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Summer 2019 - General Discussion

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  • #2552
    ZX7R
    Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    This summer really has a feel of the eighty's similar to what I grew up with


  • #2553
    Slashermcguirk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    Donegal Storm wrote: »
    You have an odd obsession with playing down the UK's climate and playing up Paris and Dublin, almost every one of your posts has some reference to one of the three :pac:


    Back here, dark and windy as always though feeling warm so can't complain too much, think we've been getting the best of the weather up here this week

    Definitely wouldn’t play up Ireland / Dublin climate! I have mentioned Dublin being a dry city which is statistically true but I certainly never claim Dublin to have a good climate.

    In terms of downplaying UK climate the reality is their climate is also pretty woeful with the exception of the very south east. This week is an exceptional event. It’s called living in northwest Europe


  • #2554
    acequion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭acequion


    A poor enough day in Tralee. Rainy all morning and though it dried up in the afternoon, all we got then was mainly cloud and loads of wind. The only thing going for it is that it's fairly warm. Disappointing enough.


  • #2555
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,966 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    7 0r 8 people isn't a lot but I think it's a pity to be obsessed with mother Englands weather
    Enjoy our own is my motto

    You can post on netweather you know about Irish weather you know which is what I do,rarely


    So is it not possible to be interested in both, or you know weather extremes, particularly something happening close by. Also it seems ok for you to post about Irish weather on a UK forum, yet you object to people discussing English weather here.


  • #2556
    youreadthat
    Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭youreadthat


    Slashermcguirk wrote: »
    I am surprised they are as high as 38 to be honest, north west Europe gets pretty poor weather to the main extent. Really you need to be on the continent landmass to get reliable warm summers each year. Only exception maybe is Belgium, Holland and northern France that are also not that warm (this week an exception of course). Really you can draw a line from Paris and Berlin and south of that and they always seem on a different level in terms of heat vs anything in UK and Ireland.

    Average Summer in Sothern England, especially East and Southeast would be considered 8/10 summer in Ireland.


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  • #2557
    nacho libre
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,966 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    Slashermcguirk wrote: »

    In terms of downplaying UK climate the reality is their climate is also pretty woeful with the exception of the very south east. This week is an exceptional event. It’s called living in northwest Europe

    Places like Cumbria I would imagine gets rainfall amounts on par with the west of Ireland. The South East of England, as you say, seems to have its own distinct climate


  • #2558
    Mortelaro
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    So the Irish can post about Irish weather on a UK forum, but you crib about the a couple of posters mentioning the UK weather on here? Don't start going all isolationist on us now Mortelaro. ;)

    The weather in the UK is of interest at the moment, that is all.
    Not isolationist at all,just not feigning at it and broadly disinterested or relatively so
    More interested in the weather here like most people rather than out foreign
    In fact that's the attitude on UK fora too mostly,Imby mostly rather than foeignphile
    Anyway just dropped my opinion into the discussion
    It is my opinion, it may offend some but it's not meant to,no more than say any poster here getting excited or looking forward to a huge storm or something coming in might offend those affected adversely by it Etc


  • #2559
    Slashermcguirk
    Registered Users Posts: 1,996 ✭✭✭Slashermcguirk


    youreadthat wrote: »
    Average Summer in Sothern England, especially East and Southeast would be considered 8/10 summer in Ireland.

    I have close friends who have lived near Cornwall (southern England) for nearly 20 years and say the summers are anything but sunny and warm most days. I would agree regarding south east though over towards Kent. That however is a very small part of the overall UK.

    What I always find odd is how people so often talk about the UK having much better weather than us. South east of England absolutely they do but outside of that (is. Most of England, all of wales and Scotland have a very similar climate to us).


  • #2560
    Tigerandahalf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,816 ✭✭✭Tigerandahalf


    Any indication of a forecast for the next 2 weeks?
    Anything settled or will westerlies dominate?


  • #2561
    Assetbacked
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,969 ✭✭✭Assetbacked


    nacho libre wrote: »
    Places like Cumbria I would imagine gets rainfall amounts on par with the west of Ireland. The South East of England, as you say, seems to have its own distinct climate

    London barely gets rain and the temperature struggles to go below 15, even in winter. Yet the people there seem to think they get the typical dreary British weather.


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  • #2562
    MidMan25
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,027 ✭✭✭MidMan25


    Another crap day in Cork, the sun hasn't been seen in days.


