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General Rugby Discussion II

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    #3812
    Erik Shun
    Closed Accounts Posts: 534 ✭✭✭Erik Shun


    It seems Warren G has been officially appointed as coach to the Lions 2021 tour of South Africa


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    #3813
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Erik Shun wrote: »
    It seems Warren G has been officially appointed as coach to the Lions 2021 tour of South Africa

    Good stuff. He's built for it.

    I'm planning on going to that one, never been on a Lions tour before.


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    #3814
    razorblunt
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    Morgan Parra looks goosed, ankle was caught under him as he was cleared out of a ruck. Nasty.


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    #3815
    razorblunt
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    Also it seems a bit mad you can play in both the Champions and Challege Cup in one season.


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    #3816
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,607 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Also it seems a bit mad you can play in both the Champions and Challege Cup in one season.

    I don't think you can?


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    #3817
    connemara man
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    razorblunt wrote: »
    Also it seems a bit mad you can play in both the Champions and Challege Cup in one season.

    You can't


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    #3818
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    razorblunt wrote: »
    Also it seems a bit mad you can play in both the Champions and Challege Cup in one season.

    I don't think you can?

    You used to be able to during the ERC years.


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    #3819
    razorblunt
    Registered Users Posts: 17,300 ✭✭✭✭razorblunt


    Squidgy Black wrote: »
    I don't think you can?
    connemara man wrote: »
    You can't

    Someone better tell Gibbs to get Wian Liebenburg off the pitch then!


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    #3820
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,607 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    razorblunt wrote: »
    Someone better tell Gibbs to get Wian Liebenburg off the pitch then!

    Ah I thought you meant the same team playing in both.


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    #3821
    sydthebeat
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    razorblunt wrote: »
    Someone better tell Gibbs to get Wian Liebenburg off the pitch then!

    I think you can only be cup tied within the same Competition.


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    #3822
    razorblunt
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    I always presumed once you played in one that was you done.


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    #3823
    Squidgy Black
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    razorblunt wrote: »
    I always presumed once you played in one that was you done.

    Think it's a case that you can't play for another team in the same cup, but if it's a separate cup it's fine.


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    #3824
    Former Former
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    Lovely try.

    The ground was slow to fill up but that's a very respectable attendance for an all-French Challenge Cup final.


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    #3825
    Buer
    Registered Users Posts: 24,180 ✭✭✭✭Buer


    Don't know why Kay is saying brilliant kick. West had acres to aim at. No need to stick it into the try area. That's what made it impossible to ground. Just kick pass and guaranteed try.


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    #3826
    Paul Smeenus
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    Quite surprised at my own reaction - I think of myself as a fairly sanguine, philosophical kind of boozehound, but I'm genuinely feeling "slap it up ye, Jonno Gibbes".

    Also, delighted for Kayser.


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    #3827
    Erik Shun
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    A few Haskell stories around today...1 I find surprising is that when he played with the Highlanders, he was paid £10k a year...it cost him money to play there... but dif so anyway as he wanted to experience the SH game


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    #3828
    Squidgy Black
    Registered Users Posts: 21,607 ✭✭✭✭Squidgy Black


    Erik Shun wrote: »
    A few Haskell stories around today...1 I find surprising is that when he played with the Highlanders, he was paid £10k a year...it cost him money to play there... but dif so anyway as he wanted to experience the SH game

    He said on House of Rugby he was being paid less at Northampton than he was an academy player at Wasps. Took less money than he would've got if he took a contract in France again or Japan etc, as he wanted to stay in England and try compete for a national team spot again.


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    #3829
    razorblunt
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    I really admire Haskell for travelling world rugby, I don’t think it’s done enough especially by players that are out of favour as he was at the time.


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    #3830
    troyzer
    Registered Users Posts: 6,199 ✭✭✭troyzer


    The worst thing you can see about Haskell is that he's got a lot of personality and isn't afraid to show it. Some might not like him but at least he's not an automaton like most players.

    He's always been a grafter and I take him at his word that he went to the Highlanders just to experience it and money was secondary.


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    #3831
    Dog Botherer
    Registered Users Posts: 1,641 ✭✭✭Dog Botherer


    ROG to La Rochelle as backs coach confirmed, working under Jono Gibbes.

    http://ow.ly/n3am30oIHgh


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    #3832
    troyzer
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    Dog Botherer wrote: »
    ROG to La Rochelle as backs coach confirmed, working under Jono Gibbes.

    http://ow.ly/n3am30oIHgh

    One step closer......


