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General Rugby Discussion II

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    #3932
    thomond2006
    Registered Users Posts: 45,433 ✭✭✭✭thomond2006


    John Hayes is a ligind. Next.


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    #3933
    b.gud
    Registered Users Posts: 4,788 ✭✭✭b.gud


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Connacht
    NT
    BU
    GN
    FV
    CC
    BA
    TM
    PA

    2 can play at this game, amended list below

    NT
    BU
    GN
    FV
    CC
    MM
    BA
    TM
    PA


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    #3934
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    b.gud wrote: »
    2 can play at this game, amended list below

    NT
    BU
    GN
    FV
    CC
    MM
    BA
    TM
    PA

    I think MM played for Ulster first, no? Unless it’s a different MM...?


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    #3935
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 40,989 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    I think MM played for Ulster first, no? Unless it’s a different MM...?

    The MM that he's thinking of ended up in zebre after connacht.

    And your missing a Maori AB in the leinster list


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    #3936
    joeguevara
    Registered Users Posts: 7,993 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    Any truth of rumors Ukster actively trying to recruit Israel Folau? :)


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    #3937
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,176 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    sydthebeat wrote:
    The MM that he's thinking of ended up in zebre after connacht.

    And your missing a Maori AB in the leinster list
    Both of those guys played in Japan. They had returned to NZ but I assume having had left NZ previously ruled them out?


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    #3938
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 40,989 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    Buer wrote: »
    Both of those guys played in Japan. They had returned to NZ but I assume having had left NZ previously ruled them out?

    Hummmm maybe.
    I thought the criteria was just leaving a NZ team to go to a Irish team.

    The above would make sense considering who's not on it


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    #3939
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,176 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    Hummmm maybe.
    I thought the criteria was just leaving a NZ team to go to a Irish team.

    The above would make sense considering who's not on it

    Lets blame Swiwi for his ambiguous guidelines:
    players who ended up in Ireland after heading elsewhere first


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    #3940
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    FFS Buer. They weren’t « my » :p guidelines they were what the lads at the Herald used when they drew up the list. It was a super rugby player whose very next career move after quitting super rugby in NZ was to join an Irish province. If they went elsewhere such as Japan first then they made the list as having headed to japan after NZ.

    As an aside since rugby turned pro, 1 in every 2 NZ players end up overseas at a rate of about 20 players/season, most popular age to leave is 28, most popular destinations England, France and Japan.


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    #3941
    sydthebeat
    Subscribers Posts: 40,989 ✭✭✭✭sydthebeat


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    It was a super rugby player whose very next career move after quitting super rugby in NZ was to join an Irish province. If they went elsewhere such as Japan first then they made the list as having headed to japan after NZ.
    .

    well then that would bring the two unmentioned back into the frame :)

    is there any others not mentioned as well i wonder?


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    #3942
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    sydthebeat wrote: »
    well then that would bring the two unmentioned back into the frame :)

    is there any others not mentioned as well i wonder?

    Quite possibly. The Herald missed Craig Clarke, who I picked out, there are inevitably others that yourself and others can remember.

    There are actually surpisingly few Kiwis who come directly Ireland, I would suggest even fewer now that the project player thing is esssentially finished and that the IRFU is, well, keen for Irish players to play for Ireland by coming through the Irish (English, Welsh :D) academies.

    At the end of the day, the irish provinces are not going to want to enter into a financial bidding war with other countries for a team full of kiwi mercenaries. I would suggest they will make well-targeted bids for a player of interest corresponding to an area of need in the provinces.

    Barring a miracle, I expect Super Rugby to become an academy competition for SANZAAR pups before they head overseas, and I expect within 20 years the ABs will be forced to select outside NZ.

    But we see.


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    #3943
    Yeah_Right
    Registered Users Posts: 5,960 ✭✭✭Yeah_Right


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    FFS Buer. They weren’t « my » :p guidelines they were what the lads at the Herald used when they drew up the list. It was a super rugby player whose very next career move after quitting super rugby in NZ was to join an Irish province. If they went elsewhere such as Japan first then they made the list as having headed to japan after NZ.

    As an aside since rugby turned pro, 1 in every 2 NZ players end up overseas at a rate of about 20 players/season, most popular age to leave is 28, most popular destinations England, France and Japan.

    Just went to have a look at that article and I discover the Herald is now charging for most of its content :mad: **** you NZ Herald!!


