16th March '21 Champion Hurdle day

maximo31 · 08-03-2021 12:08pm #1

Here for all your Tuesday winners.....

RivetingRoger · 08-03-2021 12:17pm

This thread has given me a raging erection

akelly02 · 08-03-2021 1:36pm

praise the lord!

The Tetrarch · 08-03-2021 1:58pm

They must add in the first race roar onto the TV coverage. It is important.
What about the eejit that throws the newspapers up in the air at every finish?

Kid Charlemagne · 08-03-2021 2:18pm

https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-table/2-2653261/United%20Kingdom/England/Gloucestershire/Cheltenham

Rain pretty much every day up to it. Soft going?

BBC not givin as much rain.

https://www.bbc.com/weather/2653261

gazza1 · 08-03-2021 2:23pm

Kid Charlemagne wrote: »

https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-table/2-2653261/United%20Kingdom/England/Gloucestershire/Cheltenham

Rain pretty much every day up to it. Soft going?

BBC not givin as much rain.

https://www.bbc.com/weather/2653261

4/11 gd/sft with PP.

The Tetrarch · 08-03-2021 2:24pm

Turftrax
Cheltenham: Old & New Good to Soft. CC: Good to Soft, Soft (in places)

maximo31 · 08-03-2021 2:36pm

Just to get the ball rolling!! :
To me it looks like it could be a good day for Fav backers.
Nothing stands out as a major danger to Appreciate It in the first. Blue Lord gets my EW money.
Think Shiskin will get the better of Enurgemene. Captain Guinness going well at the DRF when coming down looks an EW bet here.
Happygolucky hits a lot of stats in the Ultima so is my win bet. Aye Right the danger. Good race for the Brits normally.
Think Honeysuckle will maintain her unbeaten run. Think Sharjah & Abracadabras could make it an Irish 1-2-3.
Another shortie Concertista looks very strong in the Mares hurdle. Already have money on Black Tears EW here at decent prices.
Boodles often throws up a big price winner so I'll look for 2 at decent odds. Possibly Druids Altar and Glorious Zoff. Busselton backed at bigger prices.
Royale Pagaille shortening for the NHC with Galvin on the drift. Already backed Longhouse Poet so will try one more EW on the day. If Secret Reprieve runs here I will be backing. Not going to Cheltenham.

RivetingRoger · 08-03-2021 3:39pm

Kid Charlemagne wrote: »

https://www.yr.no/en/forecast/daily-table/2-2653261/United%20Kingdom/England/Gloucestershire/Cheltenham

Rain pretty much every day up to it. Soft going?

BBC not givin as much rain.

https://www.bbc.com/weather/2653261

Light rain up to Saturday with drying conditions
Windy

Should be good to soft and fresh ground

akelly02 · 08-03-2021 3:51pm

Cant wait now.

2 mates coming over for tuesday.

restrictions can piss off for one day.

Plasandrunt · 08-03-2021 5:26pm

Appreciate It and Keskonrisk at a bigger price
Shiskin
Abacadbras
Roksana
Galvin

Haven't even looked at the handicaps yet

RivetingRoger · 08-03-2021 5:33pm

Ballyadam
Shishkin
Abadacadabras
Concertista
Next Destination

Plasandrunt · 08-03-2021 5:38pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Next Destination

Nicholls says he goes for the RSA

32.30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5pyEZuW0Fc&ab_channel=OldGoldRacing

john mayo 10 · 08-03-2021 6:01pm

Ballyadam
Shishkin
Epatante
Concertista

FatRat · 08-03-2021 6:38pm

Appreciate It
Allmankind
Aye Right
Honeysuckle
Concertista
Teahupoo
Royale Pagaille

Aye right the best bet of day 1. I think some sort of record will be broken this year for winning favourites. Just can't see past most of them, unlike recent years where I have been taking most of them on.

gazza1 · 08-03-2021 7:06pm

Ballyadam ew
Shishkin
Happygolucky
Honeysuckle
Concertista
Druids Altar ew
Galvin.

Think Appreciate it will win the Supreme but wanted to take him on. Dont think the English challenge is up to much so had to be Ballyadam.

Coneygree · 08-03-2021 7:47pm

RivetingRoger wrote: »

Ballyadam
Shishkin
Abadacadabras
Concertista
Next Destination

Has Nicholls confirmed they're going 4 miler?

hawaii501 · 08-03-2021 7:54pm

The 2-time champ Buveur D'air is out and heading to Aintree instead, let's go Goshen!!