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    #3833
    Shefwedfan
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    Dog Botherer wrote: »
    ROG to La Rochelle as backs coach confirmed, working under Jono Gibbes.

    http://ow.ly/n3am30oIHgh


    Good move for ROG.....they have plenty of money and investing in the squad


    Gibbes is a quality coach as well and will have the forwards rocking....


    Should be interesting to see what they come up with next year


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    #3834
    Boscoirl
    Registered Users Posts: 2,232 ✭✭✭Boscoirl


    Most importantly, a cracking part of the world to live in


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    #3835
    salmocab
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    I really admire what ROG seems to be doing, he’s taken some cracking jobs and is seeing first hand different setups and methods. He could probably have had some job here but seems to be holding off until he’s happy he can do it well. I’ve said before he must have his eye on Ireland via Munster.


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    #3836
    Quin_Dub
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    salmocab wrote: »
    I really admire what ROG seems to be doing, he’s taken some cracking jobs and is seeing first hand different setups and methods. He could probably have had some job here but seems to be holding off until he’s happy he can do it well. I’ve said before he must have his eye on Ireland via Munster.

    Agree completely..

    He has gone about building his coaching CV in a really strong way.

    As you say he probably could have "moved upstairs" in Munster on retirement without too much difficulty , but he went the harder (and better) path by getting out of his comfort zone and learning lots of different approaches across clubs and countries.

    What price ROG being part of the Ireland coaching ticket for the 2023 RWC?


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    #3837
    Shefwedfan
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    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Agree completely..

    He has gone about building his coaching CV in a really strong way.

    As you say he probably could have "moved upstairs" in Munster on retirement without too much difficulty , but he went the harder (and better) path by getting out of his comfort zone and learning lots of different approaches across clubs and countries.

    What price ROG being part of the Ireland coaching ticket for the 2023 RWC?


    I can't see any head coach of Ireland bringing in ROG unless the IRFU bring him in as a long term replacement


    Imagine Farrell and everytime you lose a game and ROG is a coach, cue cries from a certain fan base about giving the job to ROG....it would be a nightmare


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    #3838
    salmocab
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    Quin_Dub wrote: »
    Agree completely..

    He has gone about building his coaching CV in a really strong way.

    As you say he probably could have "moved upstairs" in Munster on retirement without too much difficulty , but he went the harder (and better) path by getting out of his comfort zone and learning lots of different approaches across clubs and countries.

    What price ROG being part of the Ireland coaching ticket for the 2023 RWC?

    I’d think he’s playing a longer game than that,I’d imagine he’s looking at Munster first and Ireland whenever the job becomes available, presumably having done at least 2 years as head coach with Munster. He’s not old anyway and can’t be in any panic if his moves so far are anything to go by.


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    #3839
    Quin_Dub
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I can't see any head coach of Ireland bringing in ROG unless the IRFU bring him in as a long term replacement


    Imagine Farrell and everytime you lose a game and ROG is a coach, cue cries from a certain fan base about giving the job to ROG....it would be a nightmare

    Fair point - Shades of Gatland and Eddie....
    salmocab wrote: »
    I’d think he’s playing a longer game than that,I’d imagine he’s looking at Munster first and Ireland whenever the job becomes available, presumably having done at least 2 years as head coach with Munster. He’s not old anyway and can’t be in any panic if his moves so far are anything to go by.

    Probably accurate.. Time is on his side for sure , and everything so far says that he's more interested in gaining the experience and skills rather then skipping steps to get to an end goal.


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    #3840
    Shefwedfan
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    It was mentioned, not sure if it was him about getting an international job too early

    You do it for a few years and then bang, what do you do? Eddie was wrote off very early in his career

    Farrell is different as he can shoot back over water and potentially work his way towards the England job

    An Irish coach the peak is managing Ireland , do that from 50-55 and then what you do at 56?

    Rog will do a lot of coaching before he takes the top job


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    #3841
    hahashake
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    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    An Irish coach the peak is managing Ireland , do that from 50-55 and then what you do at 56?

    If he is successful then get a pretty penny coaching in France? Hell, if he's good enough, he could coach almost anywhere.


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