16th March '21 Champion Hurdle day

picachu · 10-03-2021 2:07pm

Honeysuckle all the way. Speed and stays all day. Stayed well up the hill under pressure last year.

Slattsy · 10-03-2021 2:14pm

jj mac wrote: »

They watered the ground yesterday. Not taking any chances on quick ground I'd say

They did? Where would one get this information?

Hulk Hands · 10-03-2021 2:55pm

The Tetrarch wrote: »

If I was a betting man I'd say the ground might be going against Appreciate It in the Supreme Novices.
Not a 6/4 lump on job.

I don't get where this idea has come from at all. Not just you mind, plenty of well known tipsters and bloggers have been saying it. His pedigree suggests he wants decent ground, his trainer has mentioned a few times he'd like decent ground and his most impressive run last season came on the best ground he encountered. The only thing to the contrary is his stamina might be better served on soft, but even that can be counteracted by the assurance they'll go a stronger gallop on g/s than soft

Anniepowaaa · 10-03-2021 3:21pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

I don't get where this idea has come from at all. Not just you mind, plenty of well known tipsters and bloggers have been saying it. His pedigree suggests he wants decent ground, his trainer has mentioned a few times he'd like decent ground and his most impressive run last season came on the best ground he encountered. The only thing to the contrary is his stamina might be better served on soft, but even that can be counteracted by the assurance they'll go a stronger gallop on g/s than soft

not as bad as the clowns crabbing him for getting beat by ferny hollow who is a monster and has beating the biggest certainty of the week in bob olinger for the ballymore

Labaik · 10-03-2021 5:03pm

Davey Russell tipping up Aspire Tower. Is there something were missing?

gazza1 · 10-03-2021 5:19pm

Bob Olinger is still in the Supreme at the 6 day stage.
Could HDB switch him ? Has he confirmed anything yet ?
I know he now has Ballyadam now so it's unlikely, but the only horse to beat him was Ferny Hollow and that was by 1L in his first start of the season.
The Supreme looks on paper a far easier task than the Ballymore.
I do hope he goes Ballymore though

famagusta · 10-03-2021 5:43pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

I don't get where this idea has come from at all. Not just you mind, plenty of well known tipsters and bloggers have been saying it. His pedigree suggests he wants decent ground, his trainer has mentioned a few times he'd like decent ground and his most impressive run last season came on the best ground he encountered. The only thing to the contrary is his stamina might be better served on soft, but even that can be counteracted by the assurance they'll go a stronger gallop on g/s than soft

I agree 100%, he could be better on better ground, it seems to be fashionable just to be against him!!
it looks a bad renewal of the supreme, he has beaten everything in front of him, the case can be made that he should be odds on by now?!

Coneygree · 10-03-2021 5:52pm

gazza1 wrote: »

Bob Olinger is still in the Supreme at the 6 day stage.
Could HDB switch him ? Has he confirmed anything yet ?
I know he now has Ballyadam now so it's unlikely, but the only horse to beat him was Ferny Hollow and that was by 1L in his first start of the season.
The Supreme looks on paper a far easier task than the Ballymore.
I do hope he goes Ballymore though

Ballymore 100%

NaiveMelodies · 10-03-2021 6:24pm

The Tetrarch wrote: »

If I was a betting man

Off topic

Hulk Hands · 10-03-2021 6:27pm

gazza1 wrote: »

Bob Olinger is still in the Supreme at the 6 day stage.
Could HDB switch him ? Has he confirmed anything yet ?
I know he now has Ballyadam now so it's unlikely, but the only horse to beat him was Ferny Hollow and that was by 1L in his first start of the season.
The Supreme looks on paper a far easier task than the Ballymore.
I do hope he goes Ballymore though

He'd be a slightly bigger price in the Supreme than the Ballymore. the top 3 are strongish in the ballymore but there's little depth thereafter. Plus as you mentioned, the new stablemate in the supreme

gazza1 · 10-03-2021 6:53pm

Hulk Hands wrote: »

He'd be a slightly bigger price in the Supreme than the Ballymore. the top 3 are strongish in the ballymore but there's little depth thereafter. Plus as you mentioned, the new stablemate in the supreme

Ballymore does look a 3 horse race but the Supreme has to be the worst I can remember. Only 1 horse rated 150+ in the race.
Last year there was 6.
Anyway, hopefully he goes Ballymore

JP Liz V1 · 10-03-2021 7:32pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

This thread has given me a raging erection

Get Down :P

Hulk Hands · 10-03-2021 8:14pm

gazza1 wrote: »

Ballymore does look a 3 horse race but the Supreme has to be the worst I can remember. Only 1 horse rated 150+ in the race.
Last year there was 6.
Anyway, hopefully he goes Ballymore

It doesn't look a great Supreme alright but it has an above average favorite going in and a touch more depth than the Ballymore. The options for Bob are against a 153, 148, 145 and a couple others lively ones over an inadequate trip rather than against two 150 horses in the longer race. And he'd be a bigger price. I think he's only being kept in on the tiny chance something happens to Appreciate it in the meantime

The real mccoy 91 · 12-03-2021 11:31am

Energumene taking a walk on the exchanges wont be travelling

The Mig · 12-03-2021 11:33am

Confirmed a Non Runner

hawkeyethenoo · 12-03-2021 1:32pm

if the rain stays away ballyadam wins the supreme for me.

