paid )

not2be · 24-04-2020 1:41pm

RobAMerc wrote: »

Agreed - I think it makes sense, I think there may be a race to get as many cars across the sea as possible before 2021 ( although someone has pointed out, the EU taxes will have already been paid )

not sure if it would make sense to go to London and buy it, when you factor in everything.... you could just buy a vintage w126 500SEL over here with lower mileage thats vrt & nct'd already for €6750/7,000 approx

update: i just checked and the 500SEL i was thinking of is no longer on donedeal

w124man · 24-04-2020 8:21pm

There's a good MOT history to go with that 300SE. Good spec too with leather, cruise and aircon. Oil leak in the front isn't great news though. Could be a nice car

RobAMerc · 24-04-2020 10:38pm

w124man wrote: »

Its a trick of the light. They are fog lights and all w/s/c124 cars have them there except the E500/500E. That car has been doing the rounds for quite a while which is a pity because its a lovely car. Its on a commission sale.

You are totally right on this one, there is one angle where I look at it and the shape of the reflectors cant be seen - and it looks a bit like this one.

RobAMerc · 25-04-2020 8:05am

people seem to be going a bit nuts for the 19 16v at the moment - but this is probably a bit more
special given it was the first performance TD I think

BorneTobyWilde · 25-04-2020 4:57pm

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/202004259060470?onesearchad=New&onesearchad=Nearly%20New&onesearchad=Used&sort=relevance&radius=1500&postcode=gl52rs&year-from=1980&advertising-location=at_cars&year-to=1990&page=7

Nice starter classic. Is that colour a legit colour scheme

BonnieSituation · 25-04-2020 5:47pm

Why are these so cheap in the UK? Is there a glut of them?

I love that colour.

BorneTobyWilde · 25-04-2020 7:09pm

I like that colour too, not sure they got the darker brown correct though when respraying.

Duke O Smiley · 25-04-2020 7:16pm

I like the colour too, but I think that actually stands against the car in the wider market. Not many people want to spend two grand on a car that will be mistaken for an old million mile German taxi.

w124man · 25-04-2020 9:15pm

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Nice starter classic. Is that colour a legit colour scheme

The colour is but the car has been 'modernized' by fitting the later sill and door trims from 1989 onwards

Duke O Smiley · 25-04-2020 9:31pm

RobAMerc wrote: »

people seem to be going a bit nuts for the 19 16v at the moment - but this is probably a bit more
special given it was the first performance TD I think

Had this conversation with someone recently, and we ultimately agreed that the ZX was and will probably always be a bit neglected in wider French car circles. They're a really lovely car, and that particular example looks lovely, but I think it is a class larger and a generation later than what folks are really after (205 GTI, R5 GTT etc)

pablo128 · 25-04-2020 10:28pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Had this conversation with someone recently, and we ultimately agreed that the ZX was and will probably always be a bit neglected in wider French car circles. They're a really lovely car, and that particular example looks lovely, but I think it is a class larger and a generation later than what folks are really after (205 GTI, R5 GTT etc)

I had the pleasure of driving a few 205/309 1.9 gtis fairly hard, and they are truly a great drivers car. I'd still consider a ZX Volcane or a Xantia Activa though.

BorneTobyWilde · 26-04-2020 2:41pm

https://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/granton/cars-vans-utes/mercedes-benz-300d-1978-sedan/1243860651

Nice old diesel Merc

w124man · 26-04-2020 7:21pm

Christ on a bike! Thats a cracker

BorneTobyWilde · 28-04-2020 2:15pm

Yea for 8500 euros it would be cheap, for its condition. I guess here one could ask 15k euro.

BorneTobyWilde · 28-04-2020 2:17pm

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Subaru-svx-4wd-Auto-230-Bhp-Grand-Tourer-Very-Rare-Car-appreciating-Asset-1/223990477483?_trksid=p2485497.m4902.l9144

Subaru-svx-4wd, rare car/

11wingnut · 29-04-2020 12:02am

A ZV REG W123 merc nice only 65k miles restored https://www.bpiauctions.com/auctions/?utm_source=Mailchimp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=1964#!/itemDetails/1964/169259

JabbaTheHut · 29-04-2020 2:44am

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201607296307140

£150,000..............................................

KevRossi · 29-04-2020 9:01am

Crazy money, they've been selling for €30-60K the past few years. This one has a new TUV for 1/3 of the price. Total Lotto bucket list car for me.

https://suchen.mobile.de/fahrzeuge/details.html?id=293517991&damageUnrepaired=NO_DAMAGE_UNREPAIRED&isSearchRequest=true&makeModelVariant1.makeId=19000&makeModelVariant1.modelDescription=lotus&makeModelVariant1.modelId=20&pageNumber=1&scopeId=C&sfmr=false&fnai=prev&searchId=390a22a0-ed6b-b642-4a87-dca2be1b8a31

$_20.jpg

Duke O Smiley · 29-04-2020 9:06am

My parents are friends with a German Count who lives in Dublin, he had a proper full fat Lotus Carlton until only about 15 years ago or so. I still see him around now in the Touareg that he bought to replace the Lotus!

