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Anti Pike sign in Oughterard.

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    #62
    blackpearl
    Registered Users Posts: 668 ✭✭✭blackpearl


    The last thing you want on this great dry fly lake is when your fishing spent or buzzer is a load of pike anglers trolling all over the lake, its a non starter.


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    #63
    ColmEm
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭ColmEm


    I don't know why the ignorant trout anglers don't just dig a hole and fill it with water and trout. That's basically what they're aiming for.

    One side wants natural, balanced fisheries. The other wants just one type of fish in the lake - the one they fish for! Kill everything else. It's just silly. Embarrassing. Lack of knowledge. Whatever.

    And I'm not putting all trout anglers in that bracket. It's really just a small percentage of trout anglers who want that.


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    #64
    demanufactured
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    blackpearl wrote: »
    its a trout lake leave it alone no winter pike fishing and no coarse as i have said theres enough lakes around cavan for coarse fishing and pike fishing if you want coarse fishing go to them but no you want sheelin opened thats been greedy ,not going to happen.

    Do you make the rules?
    Tbh your the one that sounds greedy to me.


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    #65
    ColmEm
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭ColmEm


    why dont the so called pike anglers agree to keep the pike in a seperate lake for pike only

    That's a comment on the Oughterard Anglers page. Oughterard Anglers gave that comment the thumbs up. That's the mindset. That's what you're dealing with.


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    #66
    blackpearl
    Registered Users Posts: 668 ✭✭✭blackpearl


    Listen here i am totaly against the harming of pike been transfered from one lake to another i even took struglling pike out of gill nets years ago when the fisheries use to look at the nets once a day and let them go,now the nets are chequed every hour or so i have seen it been done and have been their when they were relocated to other lakes ,their is proper oxyen tanks in the fisheries where the pike are put waiting to be moved this is on sheelin i cant speak for corrib or mask as i dont no what goes on their.


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    #67
    blackpearl
    Registered Users Posts: 668 ✭✭✭blackpearl


    ColmEm wrote: »
    I don't know why the ignorant trout anglers don't just dig a hole and fill it with water and trout. That's basically what they're aiming for.

    One side wants natural, balanced fisheries. The other wants just one type of fish in the lake - the one they fish for! Kill everything else. It's just silly. Embarrassing. Lack of knowledge. Whatever.

    And I'm not putting all trout anglers in that bracket. It's really just a small percentage of trout anglers who want that.

    I dont agree with killling everthing else but i do agree with relocating them to other lakes once they are looked after proprley.


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    #68
    ColmEm
    Registered Users Posts: 40 ✭ColmEm


    ColmEm wrote: »
    One side wants natural, balanced fisheries. The other wants just one type of fish in the lake - the one they fish for! Kill everything else.
    blackpearl wrote: »
    I dont agree with killling everthing else but i do agree with relocating them to other lakes

    :pac:


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    #69
    jkchambers
    Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭jkchambers


    blackpearl wrote: »
    its a trout lake leave it alone no winter pike fishing and no coarse as i have said theres enough lakes around cavan for coarse fishing and pike fishing if you want coarse fishing go to them but no you want sheelin opened thats been greedy ,not going to happen.
    Well, there is no bye law forbidding winter pike and coarse fishing. Last year held a public consultation process on this subject. They received 235 replies and only 10 of the respondents, yes TEN, wanted the lake closed in Winter months.


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    #70
    twin_beacon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    blackpearl wrote: »
    its a trout lake leave it alone no winter pike fishing and no coarse as i have said theres enough lakes around cavan for coarse fishing and pike fishing if you want coarse fishing go to them but no you want sheelin opened thats been greedy ,not going to happen.

    How is being greedy, considering there are many lakes in the country that are trout only, and zero that are coarse/pike only?
    blackpearl wrote: »
    The last thing you want on this great dry fly lake is when your fishing spent or buzzer is a load of pike anglers trolling all over the lake, its a non starter.

    But whats to stop any trout angler trolling a small rapala for trout from causing you the same level of hardship?


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    #71
    demanufactured
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    twin_beacon wrote: »
    How is being greedy, considering there are many lakes in the country that are trout only, and zero that are coarse/pike only?



    But whats to stop any trout angler trolling a small rapala for trout from causing you the same level of hardship?

    And any decent pike anglers wouldn't be that ignorant.


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    #72
    blackpearl
    Registered Users Posts: 668 ✭✭✭blackpearl


    jkchambers wrote: »
    Well, there is no bye law forbidding winter pike and coarse fishing. Last year held a public consultation process on this subject. They received 235 replies and only 10 of the respondents, yes TEN, wanted the lake closed in Winter months.

