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  • #52
    MrStuffins
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,257 ✭✭✭✭MrStuffins


    Flyingsnowball wrote: »
    I recently watched the first few ufc things. Ufc1 I, 2and 3 I suppose.

    The kickboxer wearing one glove cracked me up. My god how much it’s changed.
    Just for ****s and giggles I’d love to see the original Gracie and khabib wrestle.

    No you wouldn't.

    They did this when they brought Gracie back to fight Matt Hughes. It didn't go well for him. And as great as Matt Hughes was, his prime-self wouldn't be able to hang with the Khabibs of the world today


  • #53
    JacksonHeightsOwn
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,913 ✭✭✭JacksonHeightsOwn


    George st pierre for me.

    Fought in my opinion the best welterweights ever, literally one after an other.

    Pretty much battered them all senseless to, except for possibly Condit and Jonny "juicer" hendriks.

    Anderson silva is tainted because of his ped use.

    Ill be slightly left field here to.

    If Mcgregor had kept on fighting after the Alvarez win, then he would have been in the mix for the best ever also. Just my opinion


  • #54
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Flyingsnowball wrote: »
    I recently watched the first few ufc things. Ufc1 I, 2and 3 I suppose.

    The kickboxer wearing one glove cracked me up. My god how much it’s changed.
    Just for ****s and giggles I’d love to see the original Gracie and khabib wrestle.

    Do you mean the actually ranked boxer


  • #55
    Calltocall
    Registered Users Posts: 340 ✭✭Calltocall


    Khabib, will never be beaten.


  • #56
    Flyingsnowball
    Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    Do you mean the actually ranked boxer

    No the fella who won the first few ufc events back before weight classes and stuff. There were sumo wrestlers and Kent shamrock and the likes. Gracie would just roll around with them until he had them pinned and they couldn’t move. They would actually tap out through not being able to get up rather than being in any particular hold. They are well worth a watch just to see the difference between them and now.


  • #57
    Flyingsnowball
    Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    Calltocall wrote: »
    Khabib, will never be beaten.

    I’ve heard that before.


  • #58
    raze_them_all_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,768 ✭✭✭raze_them_all_


    Flyingsnowball wrote: »
    No the fella who won the first few ufc events back before weight classes and stuff. There were sumo wrestlers and Kent shamrock and the likes. Gracie would just roll around with them until he had them pinned and they couldn’t move. They would actually tap out through not being able to get up rather than being in any particular hold. They are well worth a watch just to see the difference between them and now.
    Yeah he was a boxer


  • #59
    Flyingsnowball
    Closed Accounts Posts: 391 ✭✭Flyingsnowball


    raze_them_all_ wrote: »
    Yeah he was a boxer

    Nah he was bjj he wore the karate clothes and never threw a punch.


  • #60
    derfderf
    Registered Users Posts: 1,588 ✭✭✭derfderf


    Mellor wrote: »
    Over the course of Tony's streak, 6 fighters have challenged for the LW belt. Melendez, RDA, Cerrone, Alvarez, Conor, Khabib. Assuming they all still challenge if Tony was champ. Then the rest from the other top LWs.
    Poirier, Gaethje, Nate, Lee, Iaquinta, Barboza, Pettis.

    That's 13 fighters, so he couldn't fight them all. But any 11 you pick out would be a significantly tougher run than. Mike Rio, Lando, Castillo.
    Okay, fair point on Tony, but it doesn't change the overall point.
    Look at Jon Jones. Became champ, defended 7 times (i think) but against killers. If he racks up more then 7 now will it be more impressive after taking the current lhw division into account?
    Number of defenses is not just about your skill, timing has a lot to do with it.


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  • #61
    Mellor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 39,603 ✭✭✭✭Mellor


    Flyingsnowball wrote: »
    Nah he was bjj he wore the karate clothes and never threw a punch.

    He's talking about the guy with one glove. You said he was a kickboxer. Raze is pointing out that he was a (ranked) boxer. He tapped out when he was mounted.

    Also the BJJ guy was wearing BJJ clothes not karate clothes.


  • #62
    yourdeadwright
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 20,814 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    Mellor wrote: »
    He's talking about the guy with one glove. You said he was a kickboxer. Raze is pointing out that he was a (ranked) boxer. He tapped out when he was mounted.

    Also the BJJ guy wasn't wearing BJJ clothes not karate clothes.

    Arthur Jimmerson


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