  • #2563
    compsys
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭compsys


    Fast Twitch wrote: »
    It's kinda scary at this stage. But apart from the heatwaves we had record low temps and frost in central Europe around 10th July! So at both ends of the spectrum.

    What annoys me is no mention of the cold in the mainstream media. That's equally bizarre. I suppose somewhere having an hour of air frost in July isn't as newsworthy as the record breaking heat. But they should present the full picture.

    Get a grip for God’s sake and get to know the difference between weather and climate.

    June was the warmest month. EVER RECORDED globally. Fact.

    Frankly I couldn’t care less if a few nights were colder than average somewhere in Europe for a day or two.


  • #2564
    Akrasia
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,599 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Watched a bit of the UK Met live stream earlier and it was really just about how 'climate change' is causing more of these heatwaves, fair enough, but are the equally as large negative anomalies that are forecast to move down into NE Europe next week a result of the same? Or is this more about opportunism?
    Yes, Arctic amplification is causing a breakdown in the barrier between cold arctic weather systems and more temperate and tropical weather.


  • #2565
    Chris_5339762
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,963 ✭✭✭Chris_5339762


    Day four without sun in Cork.


  • #2566
    Monkeynut
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 590 ✭✭✭Monkeynut


    Chris_5339762 wrote: »
    Day four without sun in Cork.

    We had great weather in dublin.

    main-qimg-c972b1f09ae728f5534bc8e3a4eb3993.jpg


  • #2567
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    What a rotten evening in cork city. Was heavy drizzle a while ago and it's coming and going. Rotten


  • #2568
    acequion
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,913 ✭✭✭acequion


    compsys wrote: »
    Get a grip for God’s sake and get to know the difference between weather and climate.

    June was the warmest month. EVER RECORDED globally. Fact.

    Frankly I couldn’t care less if a few nights were colder than average somewhere in Europe for a day or two.

    Do you really think your tone and attitude are helpful? If I were that poster I certainly wouldn't appreciate it!

    And what's with the shouty capitals? Throwing your toys out of the pram?? It has already been pointed out to you that your highest temperatures ever recorded all took place over a few days at the end of June, while the first three weeks were below average. Not disputing that records were broken but screaming stuff like June being the warmest month EVER is more like media sensationalist click bait.


  • #2569
    compsys
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭compsys


    flazio wrote: »
    I was surprised to see that the highest ever recorded temperature in the United Kingdom is 38.5° C. I would have thought they would have had a touch of 40° sometime in their history.

    The fact that you think the UK climate is warm enough to make 40 degrees somewhat achievable speaks to the issues around climate change IMO.

    Yes, it seems like London regularly breaches 30 degrees and higher each summer these days, meaning the odd 40 degree temp should have been reached at least once or twice before, but the average July max is 23 degrees there, and up until 2000 it would have been just 22 degrees. So you’re asking for temps 18 degrees above average! That’s like asking for 25/26 degrees in winter.

    The day anywhere in the UK gets to 40 degrees is the day we really need to start worrying.


  • #2570
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    compsys wrote: »
    Get a grip for God’s sake and get to know the difference between weather and climate.

    June was the warmest month. EVER RECORDED globally. Fact.

    Frankly I couldn’t care less if a few nights were colder than average somewhere in Europe for a day or two.

    Which June are you talking about, certainly not this years? June this year was freezing for the most part, first week of June had daily high's of 8 and 9C in Leinster, we had fire's and heating on all the way up to the 'heatwave' failure on the 3rd week. Once that had passed the last week of June was averagely mild, so June ended being a generally cold month. It was up there with 2012 for misery, wet but felt colder than 2012, at least on the east coast. July so far has been a massive improvement in temperatures but offering nothing exceptional at the same time.


  • #2571
    compsys
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭compsys


    acequion wrote: »
    Do you really think your tone and attitude are helpful? If I were that poster I certainly wouldn't appreciate it!

    And what's with the shouty capitals? Throwing your toys out of the pram?? It has already been pointed out to you that your highest temperatures ever recorded all took place over a few days at the end of June, while the first three weeks were below average. Not disputing that records were broken but screaming stuff like June being the warmest month EVER is more like media sensationalist click bait.

    I couldn’t care what the poster thinks tbh.

    By the way June WAS the warmest month ever globally. This is a FACT. So it is NOT being sensationalist or click bait. Do you want me to post the links again?