Whiplash85 · 12-03-2021 1:33pm

Has anyone any opinion on the Boodles.

akelly02 · 12-03-2021 1:35pm

Whiplash85 wrote: »

Has anyone any opinion on the Boodles.

i do

its a ****ing headache

Whiplash85 · 12-03-2021 1:38pm

akelly02 wrote: »

i do

its a ****ing headache

Tell me about it. What about Sage Advice? very astute trainer.

akelly02 · 12-03-2021 1:50pm

Whiplash85 wrote: »

Tell me about it. What about Sage Advice? very astute trainer.

wouldnt put you off him.

cabot cliffs of skeltons holds him on form tho .

i like skeltons actually, at 10s you can have a few quid each way

sage advise is 20s so you could back them both haha!!

NaiveMelodies · 12-03-2021 4:01pm

Whiplash85 wrote: »

Has anyone any opinion on the Boodles.

Weld wins it. Price gone now though.

The Hoarse Whisperer · 12-03-2021 4:24pm

For the Boodles Homme Public could be worth a look at 16s. Was a lot bigger not so long ago though. Closely matched with Houx Gris on French form

Limestone1 · 12-03-2021 10:16pm

Nichols has been talking up Houx Gris on various previews hence price drop but you could make a case for 3/4 of the field. Its a lottery so looking for ew value. I like Druids Altar at 16s

Father Hernandez · 13-03-2021 1:31am

Whiplash85 wrote: »

Has anyone any opinion on the Boodles.

Saint Sam.

Morleystreet · 13-03-2021 10:36am

Lieutenant Rocco out.

Chesty08 · 13-03-2021 10:42am

NaiveMelodies wrote: »

Weld wins it. Price gone now though.

Can never understand this train of thought!

NaiveMelodies · 13-03-2021 11:33am

Chesty08 wrote: »

Can never understand this train of thought!

Just being bullish.
He was 16s last week. I think he has a good chance but wouldn't back at 7s.

Dr. Bre · 13-03-2021 9:24pm

Song for someone out

Gavin "shels" · 13-03-2021 11:48pm

1.20 - Appreciate It (in two AP Multiples at 11/4), 11/8 is still worth a punt imo
1.55 - Shiskin (in two of the AP Multiplies above - wouldn't be backing at 1/2 but surely a penalty kick)
2.30 - Milan Native standing out at 14/1
3.05 - Backed against Honeysuckle at DRF.... won't be backing against her here
3.40 - Concertista (in two AP Multiples at 11/4), evens is still a great price imo
4.15 - Saint Sam 5/1 (if he goes)
4.50 - Galvin 5/2

Slattsy · 14-03-2021 12:36am

Gavin "shels" wrote: »

1.20 - Appreciate It (in two AP Multiples at 11/4), 11/8 is still worth a punt imo
1.55 - Shiskin (in two of the AP Multiplies above - wouldn't be backing at 1/2 but surely a penalty kick)
2.30 - Milan Native standing out at 14/1
3.05 - Backed against Honeysuckle at DRF.... won't be backing against her here
3.40 - Concertista (in two AP Multiples at 11/4), evens is still a great price imo
4.15 - Saint Sam 5/1 (if he goes)
4.50 - Galvin 5/2

We're awfully similar....

Gavin "shels" · 14-03-2021 12:42am

Slattsy wrote: »

We're awfully similar....

Worrying...

Lets see your plans for Day One!

Coneygree · 14-03-2021 12:52am

Same here aside from Appreciate It (who I think wins but I nailed my colors to Ballyadam early) and I went for One For The Team rather than Milan Native once Escaria Ten was off the cards.

Think its the first year ever I'm starting the week off happy with my hand.

16s for Ballyadam, 16s for Honey, 8s and 6s for Concertista, 6s for Galvin and Shishkin at 5/1 to win by 2L+.

I'm not getting my hopes up, but it'll hurt if none of them come in.

Dr. Bre · 14-03-2021 10:44am

Royal Pagaille going for gold cup acccording to the racing post

The Mig · 14-03-2021 10:55am

Coneygree wrote: »

Same here aside from Appreciate It (who I think wins but I nailed my colors to Ballyadam early) and I went for One For The Team rather than Milan Native once Escaria Ten was off the cards.