KevRossi · 29-04-2020 9:10am

11wingnut wrote: »

A ZV REG W123 merc nice only 65k miles restored https://www.bpiauctions.com/auctions/?utm_source=Mailchimp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=1964#!/itemDetails/1964/169259

Looks like it was reupholstered in non-MB covers. Wonder why you'd do that if you went to the trouble of a full resto? Also, the bottom of it looks like it was painted with a brush rather than resprayed. Still worth a look for £5K

KevRossi · 29-04-2020 9:22am

I had a 164 Q4 when I lived in Germany years ago, sold it and went looking for something else. I couldn't stretch to buying a Lotus Omega, as I've always had a principle of never borrowing cash to buy a car. I was willing to break to rule for that one car but my then girlfriend convinced me not to borrow cash to buy it as 'Opel are crap and unreliable' (she had a Lancia Thema at the time - WTF?).

I ended out with a W124 400E (US import) as I couldn't stretch to a 500E either.

unkel · 29-04-2020 9:45am

Maybe you should have married her

unkel · 29-04-2020 9:52am

11wingnut wrote: »

A ZV REG W123 merc nice only 65k miles restored https://www.bpiauctions.com/auctions/?utm_source=Mailchimp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=1964#!/itemDetails/1964/169259

What's the ZV reg?

11wingnut · 29-04-2020 11:10am

unkel wrote: »

What's the ZV reg?

in one pic if you look carefully i cannot make it out

welder · 29-04-2020 11:35am

11wingnut wrote: »

in one pic if you look carefully i cannot make it out

Looks like ZV42812 which comes up as a 230, last sale date march 2015.

Super looking car but its a pity about the interior, even the door cards and
centre armrest in that strange criss cross pattern, doesn't work for me !

w124man · 29-04-2020 8:16pm

KevRossi wrote: »

I ended out with a W124 400E (US import) as I couldn't stretch to a 500E either.

Nothing wrong with a 400E as a substitute to a 500E

Seweryn · 29-04-2020 8:19pm

w124man wrote: »

Nothing wrong with a 400E as a substitute to a 500E

400E is actually a better cruiser.

JabbaTheHut · 30-04-2020 1:07am

If you fancy an E23 project you can have this one on a starting bid of £8000

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/164176561629

Or, as it stands, you can have this BMW for £8000 instead

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-840-CI-SPORT-INDUVIDUAL-E31-WHITE-LOTUS-LEATHER-92K-NO-RESERVE-CLASSIC/274349501376

macplaxton · 30-04-2020 5:16am

welder wrote: »

Looks like ZV42812

That is the correct reg. (UK reg A592 JCK - no export marker). Mileage discrepancy though.

Kerry ZV series allocation (after Dec 2011), started from 42801.

unkel · 30-04-2020 1:02pm

macplaxton wrote: »

Mileage discrepancy though.

For anyone who doesn't want to look it up themselves: It had 148k miles back in 2012

And now it has just 65k miles :rolleyes: No NCT of course. With the best will in the world I can't see this car deserving the title of a bargain.

Casati · 30-04-2020 1:41pm

unkel wrote: »

For anyone who doesn't want to look it up themselves: It had 148k miles back in 2012

And now it has just 65k miles :rolleyes: No NCT of course. With the best will in the world I can't see this car deserving the title of a bargain.

Regardless of mileage, am I the only one that thinks it looks a bit rough for the money?

RobAMerc · 30-04-2020 2:12pm

11wingnut wrote: »

A ZV REG W123 merc nice only 65k miles restored https://www.bpiauctions.com/auctions/?utm_source=Mailchimp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=1964#!/itemDetails/1964/169259

Oh my word, the interior on that is just hideous ! Why would someone do that to that poor car - having said that, I was just about to redo the door cards in my MX5 in that quilted pattern black - I may have to rethink that !

outfox · 30-04-2020 2:41pm

When the skangers and chavs adopt a trend in their pimped out Golfs, you know it's time to move on. That quilted upholstery is one example. It's the same reason why cream leather is dead to me now.

w124man · 30-04-2020 9:48pm

Seweryn wrote: »

400E is actually a better cruiser.

So they say. I have not driven one back to back with a 500

11wingnut · 30-04-2020 11:09pm

I have seen some nice conversions then i see this https://auctions.synetiq.co.uk/auction/items/details/1952-riley-1500-convertible/54381

macplaxton · 01-05-2020 2:35am

unkel wrote: »

For anyone who doesn't want to look it up themselves: It had 148k miles back in 2012

And now it has just 65k miles :rolleyes: No NCT of course. With the best will in the world I can't see this car deserving the title of a bargain.

Of course it doesn't have NCT on it, It's UK registered car, in the UK, with no export marker!

(It appears to me to have started life in the UK, had a holiday in Ireland, a haircut at some point, re-registered in the UK and is being sold in the UK, for GBP

)

unkel · 01-05-2020 10:49am

Could very well be, didn't even think of that scenario! Why use a few (older) pics for the ad then with the Irish plates on though?

The haircut and the NCT site stating the vehicle has been scrapped would be major red flags for me though. The link now says the auction has ended and there were 2 bids. Surely this wasn't sold for anywhere near GBP5k, does anyone in here have access to the results?

welder · 01-05-2020 11:28am

unkel wrote: »

NCT site stating the vehicle has been scrapped

Don't put any heed in the NCT site stating scrapped, that seems to be a default position if a vehicle has never entered their testing system, i.e. never had a test.
Rather like the test itself their website isn't really a paragon of efficiency....

This weeks Classic foreign bargains that I'm not buying

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