    And yes I purposely used caps as you seem to be missing the point.

    The first three weeks of June were below average in Ireland. Ireland doesn’t account for the entire globe. There’ll always be places cooler than normal.

    To suggest that there’s some climate change or media conspiracy going on because one or two cities had cool temps for a day or two in June (while the month itself was record breaking) is frankly ridiculous.


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  • #2572
    compsys
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭compsys


    Gonzo wrote: »
    Which June are you talking about, certainly not this years? June this year was freezing for the most part, first week of June had daily high's of 8 and 9C in Leinster, we had fire's and heating on all the way up to the 'heatwave' failure on the 3rd week. Once that had passed the last week of June was averagely mild, so June ended being a generally cold month. It was up there with 2012 for misery, wet but felt colder than 2012, at least on the east coast. July so far has been a massive improvement in temperatures but offering nothing exceptional at the same time.

    I’m talking about globally.

    Agreed that this June in Ireland was miserable. I never said it was good here.

    My post clearly says globally.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/07/hottest-june-earth-heading-warmest-month-190717110804704.html


  • #2573
    Gonzo
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 16,966 Mod ✭✭✭✭Gonzo


    compsys wrote: »
    I’m talking about globally. June in Ireland was miserable. I never said it was good here.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2019/07/hottest-june-earth-heading-warmest-month-190717110804704.html

    ahh, other areas of the world did great in June but I was just on about Ireland, a June most of us would rather forget! Thankfully July has brought on a feeling of summer for the most part.


  • #2574
    Oneiric 3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    What I wouldn't give for a cool, crispy, frosty night right now. Sick to the core of my soul of these relentlessly humid and warm nights.

    New Moon



  • #2575
    Fast Twitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Fast Twitch


    compsys wrote: »
    Get a grip for God’s sake and get to know the difference between weather and climate.

    June was the warmest month. EVER RECORDED globally. Fact.

    Frankly I couldn’t care less if a few nights were colder than average somewhere in Europe for a day or two.

    I know the difference. I'd calm down and not lose the rag. Not too many care less what you think about a few cold nights. I'm pointing out they broke records too.

    Just very interesting weather all round.


  • #2576
    compsys
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭compsys


    Gonzo wrote: »
    ahh, other areas of the world did great in June but I was just on about Ireland, a June most of us would rather forget! Thankfully July has brought on a feeling of summer for the most part.

    Yes. July has been far better thank god.

    But despite the feeling of warmth, it’s by no means record breaking here in Ireland as you say.

    But again globally it does look like it could be another record breaking month.

    Just goes to show you how we can end up with the short straw here!


  • #2577
    Fast Twitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Fast Twitch


    compsys wrote: »
    Get a grip for God’s sake and get to know the difference between weather and climate.

    June was the warmest month. EVER RECORDED globally. Fact.

    Frankly I couldn’t care less if a few nights were colder than average somewhere in Europe for a day or two.

    Actually what a belligerent, know it all post. Show a wee bit of decorum in future. I'm only on here a few weeks but this isn't the first time you've been overly aggressive.

    I didn't deny climate change, and even if I did it wouldn't merit that response. Can I not point out the remarkabilty of countries breaking cold and hot records in the one month.

    You're not MT Cranium, Sryan, Nacho Libre, Meteorite, Villain or the excellent posters I've followed here for years who are constants on this site.

    So in short I won't be taking any crap from someone with pent up anger like you.


  • #2578
    Oneiric 3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    acequion wrote: »
    Do you really think your tone and attitude are helpful? If I were that poster I certainly wouldn't appreciate it!
    It's a curiously common trait adopted by many climate advocates. They seem to get all shouty and hostile for some reason when the topic of climate change comes up.

    New Moon



  • #2579
    Meteorite58
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 12,073 Mod ✭✭✭✭Meteorite58


    Mod Note: Posters need to remember the Forum Charter please and refrain from personal attacks.


    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056531690


    1. Please refrain from direct personal attacks on any person whether they are members of boards.ie or not.

    2. Everyone is entitled to post and has equal rights whether they are weather experts or complete newbies.

    3. If you wish you to challenge someone's views (on the topic of weather) then please question the post, do not just attack poster.


  • #2580
    Gael23
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,123 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Why are we not getting the sunshine that England are having?