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    #3944
    yerrahbah
    Registered Users Posts: 1,366 ✭✭✭yerrahbah


    https://www.instagram.com/p/BxmtdBfhIlI/?utm_source=ig_embed&utm_campaign=embed_video_watch_again

    Jean De Villiers knee, not for the squeamish :eek:


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    #3945
    freak scence
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 442 ✭✭freak scence


    https://twitter.com/i/status/1131311452437061633

    crazy how ford is ahead of him in england setup


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    #3946
    [Deleted User]
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    freak scence wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/i/status/1131311452437061633

    crazy how ford is ahead of him in england setup

    Ford is a reliable pro.


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    #3947
    pickarooney
    Moderators, Arts Moderators Posts: 35,091 Mod ✭✭✭✭pickarooney


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    Hmmm. Geography 101 for you Pickarooney...

    I somehow missed NZ twice in the opening sentence


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    #3948
    Melodeon
    Registered Users Posts: 2,264 ✭✭✭Melodeon


    Item about concussion in schools rugby on Prime Time, RTE 1, right now!


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    #3949
    razorblunt
    Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Great to see Rob Horne looking well, whatever about the weight loss post playing, the muscle wastage of the right arm is shocking to see.

    https://twitter.com/christianday/status/1131907125083611137?s=21


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    #3950
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    pickarooney wrote: »
    I somehow missed NZ twice in the opening sentence

    481096.png

    You're not the first nor the last mon ami.


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    #3951
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    swiwi_ wrote: »
    pickarooney wrote: »
    I somehow missed NZ twice in the opening sentence

    481096.png

    You're not the first nor the last mon ami.

    "New Zealand: Australia's Australia."


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    #3952
    freak scence
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 442 ✭✭freak scence


    troyzer wrote: »
    The worst thing you can see about Haskell is that he's got a lot of personality and isn't afraid to show it. Some might not like him but at least he's not an automaton like most players.

    He's always been a grafter and I take him at his word that he went to the Highlanders just to experience it and money was secondary.

    https://youtu.be/hQdZpFsbAbk

    lovely guy , his boat trips with wasps are also another thing to be proud of , he ran into too many rugby posts , not a very nice person


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    #3953
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,176 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Swinging a punch at someone who is holding you in at a scrum and being on an end of season session that gets completely out of hand...

    If that's the measure for being a bad person you can take issue with half of seasoned rugby players in Ireland.


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    #3954
    Burkie1203
    Registered Users Posts: 11,128 ✭✭✭✭Burkie1203


    Buer wrote: »
    Swinging a punch at someone who is holding you in at a scrum and being on an end of season session that gets completely out of hand...

    If that's the measure for being a bad person you can take issue with half of seasoned rugby players in Ireland.

    Paul Oconnell qualifies instantly under that criteria for the Ryan Caldwell incident


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    #3955
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    A yellow card for that is eye popping. You'd never get a yellow for that now.

    How is he number 25?


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    #3956
    Exclamation Marc
    Registered Users Posts: 11,289 ✭✭✭✭Exclamation Marc


    https://twitter.com/ultimaterugby/status/1132945116455419904?s=19

    Key is the following decision making tree

    VCGD4Fp.jpg


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    #3957
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Exclamation Marc wrote: »

    Key is the following decision making tree

    VCGD4Fp.jpg

    Keeping rugby simple...


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    #3958
    swiwi_
    Registered Users Posts: 4,474 ✭✭✭swiwi_


    Argies calling up their overseas stars for the RWC. I think it's a measure of their strength in the back 3 that neither Juan Imhoff nor Santiago Cordero got chosen. Cordero in particular has had a pretty decent season for Exeter.


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    #3959
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Pocock retiring from test rugby after the world cup. He's struggling with a calf injury and isn't expected to appear for the Brumbies again.


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    #3960
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    troyzer wrote: »
    Pocock retiring from test rugby after the world cup. He's struggling with a calf injury and isn't expected to appear for the Brumbies again.

    That's very disappointing, the man could single handedly make **** of entire packs of forwards by himself. Terrific player. Feels like we've lost two world great test back rows this week.

    On the other hand a hape of trees are about to get planted.


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    #3961
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Deleted User wrote: »
    That's very disappointing, the man could single handedly make **** of entire packs of forwards by himself. Terrific player. Feels like we've lost two world great test back rows this week.

    On the other hand a hape of trees are about to get planted.

    Well he's going back to the top league. But yeah, totally agree other than that.

    One of the greatest back rowers ever to play the game and he'll probably be reduced to limping over the line in a poor world cup for the wallabies.


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