Think its the first year ever I'm starting the week off happy with my hand.

16s for Ballyadam, 16s for Honey, 8s and 6s for Concertista, 6s for Galvin and Shishkin at 5/1 to win by 2L+.

I'm not getting my hopes up, but it'll hurt if none of them come in.

Oooooooohh portfolio

Coneygree · 14-03-2021 11:02am

The Mig wrote: »

Oooooooohh portfolio

Oooooh spreadsheet :pac:

Frozen Veg · 14-03-2021 11:06am

Not much out there for the punter on Tuesday aside from those who have got some great antepost prices.

Frozen Veg · 14-03-2021 11:08am

Tuesdays Declarations
1:20 pm Sky Bet Supreme Novices' Hurdle (Class 1)(Grade 1) 2m 87y

Appreciate It
Ballyadam
Blue Lord
For Pleasure
Grumpy Charley
Irascible
Metier
Soaring Glory

Disappointing that the field is so small.

Frozen Veg · 14-03-2021 11:09am

1:55 pm Sporting Life Arkle Challenge Trophy Novices' Chase (Class 1)(Grade 1) 1m 7f 199y

Allmankind
Captain Guinness
Eldorado Allen
Franco de Port
Numitor
Shishkin

Frozen Veg · 14-03-2021 11:09am

3:40 pm Close Brothers Mares' Hurdle (Class 1) (Registered as The David Nicholson Mares' Hurdle)(Grade 1) 2m 3f 200y

Black Tears
Concertista
Dame de Compagnie
Dolcita
Floressa
Great White Shark
Indefatigable
Minella Melody
My Sister Sarah
Roksana
Whitehotchillifili

Frozen Veg · 14-03-2021 11:10am

2:30 pm Ultima Handicap Chase (Class 1)(Grade 3) 3m 1f

Cepage
Aye Right
Pym
Ok Corral
Milan Native
Happygolucky
Alnadam
Delire d'Estruval
Vintage Clouds
Discordantly
Admiral's Secret
One For The Team
The Wolf
Nietzsche
Soupy Soups
Fingerontheswitch

Frozen Veg · 14-03-2021 11:10am

4:50 pm Sam Vestey National Hunt Challenge Cup Novices' Chase (Class 1)(Grade 2) 3m 5f 201y

Eden du Houx
Escaria Ten
Galvin
Lithic
Lord Royal
Machiloney
Nestor Park
Next Destination
Ofalltheginjoints
Remastered
Soldier of Love
The Mighty Don
Snow Leopardess

lemush · 14-03-2021 12:30pm

Only positive is that we wont see a five day festival any time soon, Tuesdays card is the worst in living memory.

Frozen Veg · 14-03-2021 12:33pm

lemush wrote: »

Only positive is that we wont see a five day festival any time soon, Tuesdays card is the worst in living memory.

Disappointing.

Slattsy · 14-03-2021 1:04pm

lemush wrote: »

Only positive is that we wont see a five day festival any time soon, Tuesdays card is the worst in living memory.

Back to 3 please.

shanboghted · 14-03-2021 1:35pm

Think Kevin blake's view of 5 races per day over 4 days is worth considering with 40mins between each race. Low fields are very present over the last few seasons

Motivator · 14-03-2021 1:55pm

shanboghted wrote: »

Think Kevin blake's view of 5 races per day over 4 days is worth considering with 40mins between each race. Low fields are very present over the last few seasons

That’s a terrible idea I think. We need more races and shorter gaps between them, not the opposite way around. It’s boring during at meetings when between races. Look the Festivals are a bit different and there’s more going on but 5 races per day would be an awful spectacle.

They should drop the festival back to 3 days with 8 races per day and drop 4 of the poorer races. What you take out is another argument.

lemush · 14-03-2021 2:31pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Back to 3 please.

Will never happen. The festival is so diluted now that we will end up with the Dublin Racing Festival very quickly overtaking Cheltenham in terms of quality. Nobody to blame but themselves.

Slattsy · 14-03-2021 5:48pm

lemush wrote: »

Will never happen. The festival is so diluted now that we will end up with the Dublin Racing Festival very quickly overtaking Cheltenham in terms of quality. Nobody to blame but themselves.

Brits won't travel though.

zpehtsfd · 14-03-2021 6:24pm

Tuesdays card look really good to me. All it's missing to make it great would be another decent horse in the Supreme and Energumene in the Arkle. Can't Wait!!!!

lemush · 14-03-2021 6:28pm

Slattsy wrote: »

Brits won't travel though.

With good reason, because they can't compete. For top horses facing off against each other Cheltenham is no longer the place its gonna happen. Replacing the novice handicap with a bloody mares novice sums up what they have done in terms of dilution.

16th March '21 Champion Hurdle day

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