    Sheelin closed from the 13 october to the end of feb for fishing thats the law .YOU can quote what ever consultation process you like, what is the problem with you 100s of pike lakes around ireland to fish but you want sheelin open in the winter months people on here about trout anglers only a few decent wild trout lakes in the country and yous want them, you pike anglers are the greedy ones, sorry not all pike anglers people like you your at it this years on fishing forums all over the place .On one evening last year on sheelin people from 29 countries from all over the world fishing the lake as i said before best dry fly lake in the world and we intend to keep it that way.It would fit you better if you put more time into water quailty in the lakes and rivers in ireland instead of blabbering on about pike control,finished with this thread have not time to waste with a one tract minded person have a lot of top class fly fishing to do on sheelin in the next couple of weeks and all true the summer .


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    #73
    demanufactured
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭demanufactured


    blackpearl wrote: »
    ,finished with this thread have not time to waste with a one tract minded person have a lot of top class fly fishing to do on sheelin in the next couple of weeks and all true the summer .

    Pot.... Kettle.... Black.

    BTW it's one tracked.


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    #74
    twin_beacon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    blackpearl wrote: »
    Sheelin closed from the 13 october to the end of feb for fishing thats the law .YOU can quote what ever consultation process you like, what is the problem with you 100s of pike lakes around ireland to fish but you want sheelin open in the winter months people on here about trout anglers only a few decent wild trout lakes in the country and yous want them, you pike anglers are the greedy ones, sorry not all pike anglers people like you your at it this years on fishing forums all over the place .On one evening last year on sheelin people from 29 countries from all over the world fishing the lake as i said before best dry fly lake in the world and we intend to keep it that way.

    Well, you were the person that brought up the topic of opening up Sheelin.
    If it was open to pike angling in the winter, what harm would it do anyway?
    blackpearl wrote: »
    It would fit you better if you put more time into water quailty in the lakes and rivers in ireland instead of blabbering on about pike control

    Thats been my point in this thread, that the money being spent on pike control should be spent on other issues, such as water quality, and the quality of the feeder streams and rivers to the 7 managed lakes.


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    #75
    jkchambers
    Registered Users Posts: 380 ✭✭jkchambers


    blackpearl wrote: »
    Sheelin closed from the 13 october to the end of feb for fishing thats the law .YOU can quote what ever consultation process you like, what is the problem with you 100s of pike lakes around ireland to fish but you want sheelin open in the winter months people on here about trout anglers only a few decent wild trout lakes in the country and yous want them, you pike anglers are the greedy ones, sorry not all pike anglers people like you your at it this years on fishing forums all over the place .On one evening last year on sheelin people from 29 countries from all over the world fishing the lake as i said before best dry fly lake in the world and we intend to keep it that way.It would fit you better if you put more time into water quailty in the lakes and rivers in ireland instead of blabbering on about pike control,finished with this thread have not time to waste with a one tract minded person have a lot of top class fly fishing to do on sheelin in the next couple of weeks and all true the summer .
    Actually its NOT the law. There is NO bye law closing the lake from 13th October. I know that the Shannon Regional Board had a sign up but where is the law to back it up ??? THERE IS NONE and the Shannon Regional Fisheries Board ceased to exist in June 2010 after which Inland Fisheries Ireland took over


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    #76
    Lewis_Benson
    Registered Users Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    I see the oughterard cavemen are at it again.
    Their facebook page showing a picture of lots of dead pike from one of their killing sprees.


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    #77
    gumbo1
    Registered Users Posts: 681 ✭✭✭gumbo1


    Lewis_Benson wrote: »
    I see the oughterard cavemen are at it again.
    Their facebook page showing a picture of lots of dead pike from one of their killing sprees.

    They are knuckledraggers trying to incite anger from pike anglers but this has backfired on them as other anglers are calling them out for the behaviour, and rightly so.


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    #78
    kildare lad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    Idiots of the highest order, I don't actually have a problem with them taking out Pike from spawning streams , or from where they've been recently introduced , but they seem to blame Pike for everything . I think the future doesn't look bright for salmonoids due to pollution , global warming , industrial farming so they're going about things the wrong way by alienating a large section of the angling community .


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    #79
    jack01986
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    I don't understand these guys attitude at all.