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  • #2581
    compsys
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭compsys


    Fast Twitch wrote: »
    Actually what a belligerent, know it all post. Show a wee bit of decorum in future. I'm only on here a few weeks but this isn't the first time you've been overly aggressive.

    I didn't deny climate change, and even if I did it wouldn't merit that response. Can I not point out the remarkabilty of countries breaking cold and hot records in the one month.

    You're not MT Cranium, Sryan, Nacho Libre, Meteorite, Villain or the excellent posters I've followed here for years who are constants on this site.

    So in short I won't be taking any crap from someone with pent up anger like you.

    A know it all post?

    I didn’t claim to know anything weather wise.

    I’ve merely restated what dozens of leading scientists and news organizations all over the world have said.

    And again I’ll restate that to accuse people and the media of being “sensationalist” for highlighting and reporting on numerous record breaking temps is utterly bizarre in my opinion.

    By the way every winter snow and low temperatures get lots of media attention too. So to claim there’s an anti cold agenda going on is wrong I think.


  • #2582
    Danno
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    compsys wrote: »
    Get a grip for God’s sake and get to know the difference between weather and climate.

    So, a few days cold spell = weather, but a hot spell = climate disaster. Gotcha.
    compsys wrote: »
    June was the warmest month. EVER RECORDED globally. Fact.

    Total BS and utter hyperbole. There is no way every climate station's data has been collected, collated and QC'd yet. That process takes months and months. If you're saying that satellite data trumps Stevensons Screens data then you need you need your head checked.
    compsys wrote: »
    Frankly I couldn’t care less if a few nights were colder than average somewhere in Europe for a day or two.

    Really nailing your flag to the mast now. "I couldn't care less about anything that questions my belief". Gotcha.


  • #2583
    Graces7
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    A quiet, dim-dark morning; gone are the weeks of an early walk at 4 am. The year is closing in, and all is as it should be.

    woken at some stage last night by crashing thunder. No idea what time but it was LOUD and lasted quite a while. Deluge as a counterpoint. now massive cloudscapes as light slowly encroaches..

    West Mayo offshore


  • #2584
    Oneiric 3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    compsys wrote: »
    A know it all post?
    And again I’ll restate that to accuse people and the media of being “sensationalist” for highlighting and reporting on numerous record breaking temps is utterly bizarre in my opinion.
    Whatever about listening to those who have some sort of clue what about they are talking about, if you think 'the media' is a quality source of information, then you are incredibly, incredibly naive. News orgs thrive on sensationalism - it's what brings in the cash.

    New Moon



  • #2585
    Fast Twitch
    Closed Accounts Posts: 182 ✭✭Fast Twitch


    Danno wrote: »
    So, a few days cold spell = weather, but a hot spell = climate disaster. Gotcha.



    Total BS and utter hyperbole. There is no way every climate station's data has been collected, collated and QC'd yet. That process takes months and months. If you're saying that satellite data trumps Stevensons Screens data then you need you need your head checked.



    Really nailing your flag to the mast now. "I couldn't care less about anything that questions my belief". Gotcha.

    I was just about to post but your post sums up everything i wanted to say. Thank you Sir.


  • #2586
    km79
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,254 ✭✭✭✭km79


    So........how about that Summer 2019 weather eh!!!!!!
    2 pages of bickering
    Dull start to the day . Cloudy


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  • #2587
    Seanachai
    Registered Users Posts: 2,544 ✭✭✭Seanachai


    km79 wrote: »
    So........how about that Summer 2019 weather eh!!!!!!
    2 pages of bickering
    Dull start to the day . Cloudy



  • #2588
    Donegal Storm
    Registered Users Posts: 2,023 ✭✭✭Donegal Storm


    Dark and drizzly in Letterkenny, would agree with that poster who's found this to be one of the dullest summers in memory. Maybe stats don't quite back it up but anecdotally I've found it to be incredibly grey and lacking in sunshine even on the better days


  • #2589
    compsys
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭compsys


    Danno wrote: »
    So, a few days cold spell = weather, but a hot spell = climate disaster. Gotcha.



    Total BS and utter hyperbole. There is no way every climate station's data has been collected, collated and QC'd yet. That process takes months and months. If you're saying that satellite data trumps Stevensons Screens data then you need you need your head checked.


    Really nailing your flag to the mast now. "I couldn't care less about anything that questions my belief". Gotcha.

    What point are you trying to make so I'm clear?