Dr. Bre · 08-03-2021 7:56pm

FatRat wrote: »

Appreciate It
Allmankind
Aye Right
Honeysuckle
Concertista
Teahupoo
Royale Pagaille

Aye right the best bet of day 1. I think some sort of record will be broken this year for winning favourites. Just can't see past most of them, unlike recent years where I have been taking most of them on.

Is pagaille not going for gold cup ?

FatRat · 08-03-2021 8:02pm

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Is pagaille not going for gold cup ?

Not accoring to my AP bet and the exchange markets. Guess we'll see Weds if he is kept in the NH. But seems the general train of thought is the better the ground the more likely he is to stay in the NH

08-03-2021 11:06pm

National Hunt Chase

Will go with Acey Milan each way here, who's available at 50s. Is also entered in the Kim Muir. Am hoping the marathon trip and goodish ground can see him make a bold bid on his 5th chase start. Has shown some ability; albeit over hurdles, when the ground was close to good, when staying on over 6fs or so shorter, in May and November of 2019 at Punchestown and Haydock. Would like to think he has a chance, should he go to post.

BurtMacklin · 08-03-2021 11:25pm

Ive been telling myself this is the year we all bash the bookies. However, I've been saying that for about 15years

I'll be doing singles and have some combos of the below. They can't all win. Or can they ðŸ˜…. Be great if it took a global pandemic for the Average Joe punter to bash the bookies.

Happygolucky
Concertista
Shiskin
Honeysuckle
Royal Pag

Brock Turnpike · 09-03-2021 11:22am

Currently planning towards...

Appreciate It on the nose, Keskonrisk e/w
Shiskin
Escaria Ten, Aso e/w
Honeysuckle on the nose, Aspire Tower e/w
Concertista
Longclaw e/w
Royale Pagalle

Slattsy · 09-03-2021 11:41am

As much as I'd love to say otherwise, it really is hard to look past most of the fav's.

There's either nothing to take them on with for win purposes (take the Supreme for an eg) or the alternative has questions to answer (Energumene). The benefits of ante post betting coming to the fore again.

maximo31 · 09-03-2021 11:43am

Reading the JO'B preview he seems to be leaning towards the Ballymore now with Keskonrisk. Not set in stone yet though.

maximo31 · 09-03-2021 11:45am

Brock Turnpike wrote: »

Currently planning towards...

Appreciate It on the nose, Keskonrisk e/w
Shiskin
Escaria Ten, Aso e/w
Honeysuckle on the nose, Aspire Tower e/w
Concertista
Longclaw e/w
Royale Pagalle

Longclaw is one I was looking into last night. Could be a nice EW bet. Just wondering did he move from Gordon after last week's news or was it moved before that?

Labaik · 09-03-2021 11:48am

maximo31 wrote: »

Reading the JO'B preview he seems to be leaning towards the Ballymore now with Keskonrisk. Not set in stone yet though.

Have him backed for the Supreme. **** it

akelly02 · 09-03-2021 12:01pm

really hope epatante stamps herself as the class act she is and wins a second champion hurdle

Labaik · 09-03-2021 1:02pm

akelly02 wrote: »

really hope epatante stamps herself as the class act she is and wins a second champion hurdle

That was an absolutely appalling Champ Hurdle she won last year.

akelly02 · 09-03-2021 1:08pm

Labaik wrote: »

That was an absolutely appalling Champ Hurdle she won last year.

and she won it easily.

dicky dunne · 09-03-2021 5:13pm

Appreciate It
Energumene
Happygolucky
Honeysuckle
Dolcita w/o
Riviere D'Etel
Longhouse Poet

Motivator · 09-03-2021 5:33pm

akelly02 wrote: »

and she won it easily.

I do think it was a poor race and yes she won it well but a few things went right for Epatante. Sharjah got a poor ride, Willie and Patrick both said it. The focus was kind of taken off that by the Stormy Ireland debacle afterwards which really drove them mad. I think Sharjah gets closer this year if the ground stays right for him. For the record I don’t think either of the first two home last year win in this year.

akelly02 · 09-03-2021 5:52pm

Motivator wrote: »

I do think it was a poor race and yes she won it well but a few things went right for Epatante. Sharjah got a poor ride, Willie and Patrick both said it. The focus was kind of taken off that by the Stormy Ireland debacle afterwards which really drove them mad. I think Sharjah gets closer this year if the ground stays right for him. For the record I don’t think either of the first two home last year win in this year.

its an interesting race. lots of pace. lots of hold up horses.

my feeling is epatante is being forgotten about over 1 bad run. she was unbelievable beating sceau royal first time out .

i know sceau royal isnt winning champion hurdles but she laughed at him.

john mayo 10 · 09-03-2021 6:11pm

It's a very interesting race.
For me its between Epatante, honeysuckle, Goshen and sharjah. Sharjah will arrive late on the scene, Goshen could destroy the field, We know honeysuckle stays 2 and a half miles which is needed to win a champion hurdle and if Epatante is right she's very dangerous. I do agree she has been forgotten about

NATLOR · 09-03-2021 6:11pm

Honeysuckle is the bulletproof horse in the CH, questions over the other leading contenders but I'm on Goshen, has the potential ( IMO) to laugh at the others and he owes me from last year!