    A friend of mine was guided on Corrib looking for big trout. They caught quite a lot of pike as well as they were trolling, the guide killed all the pike and threw them back into the lake 'cus they are eating all the trout'. They also caught a few good sized brown trout which were also knocked on the head. It doesn't make any sense to me.:rolleyes::rolleyes:


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    #80
    twin_beacon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    kildare lad wrote: »
    I think the future doesn't look bright for salmonoids due to pollution , global warming , industrial farming so they're going about things the wrong way by alienating a large section of the angling community .


    The damage is done, you can't go back to the TDs and the general public and say we were wrong, these are the actual reasons trout are being wiped out. These people are directly to blame for the decline of the western loughs.



    jack01986 wrote: »
    I don't understand these guys attitude at all.

    A friend of mine was guided on Corrib looking for big trout. They caught quite a lot of pike as well as they were trolling, the guide killed all the pike and threw them back into the lake 'cus they are eating all the trout'. They also caught a few good sized brown trout which were also knocked on the head. It doesn't make any sense to me.rolleyes.pngrolleyes.png


    Do you know who the guide was by any chance? There are some very good guides on Corrib, I can PM them over to you. One in particular is probably fully booked up for 2020 at this stage!


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    #81
    jack01986
    Registered Users Posts: 863 ✭✭✭jack01986


    twin_beacon wrote: »
    Do you know who the guide was by any chance? There are some very good guides on Corrib, I can PM them over to you. One in particular is probably fully booked up for 2020 at this stage!

    I've no doubt there are some great guides out there. I don't have this particular one's name. I'd have thought it would be in his interest to keep them alive. Keep his business going outside of the trout season.


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    #82
    kildare lad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    jack01986 wrote: »
    I don't understand these guys attitude at all.

    A friend of mine was guided on Corrib looking for big trout. They caught quite a lot of pike as well as they were trolling, the guide killed all the pike and threw them back into the lake 'cus they are eating all the trout'. They also caught a few good sized brown trout which were also knocked on the head. It doesn't make any sense to me.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Doesn't surprise me, I actually seen a pic of a dead ferox about 14lb and when people were complaining of why he killed it, he reply " it's no harm to kill a few ferox, sure they eat a good few trout" you couldn't make it up how backwards some of them are.


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    #83
    kildare lad
    Registered Users Posts: 2,010 ✭✭✭kildare lad


    twin_beacon wrote: »
    The damage is done, you can't go back to the TDs and the general public and say we were wrong, these are the actual reasons trout are being wiped out. These people are directly to blame for the decline of the western loughs.

    One of them claimed on fishbook, that anglers only killed 3000 trout while Pike killed 250,000 every year on corrib. They said it ok to kill trout you caught because if you threw it back in, a Pike would kill it anyway ...lol


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    #84
    jack01986
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    #85
    Blueshoe
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    kildare lad wrote: »
    One of them claimed on fishbook, that anglers only killed 3000 trout while Pike killed 250,000 every year on corrib. They said it ok to kill trout you caught because if you threw it back in, a Pike would kill it anyway ...lol

    I might know a group who will sort out the pike "problem" for them. Give them a month and corrib will be pike free


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    #86
    twin_beacon
    Registered Users Posts: 1,240 ✭✭✭twin_beacon


    kildare lad wrote: »
    One of them claimed on fishbook, that anglers only killed 3000 trout while Pike killed 250,000 every year on corrib. They said it ok to kill trout you caught because if you threw it back in, a Pike would kill it anyway ...lol


    Was it Peter FitzGerald from Anglo Irish Bank that came up with those figures?


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    #87
    Lewis_Benson
    Registered Users Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    jack01986 wrote: »
    I don't understand these guys attitude at all.

    A friend of mine was guided on Corrib looking for big trout. They caught quite a lot of pike as well as they were trolling, the guide killed all the pike and threw them back into the lake 'cus they are eating all the trout'. They also caught a few good sized brown trout which were also knocked on the head. It doesn't make any sense to me.:rolleyes::rolleyes:

    Who was the "guide"?


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    #88
    jack01986
    Registered Users Posts: 863 ✭✭✭jack01986


    Lewis_Benson wrote: »
    Who was the "guide"?

    I don't know the guides name.


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    #89
    Lewis_Benson
    Registered Users Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    jack01986 wrote: »
    I don't know the guides name.

    No worries.
    What a moron.


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    #90
    Eph1958
    Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭Eph1958


    Lewis_Benson wrote: »
    I see the oughterard cavemen are at it again.
    Their facebook page showing a picture of lots of dead pike from one of their killing sprees.


    Isn't this illegal nowadays?


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    #91
    Lewis_Benson
    Registered Users Posts: 1,887 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson


    Eph1958 wrote: »
    Isn't this illegal nowadays?

    Isn't what illegal?


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