    Are you saying there's a 'conspiracy' that the earth is warming and that the media and climate scientists are lying about June being exceptionally warm?

    You seem to think that you know more than the experts.

    By the way I'm not denying there's been a few cold days here and there this summer.


  • #2590
    compsys
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭compsys


    Oneiric 3 wrote: »
    Whatever about listening to those who have some sort of clue what about they are talking about, if you think 'the media' is a quality source of information, then you are incredibly, incredibly naive. News orgs thrive on sensationalism - it's what brings in the cash.

    All of the articles I have linked to have been from scientists and world bodies. People who have a clue what they are talking about as you say. The media is merely reporting on these people and data.

    There are lots of reputable media organisations that can be trusted - it's not like I've based my thoughts on some random Facebook post from Russia :rolleyes:.

    Where do you get your media and weather stats from as a matter of interest?


  • #2591
    OldRio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,147 ✭✭✭OldRio


    Well, cough, cough, cough. Cloudy start in Leitrim.


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  • #2592
    Rock Lesnar
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,882 ✭✭✭✭Rock Lesnar


    Sunny and breezy again in meath


  • #2593
    klaaaz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,628 ✭✭✭klaaaz


    21C here already, inland north Dublin.


  • #2594
    SleetAndSnow
    Registered Users Posts: 4,693 ✭✭✭SleetAndSnow


    Time for some more *brilliant* news from us down south in cork, its cloudy again! Woo. Winds not as strong as yesterday and around 17 degrees again. Looks to be one or two more showers later on in the day.

    (It's not really brilliant :p )


  • #2595
    Clonmel1000
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    Cloudy and beeezy. It actually doesn’t feel that mild even today in comparison to other days either. This week has been a big disappointment considering what’s happening on the east coast not to mind Europe.


  • #2596
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,651 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    More of the same weather here.
    17C overcast but quite still, just a little breeze.

    Not complaining :)

    Very pleasant weather.


  • #2597
    sryanbruen
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,666 ✭✭✭✭sryanbruen


    Donegal Storm wrote: »
    Dark and drizzly in Letterkenny, would agree with that poster who's found this to be one of the dullest summers in memory. Maybe stats don't quite back it up but anecdotally I've found it to be incredibly grey and lacking in sunshine even on the better days

    Thought I'd look at Malin Head summer sunshine totals because it's the closest station to you that records sunshine although of course it won't be totally reflective for you because it's coastal which tend to be more sunny than inland.

    Up to this point in Summer 2019 (up to July 25th), Malin Head has seen 269.2 hrs of sun (though 1 day of missing sunshine data - 9th July). 2017 was worse with 224.7 hrs up to this point (and an atrocious total of 78.8 hrs in June 2017 - joint second dullest summer month on record there with August 1972 and only beaten by July 1979). If I remember correctly, you missed out on the very sunny four days and heatwave in mid-June 2017 which the rest of the country was enjoying. Think I remember you commenting on that too.

    Dullest summers on record at Malin Head (Summers 2011, 2012 and 2013 are not available for some reason) back to 1955.

    1978 - 321.6 hrs
    1979 - 345.8 hrs
    1988 - 359.8 hrs
    2005 - 360.0 hrs
    2016 - 361.6 hrs
    1980 - 364.5 hrs
    1984 - 365.6 hrs
    1987 - 368.4 hrs
    1961 - 376.0 hrs
    1993 - 378.1 hrs

    Data from Met Éireann.

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  • #2598
    compsys
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,120 ✭✭✭compsys


    Clonmel1000 wrote: »
    Cloudy and beeezy. It actually doesn’t feel that mild even today in comparison to other days either. This week has been a big disappointment considering what’s happening on the east coast not to mind Europe.

    Yeah I feel sorry for those further west. You’ve really borne the brunt of the bad weather in Europe, let alone Ireland.

    If it’s any consolation it’s been very pleasant, but nothing exceptional, in Dublin.


  • #2599
    Oneiric 3
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    compsys wrote: »
    Where do you get your media and weather stats from as a matter of interest?
    The Kremlin.

    New Moon



  • #2600
    lawred2
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,460 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    nice and sunny in DCC


  • #2601
    igCorcaigh
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,651 Mod ✭✭✭✭igCorcaigh


    This is just perfect weather for gingers like me.
    Balmy, but without the relentless sun.

    I do miss the dry heat of last year, but I think this summer is just fine.


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