Backstreet Moyes · 10-03-2021 8:54am

Anyone know the target for Blue Lord

Backstreet Moyes · 10-03-2021 8:58am

NATLOR wrote: »

Honeysuckle is the bulletproof horse in the CH, questions over the other leading contenders but I'm on Goshen, has the potential ( IMO) to laugh at the others and he owes me from last year!

Agreed in the fact that I think Hokeysuckle is probably the only horse in the race that doesn't have question marks over her

You would think Abracadras will be primed for the day I can see them coming to the last and Honeysuckle kicking on to win by a few lengths

Goshen is a terrible price he has ran one good race all year against a decent horse, I expect him to be pulled up

Slattsy · 10-03-2021 9:46am

Nuts102 wrote: »

Agreed in the fact that I think Hokeysuckle is probably the only horse in the race that doesn't have question marks over her

You would think Abracadras will be primed for the day I can see them coming to the last and Honeysuckle kicking on to win by a few lengths

Goshen is a terrible price he has ran one good race all year against a decent horse, I expect him to be pulled up

Agree with all of this Nuts.

I'd say Abracadras has not been fully tunes for any of his other races this year. Elliott (remember him) knows this is likely the only race he'll get decent ground and a decent pace. He might not get by Honeysuckle, but he'll be the last horse on the bridle.

Backstreet Moyes · 10-03-2021 10:32am

Slattsy wrote: »

Agree with all of this Nuts.

I'd say Abracadras has not been fully tunes for any of his other races this year. Elliott (remember him) knows this is likely the only race he'll get decent ground and a decent pace. He might not get by Honeysuckle, but he'll be the last horse on the bridle.

Agreed everything is pointing to him being primed for the race

He only narrowly went down to Shiskin who people think is a superstar

Slattsy · 10-03-2021 11:08am

Nuts102 wrote: »

Agreed everything is pointing to him being primed for the race

He only narrowly went down to Shiskin who people think is a superstar

And was left in front a long time. Tbf Shishkin didnt have the safest of passages. Last years CH was dire and if Goshen wins i'll give up the game tbh.

The Mig · 10-03-2021 11:11am

Nuts102 wrote: »

Anyone know the target for Blue Lord

Seems like it’s the Supreme but I was hoping for the County Hurdle myself

Slattsy · 10-03-2021 11:28am

They'll end up watering yet

akelly02 · 10-03-2021 11:51am

Slattsy wrote: »

They'll end up watering yet

they better not.

will we throw a few quid on good at 33s hahaha

Backstreet Moyes · 10-03-2021 1:06pm

The Mig wrote: »

Seems like it’s the Supreme but I was hoping for the County Hurdle myself

If Bob Ollinger is as good as everyone is saying, Blue Lord was only beaten a few lengths after pulling for two miles against him

In a strongly run supreme he could be an alternative if you want to take on the fav

The Mig · 10-03-2021 1:14pm

Yeah could see improvement from him with a stronger pace and better ground possibly. Only 6 lengths behind Appreciate it at the DRF

NaiveMelodies · 10-03-2021 1:22pm

Blue Lord definitely the pick for me if he doesn't go County.

The Tetrarch · 10-03-2021 1:33pm

I use windfinder.com for local forecasts.
It shows almost no rain before Cheltenham (a small amount on Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon), reasonable temperatures, and a nice breeze ... drying conditions this week.

Slattsy · 10-03-2021 1:37pm

The Tetrarch wrote: »

I use windfinder.com for local forecasts.
It shows almost no rain before Cheltenham (a small amount on Fri, Sat, Sun, Mon), reasonable temperatures, and a nice breeze ... drying conditions this week.

Yeah forecast has changed dramatically over the last few days, there was a lot of rain initially forecast.

Good to soft, good in places......

Dr. Bre · 10-03-2021 1:58pm

Goshen either wins or pulls up.

The Tetrarch · 10-03-2021 2:02pm

If I was a betting man I'd say the ground might be going against Appreciate It in the Supreme Novices.
Not a 6/4 lump on job.

jj mac · 10-03-2021 2:03pm

Slattsy wrote: »

They'll end up watering yet

They watered the ground yesterday. Not taking any chances on quick ground I'd say

16th March '21 Champion Hurdle day

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